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"What Must I Do To Be Saved"
Posted : 11 Oct, 2012 03:13 PM

The Bible tells us that when we die we will spend eternity (a very long time, wouldn�t you agree?) in either paradise or torment. Matthew 25:46. If we search the Bible, with an open mind and heart, we will discover what God says about how to gain eternal life in heaven. If not, maybe we are relying upon what friends or family or churches have taught or told us. Is this wise? Or should we investigate for ourselves? If you were buying a car, would you rely upon what you were told or would you check it out for yourself? If you were buying a home, would you rely upon what you are told or would you check it for yourself? Eternity is much more important than earthly matters. Let�s look at what God says, week by week, to see how what we might think compares with what the Bible says. Then, remember, God promises that if we seek him we will find him! I Chronicles 28:9, II Chronicles 15:2, Proverbs 8:17.



We will go through the New Testament of the Bible, week by week, stopping at each of the hundreds of verses that tell us how we might gain eternal life in heaven. But, first, let us spend a moment considering whether or not the Bible is true, and inspired by God, as it declares in II Timothy 3:16, or whether it is a pack of fairy tales, as some would contend. If the Bible is not true, such a search is without any value. But, if the Bible is true, and God does tell us in the Bible how to gain eternal life and avoid eternal torment, then this is the most important search that any of us will ever conduct.



There are many proofs that the Bible is true, but let me mention a few. The center of the Bible is Jesus and the key question here is whether or not he rose from the dead, as the Bible says. If he did, I think this would prove the Bible is true, don�t you? Will you be writing out today�s date at any time? 2007 means 2007 years from the birth of Jesus. Something important must have happened back then to establish our dating system. And, do you notice a difference between the Christian countries of the world and the countries that have been plagued by false religion? If not, I suggest you turn on your television news this evening and you may notice some differences. And, finally, let us consider the disciples. All but one of the remaining eleven died a martyr�s death for teaching that Jesus was God. These men knew whether Jesus rose from the dead or not because they were there. Did they die a martyr�s death to protect a lie? If so, for what conceivable reason? Next week let�s consider what may be the greatest outside proof of the Bible�s truth and then we�ll begin to look at verses that tell us how to gain God�s great gift of eternal life in paradise!



Before we start looking at salvation verses, let�s look at a great proof of the truth of the Bible. How do we know the Bible is true and not one of the other multitude of false religions? Let�s consider prophecy. Most of the false religions of the world do not even attempt prophecy and those that do invariably get it wrong. Humanism, the man centered religion of today�s elite, and many others, published its �Bible�, the Humanist Manifesto I, in 1933. Within 40 years, in 1973, it had to be rewritten (the Bible has never been rewritten) as their first �Bible� couldn�t even accurately predict 40 years hence. And, these scholars are still rewriting the �Bible� they couldn�t quite get straight (and never will). But in the real (i.e. Christian) Bible are hundreds of prophecies, most already fulfilled to the letter with only a few yet to be fulfilled. For example, thousands of years ago it was predicted that Jerusalem would be destroyed, the Jews exiled and scattered and persecuted, and that the Jews would again be drawn to Israel to there recreate their nation (which occurred in 1948). The Bible also foretold that Israel (a tiny nation no bigger than most of our states), as we approach the end of time, would become the center of world history--and if you don�t believe that incredible prophecy is being fullfilled before your very eyes, just pick up and read any newspaper any day of the week. See http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com for references to these and many other prophecies. I think we should worry a lot less about today�s maddening political situation, which God will deal with in His time, and a lot more about where you and I will spend eternity. The Bible, for example, has a lot to say about what will happen in the Mideast in the coming years - - but more importantly it has much more to say about where you and I will spend eternity.



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"What Must I Do To Be Saved"
Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:36 PM

I posted them up for the benefit of all of the readers.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:36 PM

Jesus answered, " I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You must not be suprised at my sayings. " You must be born again." The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So. it is with everyone born of the Spirit."



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"What Must I Do To Be Saved"
Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:43 PM

Haha yea I know. I was just clarifying for those who think I may not have given the OP a fair read.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:43 PM

{predestination because it was terribly weak reasoning}

this is your Opinion.



If I posted the Orginal post with Scriptures why would I need to Defend it!

I do not have to answer the way you think I should answer.

My Belief is what I orginally posted.



You keep repeating your Disagreement.....



That is your choice if you choose to disagree..



My Faiths on this Board and mine is in bing SAVED by Repentance and Faith in JESUS CHRIST.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:44 PM

So people are born again because the Spirit goes into whomever it wills? You coming around to our side?

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:48 PM

"this is your Opinion."

Not at all, you said people are predestined because they first choose their destiny. The completely ignores the definition of predestination as well as the relevant scriptures. That's not opinion.



"If I posted the Orginal post with Scriptures why would I need to Defend it!"

I'm not sure if you are doing this on purpose or not but I already said that I was not acting you to defend your OP. I was talking specifically about predestination which your OP did not refute or even attempt to.



Your faith is in a decision you made and you keep repeating that.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:48 PM

{I posted them up for the benefit of all of the readers}





I post for the Readers/viewers too.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:53 PM

He did is so they could see how none of them address what you claim they do. You claim they address our refutations. Clearly they don't. He was just making it easier for the readers to see this.

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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 03:59 PM

{I didn't post my opinion as it related to defense of truth. I gave you clear scriptures. You deny them at your own peril. I question though what kind of example you are setting for new believers who may be viewing this thread. You want them to be taught that not all scriptures matter, just the ones that line up with your own thinking? I sure hope you don't lead others on that path.}





You judge I am misleading and I posted my Belief in my original post. So now you say I am leading people astry

just because you Post Scriptures to your own liking and

Use your OWN interpretation of them.



Just because you post your own scripture and interpret them the Way you want, does that mean You have the understanding right and others are Wrong in their understanding of Scripture.



I have seen a lot of that action of You brother on these Forums. Why are YOU the only one correct in Scripture on these Forums.



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Posted : 12 Oct, 2012 04:15 PM

If you are doing this on purpose then please quite. Please stick to what I have actually done. I didn't address your OP until recently. I addressed your post on predestination. That's why I say you are misleading people. That and telling them that everyone having a different faith is okay, truth isn't supposed to be defended, etc...even in the face of scriptures that teach the opposite. You never once came back and admitted you were wrong on those points even though it was plain for anyone to see. It reeks of an integrity issue and yes it's entirely misleading to others. How would you feel if there were new believers reading and you were teaching them that truth isn't important to defend? How would you feel if they learned from you that not admitting when you are wrong is okay to do as a Christian?



This had nothing to do with posting scriptures of my own liking. I posted scriptures that were directly connected to your posts. If you were honest, you would admit as much. You can talk about my own interpretation all you want but you have refused to even give your interpretation. Are you willing to give your interpretation now of the verses that teach we are to give a defense for truth? I have no secret agenda here. You want to make this about people posting their "own" scriptures as if all of scripture isn't relevant. Btw, this idea that it's wrong to tell others they are wrong about scripture, baffles me. Your OP is what you view as truth. Therefore something opposed to it is a lie. Therefore, you are telling others they are wrong. You are being a hypocrite. The idea that we are to be tolerant of other beliefs that aren't the true gospel is not found anywhere is scripture. Tolerance is what atheists preach. Tolerance is what those who are the most intolerant teach.



Now you want to misrepresent me again and imply that I claim I'm the only one right about scripture. Ironically, in this thread I'm in agreement with everyone but you. In the other thread I've been frequenting, I was defending another poster in there. The question is not why am I always right about scripture, but why you are wrong now and it doesn't bother you.

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