How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 16 Apr, 2012 05:53 AM
If God chose Paul and the believers at Chorinth, why is it you say he does not choose me?
1 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, 2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4 I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of God which was given to you by Christ Jesus, 5 that you were enriched in everything by Him in all utterance and all knowledge, 6 even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you, 7 so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11 For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe's household, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. 16 Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect. 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God--and righteousness and sanctification and redemption-- 31 that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory in the Lord."
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 05:42 AM
Also, PJ:
Please show me in the paragraph below (and for the love of God, don't just copy and paste the whole thing) where I was insulting to you. I've totally been insulting to you before because I find your behavior ridiculous, but in this case, I wasn't"
>>I believe in free will, and have studied somewhat in depth verses that support predestination (strongly, STRONGLY against it) and whatever the opposite would be, written papers on how free will works with God's sovereignty, and what not. I don't say this because I think I'm an authority but because it is possible to believe this without compromising one's faith and without ~denying the Bible~ (which usually means, denying one person's interpretation of the Bible). I'm very very NOT cool with any ambiguous, judgey religious words hurled at me or others who may think this way, especially those who would not be able to back it up. I am willing to engage in the topic as regular human beings, which means no copy/pasted Bible verses and no insults or insinuations that my standing with God is less than anyone else's. My standing with God is in Christ, and I don't believe their are degrees of that, regardless of my heretic philosophical beliefs
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 05:43 AM
Where did my post go? That wasn't even what it said.
Also, PJ:
Please show me in the paragraph below (and for the love of God, don't just copy and paste the whole thing) where I was insulting to you. I've totally been insulting to you before because I find your behavior ridiculous, but in this case, I wasn't:
~quoted post, y'all are so good at copypasta you can just find it yourself~
Was it the word "ambiguous?" Do you even know what that means? It means VAGUE. So yes. I called you vague. Your words are vague. Your responses are vague. Was it "judgey?" Because your words and responses are judging. Therefore, they are judgey. I could have said judgmental but I'm lazy, and that word has a different connotation to me. Judgey is more that you're angry and bitter and hate everyone you think isn't as spiritual as you, because deep down inside, you're really insecure or have narcissistic personality disorder.
Same thing, same thing.
So please. This wasn't even the thread where I called you creepy. Which I will also clarify by saying I find your actions creepy. You are old and still trolling free dating forums with your cultic religious posts. I find that creepy. Most people your age do more productive things.
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 05:54 AM
Where did my post go? That wasn't even what it said.
Also, PJ:
Please show me in the paragraph below (and for the love of God, don't just copy and paste the whole thing) where I was insulting to you. I've totally been insulting to you before because I find your behavior ridiculous, but in this case, I wasn't:
~quoted post, y'all are so good at copypasta you can just find it yourself~
Was it the word "ambiguous?" Do you even know what that means? It means VAGUE. So yes. I called you vague. Your words are vague. Your responses are vague. Was it "judgey?" Because your words and responses are judging. Therefore, they are judgey. I could have said judgmental but I'm lazy, and that word has a different connotation to me. Judgey is more that you're angry and bitter and hate everyone you think isn't as spiritual as you, because deep down inside, you're really insecure or have narcissistic personality disorder.
Same thing, same thing.
So please. This wasn't even the thread where I called you creepy. Which I will also clarify by saying I find your actions creepy. You are old and still trolling free dating forums with your cultic religious posts. I find that creepy. Most people your age do more productive things.
Allow the Holy Spirit to be a part of your life and your tongue and then you can speak life
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 06:03 AM
Why did you copy my whole post? It was already double posted because the forum screw.ed up. Why does it need to be a triple post? Not that I complain about you posting all my words... it's a definite improvement from your typical format. Because now your post is 95% my words, and then your little religious tagline which means nothing because he already is, though I appreciate the judgment that is so poorly disguised as concern.
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 07:51 AM
I'm curious, do you run your posts through Google translator or a similar program? Because they don't make sense. And I'm not just talking about your theology. I mean the words, the grammar, the sentences... they don't make sense. And it reflects on your theology, which is jacked.
How is it the " free willers" believe God has changed?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2012 07:52 AM
>Allow the Holy Spirit to be a part of your life and your tongue and then you can speak life <
If you truly believe you are right, the rest of our fallen states should concern you. It does not though, because all you ever do is tell people they don't have the secret things you have.
