also...Satan doesnt care if you have Faith...he doesnt want you to believe in Christ Jesus or have Faith in Him and God's Salvation...xo
This statement is one that would at first light indicate a lack of understanding of this all so important term, faith.
The kingdom of darkness would Respond to this statement in like manner, lol, rofl.
There is not one member in the kingdom of Darkness that wants any christian to live a life of faith, for any believer fulfilling this truth terrifies them.
Heb 11: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Ga 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love
I'm not even going to address such non-sense PJ...never calling out a person by name...you addressed me didnt you ???...:rolleyes:...and make it clear that by your opinion that I now also I'm not "saved"...You have some SERIOUS ISSUES you need to deal with...and that is MHO...
I will however share that in Duet 8-9 God speaks of Temperal (Earthly) Blessings for the Jews and not because of thier Righteousness...for they are Stiff Necked...It is only for His Grace did He make Good on His Promise to the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob...(Temperal Blessings)...and todays Christians are not given a promise of "Temperal" they are given a promise of "Spiritual"...Christ goes to prepair a place for us "Spiritual" and He will return "Temperal" "Physical" to Earth to set up His Kingdom...and with that said...Yall hava GOD HolySpirit Filled day...xo
I'm not even going to address such non-sense PJ...never calling out a person by name...you addressed me didnt you ???......and make it clear that by your opinion that I now also I'm not "saved"...You have some SERIOUS ISSUES you need to deal with...and that is MHO...
I will however share that in Duet 8-9 God speaks of Temperal (Earthly) Blessings for the Jews and not because of thier Righteousness...for they are Stiff Necked...It is only for His Grace did He make Good on His Promise to the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob...(Temperal Blessings)...and todays Christians are not given a promise of "Temperal" they are given a promise of "Spiritual"...Christ goes to prepair a place for us "Spiritual" and He will return "Temperal" "Physical" to Earth to set up His Kingdom...and with that said...Yall hava GOD HolySpirit Filled day...xo
First things first, this response again deny's the blessing and until the mind is renewed to the perfect will of God concerning the blessing. The father never changes his will for man and of course we are given temporal provision in the new Covenant, that is a fact not a promise.
The wealth on this earth is not For Satan's crowd. Hello.
Jude Jesus loves You.
Btw the way we are accountable for all we omit, deny and hinder the lord from doing in our life. Love, Love.
Their is no truth in that response, that is remedied by acknowledging The lord and allowing him to correct you.
Yes PJ...however that "Kingdom" on earth you are speaking of is not yet come...and your side track off the topic to explaining about the Jews is just that a side track...you voice alot about little and a little about lot...and you didnt like that I corrected you on what the Scriptures you listed are really about...plus...you still didnt answer Ryans question he asked you...and I'm still not a Health and Wealther or a part of the Word of Faith movement nor do I plan on joining or converting to anything other than what GOD has already converted me to through His Son Christ Jesus...xo
The kingdom of God is now come to those on the earth that are born again, it is inside of man, I am not talking about the Kingdom of heaven.
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I'm not even going to address such non-sense PJ...never calling out a person by name...you addressed me didnt you ???......and make it clear that by your opinion that I now also I'm not "saved"...You have some SERIOUS ISSUES you need to deal with...and that is MHO...
I never said you where not saved, so why would you respond in like manner, this is what I Said:
es PJ...however that "Kingdom" on earth you are speaking of is not yet come...and your side track off the topic to explaining about the Jews is just that a side track...you voice alot about little and a little about lot...and you didnt like that I corrected you on what the Scriptures you listed are really about...plus...you still didnt answer Ryans question he asked you...and I'm still not a Health and Wealther or a part of the Word of Faith movement nor do I plan on joining or converting to anything other than what GOD has already converted me to through His Son Christ Jesus...xo
I said: if that statement is true then you are not saved, I know the kingdom of God has come unto me, by no means to I believe that statement concerning the kingdom on earth is true.
I do not even in spite of all the evil accusation pointed to me, do I say one is not saved. Nor do I ever think you are not saved, no one can receive the Holy spirit unless they are born again.
've asked several things and you very rarely answer anything. You certainly haven't addressed the questions that have been brought up in this thread. You said you do not mention names and that is a lie. I've read and re-read your post a few times to make sure I had it right...and I did. The fact is, you do mention names. You know this however and are trying to divert attention so you don't have to address any of the other issues I brought up.
I have answered and they are scriptural, but you do not like the answer's and if I expound on my answer to you, do you know what Your responses are.
I will give you an example:
Jn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Jn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Let us remember some declaration"s in the word concerning the word of God:
The word of God is light, there is no darkness what soever in it.
The word of God is life and it is alive.
The word of God is seed to be sown in the heart of man, never the mind
The word of God is water, and that water is for the seed as is the light, to cause the seed to grow when it is planted in the heart of man.
No man is in error at all times when he uses this term interpretation, which usually is the involvement of the mind and flesh.
Just as it was declared in this statement:
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Do you know scripture is also declared to be a more sure word of prophecy, just as the man that received any prophecy is to speak it as it was spoken, not adding to, or taking away from the words.
So is man today expected to receive the word of God today the truth has never changed.
I have said it numerous times the answer is in the parable of the sower as Jesus taught and said if you do not understand this truth you will not understand any parable, this is the way the kingdom of God operates on the earth.
Hearing
Believing
Then doing the word of God.
You can not omit any step and reach faith.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God
You can not pray for it!!
There is no faith unless one knows the word of God
What is the faith included in this context and who is it to.
"I said: if that statement is true then you are not saved, I know the kingdom of God has come unto me, by no means to I believe that statement concerning the kingdom on earth is true."
Yea um.... She said the statement was true...So....you did indeed say she was not saved.
"I have answered and they are scriptural, but you do not like the answer's and if I expound on my answer to you, do you know what Your responses are."
No...you have not answered, as everyone can see. Do I know what my responses are? Not before you answer...because I wouldn't know what I'm responding to. make sense?
Okay so you gave an example of John 3:15-21...What exactly do these scriptures refute from the video?
Now you are back on the word "interpretation" again. I've asked you to defend why interpretation come from the flesh in the past. I see this time you have backed off of that claim and added the word "usually" before it. I'm glad to see you are wising up...because you do indeed hold an interpretation too, by definition.
"Just as it was declared in this statement: 2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
16 For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For when he received honor and glory from God the Father, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, �This is my beloved Son,[i] with whom I am well pleased,� 18 we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. 19 And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
...Ok so what we have here is an exhortation to listen to prophecy and to know that it comes from God, not man's own interpretation. If you used this verse to teach that having an interpretation of scripture is of the flesh, then you are wrong. That is not the intent of the verse.
Furthermore...I had several posts on this topic in another thread you started...and you conveniently ignored them all, choosing to re-post your initial OP instead of addressing the holes in your thinking that I pointed out. So...having said that...I won't go further on the issue of interpretation because you've already had these things explained to you.
"I have said it numerous times the answer is in the parable of the sower as Jesus taught and said if you do not understand this truth you will not understand any parable, this is the way the kingdom of God operates on the earth."
But what you have not done is show how the parable of the sower contradicts anything I have said...BTW...how is any of this relevant to the video?
No Sir and you just admitted to manipulating my words.
And you also ignored my response to you, one of the common tactics you will find on this forum.
It is not true because I said it, or Jude said it was so, The truth is truth because the lord has declared it to be so and he said the kingdom of God has come unto us now.
I exhorted you if you do not understand, ask and I will Clarify.
So this is a perfect example of what I have said time and time again, people so freely Choose to hear as they will, and that action has great disregard for truth.
The reign of Terror is consistent in it's action's
Ignore those that respond to questions and often the response will be to ignore the response and say the person did not answer.
Attack the messenger, this is a big one avoiding the issue.
Here is a very subtle one You said, and all the person does is quote scripture. The word of God is for man, but it is not the will of man until he accepts.
Another Vulgar tactic is to call a person a liar, you can find that happening in this post several times and every time it was said it was a lie from the accuser.
If you desire to walk in truth and know the truth, you have the responsibility, just as I do to acknowledge The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit all three have committed to whosoever, without exception to answer any question.
"No Sir and you just admitted to manipulating my words."
Another diversion tactic from you I'm assuming. Please show where I admitted to manipulating your words.
"And you also ignored my response to you, one of the common tactics you will find on this forum."
PJ, I have addressed your responses as I usually try to do. I never receive this in return and you have the nerve to say I ignore you? Your post history is full of ignoring people. I'm not the only one in this thread who has told you that you haven't answered my questions...Why is it that you think everyone is blind BUT you?
"It is not true because I said it, or Jude said it was so, The truth is truth because the lord has declared it to be so and he said the kingdom of God has come unto us now."
So are you back to making the case that she isn't saved?
"I exhorted you if you do not understand, ask and I will Clarify."
Well now that would certainly be a first. I have asked Several things which you simply do not respond to. Since I have your word that you will clarify...Please clarify for me, what your posts have to do with the video...
"The reign of Terror is consistent in it's action's. Ignore those that respond to questions and often the response will be to ignore the response and say the person did not answer."
So let me make sure I'm getting this right. The reign of Terror is evidenced by someone ignoring responses? PJ you have just implied that you are a strong proponent of the "reign of Terror". I do not ignore your response. I tell you that you have ignored my, and then I respond to your posts...Something I do not get in return.
"Attack the messenger, this is a big one avoiding the issue."
You mean by telling them they are of the flesh and aren't saved and all of the other things you say against us? I don't shy away from the issues...
"Here is a very subtle one You said, and all the person does is quote scripture. The word of God is for man, but it is not the will of man until he accepts."
I said all the man does is quote scripture? Can you direct me to this quote so I can clarify...if I did indeed make this quote.
"Another Vulgar tactic is to call a person a liar, you can find that happening in this post several times and every time it was said it was a lie from the accuser."
Well now...looks like you've just called someone a liar...Hard to live by your own standards is it?
"If you desire to walk in truth and know the truth, you have the responsibility, just as I do to acknowledge The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit all three have committed to whosoever, without exception to answer any question."
I believe in the trinity. I'm not sure how this is relevant to the video in the OP. I'm not sure how ANY OF THIS IS RELEVANT. In fact I find it very ironic because the very men you defend from the video, call us gods...so clearly you believe in more than JUST the trinity.
