Martin Luther was not a great reformer like the history books teach, but he was a fraud!
Here are some quotes from Luther which shows that he taught the heresy of Once Saved Always Saved:
"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"
"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."
"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."
"your sin cannot cast you into hell"
"No sin can harm me"
LUTHER WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE
Here are some quite shocking quotes from Luther which show that he was a rabid anti-Semite:
"The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows, seven times higher than ordinary thieves"
"We ought to take revenge on the Jews and kill them."
"The blind Jews are truly stupid fools"
"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."
"eject them forever from this country"
"they are nothing but thieves and robbers"
"What then shall we do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?"
"Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews"
"They are the real liars and bloodhounds"
"We are at fault for not slaying them."
"I shall give you my sincere advice: first to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them."
"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."
"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."
"Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them"
"If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs"
"If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the river Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words `I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'."
Martin Luther [ was not a Christian man, ] but, instead, he was a brutal man who persecuted the Jews unmercifully.
The word of God calls Martin Luther a liar:
1John 4:20- If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
LUTHER CONDONED THE DEATHS OF A 100,000 PEASANTS
The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther!
Here is a quote from Luther that will send chills up your spine:
"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"
Are these the words of a Christian and a great reformer? I think not! Luther was an evil man who urged the slaughter of the poor who had revolted. He told people to knock the peasants to pieces and strangle and stab them. 100,000 German peasants were horribly slaughtered in the revolt!
JOHN CALVIN WAS A MURDERER
Not only was the founder of Calvinism, John Calvin, a great deceiver, but he was also a murderer!
Here are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:
"If he (Servetus) comes (to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."
"I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty."
In Geneva, on October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and was burned slowly to death:
www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/11716.html
Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:
"Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that (they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face."
"Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt."
John Calvin [ was not a �Christian�, ] my friends, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!
How anyone can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.
A man named Sebastian Castellio wrote against what Calvin did to Servetus and he made this tremendous statement:
"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine. It is to kill a man!"
Castellio paid a great price for standing up to Calvin the tyrant. He was hounded and persecuted by John Calvin until his death.
Murderers like John Calvin and Martin Luther are not Christians:
1 John 3:15- ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
For more on Calvin see Calvinism and The Servetus Murder
In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were [ sanctioned ] by John Calvin.
Let's take a look at the two so-called great reformers of the protestant reformation:
1. Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer!
2. John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!
The Protestant Reformation was a farce!
THE PROTESTANT `REFORMERS' PERSECUTED, TORTURED AND SLAUGHTERED THE ANABAPTISTS
Link to true accounts of how the Anabaptists were tortured and murdered at the hands of the Protestants:
"The Martyrs Mirror"
www.homecomers.org/mirror/contents.htm
Do Christians persecute, torture and murder other human beings? Of course they don't! The Protestant Reformers were not Christians, but they were bloody evil men.
*** The Truth is NOT an Opinion�Why would Anyone want to Follow ANY man�s doctrine or ways instead of Christ Jesus ???�Thank you and Praise you Father for your Word�Acts 11:26 �And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. [ And the disciples were called [ Christians ] first in Antioch.��notice in God�s Word�it doesn�t say Lutheran or Calvinist or Reformer or Anabaptist or Catholic or�etc�etc�etc�etc�xo
Arch said: Wow Ella, You have shown just exactly what and who you are!
Ell says: You got that right! I ma who I ma, and yu IS who you is... two differnet people...
Arch said: I try to cite either Scripture or what source (Book or website or magazine or Whatever my source is) so as to show that I do not make up what I say or heard it from some other person..."Hear say".
Ella says: Arch, I am not obligated to prove myself toy ou or anyone else. I've told to to go in search by googling John Calvins name and READ his bio, and other information about him... Noe if you can't do that that's your problem, not mine...
Arch said: If you cannot show where you "got" your information...then I Must assume that you either "Made it up" or heard it from someone else. People say that Jesus had a child with Mary Magdalene...but when you check the "source"...you will see that it is a Gnostic Creation and therefore OUTRAGOUS! ( not to mention UnScriptural)
Ella says: As I've said, you can assume what you please. The only difference is that we have the WORD of God to know the truth about Jesus Christ. When Jesus or Paul or any of the apostles quoted scriptures they NEVER told you what passage to look for, they always said, did not the prophet Isaiah, or the prophets of old, or the porphet Joel say such and such... this means you have need to go READ for yourself what these prophets said and in search of what they said. I told you to go google his name and READ for yourself, but you got smart mouth with me.
ARCH SAID: So Ella...I am happy for you that you find all this Humorous.
Ella says: Glad you were able to laugh:laugh:
Is that what your were Taught in Seminary School...that in a debate...you do not have to cite where your information comes from?
Ella say: This is not a formal debate, therefore, it is my choice whether or not I cite my scource. Plau, I told you to go READ John Calvins bio, and google his name and go in search... that's called research for information.
Arch said: No college or Accredited School would ever ALLOW that.
Ella says: ALLOW what?... when I was in undergrad and grad school, and seminary, when we sought answers, we were told by the prof to GO RESEARCH for the information.
Arch said: So I will ask you once again...I cannot find this "source" anywhere. Would you...Please...pretty Please...with Sugar on it...Share with me (us)...your Source?
Ella says: The only reason why you can't find what you're seeking is becasue you're not looking hard enough by READING! No, matter what you say Arch you can't force my hand no more than I would like for it to be, there is much information about Calvin and Arminians, all one needs to do is go in search and READ! Oh, I forgot, the articles maybe too long for you to take time to read them, therefore, I can understand why you can't find what you're seeking...you don't care to take the time to read the whole article, you would rather Ihad it to you, so I say, NO!... plus I don't eat your sugar:ROFL:
But I will share this with everybody from an article, speaking about Benjamin Warfield : "The same writer underscores the debt which Calvin owed to Augustine. Calvin's doctrine of the Church was not his own creation, though he gave it a precision and vitality that was truly a reformation. It was his doctrine of grace that was so peculiarly his own as to be called thereafter Calvinism rather than Augustinianism. Yet as Warfield says: It was Augustine who gave us the Reformation. For the Reformation, inwardly considered, was just the ultimate triumph of Augustine's doctrine of grace over Augustine's doctrine of the Church. This doctrine of grace came from Augustine's hands in its positive outline completely formulated: sinful man depends, for his recovery to good and to God, entirely on the free grace of God; this grace is therefore indispensable, prevenient, irresistible, indefectible; and being thus the free grace of God, must have lain in all the details of its conference and working in the intention of God from all eternity. (4)
Now the so-called Five Points of Calvinism, which were not really Calvin's to begin with though truly representative of his theology, were formulated implicitly by Augustine, who drew his inspiration for them from Paul. All through the centuries thereafter down to Luther's time these same five points have been argued over, denied, believed, explored, written about, and misunderstood. Whether man is totally depraved and spiritually dead or only very sick, * whether Election is based entirely on God's pleasure or on foreseen merit, whether the sacrifice of Christ is intended for all men or only for the elect, whether men can or cannot resist the grace of God, and whether the saints are eternally secure in their salvation or can fall away and be lost again: these are the basic issues of debate in the theology of salvation.
OUCH !!!...now that hurt my 1 feeling that has a billion emotions...:rolleyes:...I just gota figer out which emotion it is...:laugh:...Itasca...you may certainly attack the articles that I post and you may also attack me personally...if that is what you chosse to do...as far as the comment about my heart being black...I forgive you...xo
Indeed, truth is not an opinion, especially the opinion of a human!
We have God's Word where all we need is writen there!
When talking about Christians, we should take in consideration that they could be, understanding wrong, believing wrong, doing wrong, use the name as cover, never have attending a church, never have looked inside the Bible, fanatics etc.
In few words, the volume of the word "Christian" is not explicitely described!
When talking about God's Word, we shoul take also in consideration, that Word alone, by absence of Spirit, will not help as much. Hebrews allthough having the Word, the zeal, and the experience, failed to see the truth!
And now let us think!
Are we blessed to live on an open Bible period?
Are we blessed to have Bible translated in our own language?
Are we blessed that typography allowed us to have a copy for nothing?
Now a little bit of History!
Luther was a catholic. At his time, catholic church was improoving Religion by fear and money!
Luthers resistance helped German nations to get out of the catholic influence. Luther translated Bible to German. People who knows German and English, will find out that German translation is more accurate and better than the KJB translation in to English. Sure the language helps a lot, but we also have to feel blessed for.
The world, because of Luther, became enlighted the we get saved trough God's Grace! That was hidden for almost 1.300 years!
At least, we are not adviced to trust on humans, but on Christ Himself (the word believe, in Greek has the meaning of trust).
As i may assume, you got your experience with Jesus Christ, through a calling. The calling came through previous called people who enjoyed open Bible possibility.
I hardly understand, what you try to say!
You are free not to like Protestants, Calvinists, Catholics, Orthodoxes, because you may read some to accuse them for a lot of reasons. But you are not free to judge them oor to condemn. That is allowed only to Father in Heaven!
�The Sovereignty of Grace by Arthur C. Custance, Ph.D.� (a Calvinist)
Where Ella got her information can be found at
http://www.custance.org/old/grace/ch5.html
if anyone wants to read the whole article.
Why Ella wants to keep her sources �Secret��I do not understand? You would think that she would want everyone to have this information�unless her �sources� are from Calvinist websites? Huuumm?
aaawwww, Arch, Praise God!... you found the information, that's what I'm talkin 'bout. Or did someone else find it for you and PM the information to you? Most likely this is what happend, but it doesn't matter, just as long as I didn't give it to you.
As I stated, I'm not obligated to tell you not one thng as to what my source is, unless I find it necessary. So if you found the source GRRRRRRREAT! If someone else found the source for you, then GRRRRRREAT again, but the fact remains, I didn't give it to you... go in search and do your own research, or have some one else to do it for you. :rocknroll:
