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One of Man's Great Traditional Distortion of The Topic of "THE RAPTURE'
Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 07:19 AM

2nd th 2:1 � Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2nd th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2nd th 2:3 � Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;



For many years the word apostasy was translated departure and this fits in line with the context.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 03:37 AM

Only a few posts back you said "the word of God never makes sense, nor will it ever"; that being the case, wouldn't it be more profitable for you to listen to those who have understanding, than to continue making these posts?



I haven't discounted the possibility I may be wrong, but so far it seems as though I'm generally in agreement with my brothers and sisters whilst you're finding it hard to get anyone here to support you. I'd seriously step back and consider with the help of other Christians whether you could be wrong in your understanding.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 02:39 PM

There is no rapture



Nah



Cool another irrelevant post....unless of course you believe this verse proves the rapture



"There has never been a question to the integrity of the word of God."



Cool story but I don't believe I questioned the word of God....unless of course you are calling yourself the word of God. Oh PJ...you always run yourself into so many holes when you constantly choose to use your own words in place of those you oppose.



Which brings us back to the point of if you were trying to show this, then why were you posting verses that had nothing to do with the topic...then you say I question the word of God...when clearly I question your views about the word of God. I mean, we can be honest here or we can continue the spin game and get nowhere. Tips I've always given you PJ are to stop changing everyone's words and deal with the actual topic. I've always wondered whether you truly don't understand conversations or if you do this on purpose to divert attention away from whatever you may want to divert attention away from. Either way, it's a poor tactic to win any type of argument. Of course you will come back and say that man doesn't argue the word of God and that it stand on it's on....and again prove that you either completely misunderstood my post or that you are intentionally trying to twist what I say.



Calvinist" has nothing to do with why people don't understand you. Furthermore, it's more than three people who have brought this to your attention in the past and you know this.



Only a few posts back you said "the word of God never makes sense, nor will it ever"; that being the case, wouldn't it be more profitable for you to listen to those who have understanding, than to continue making these posts?







I haven't discounted the possibility I may be wrong, but so far it seems as though I'm generally in agreement with my brothers and sisters whilst you're finding it hard to get anyone here to support you. I'd seriously step back and consider with the help of other Christians whether you could be wrong in your understanding.



There are responses you can review if you like not to point any one out, they are plainly all visible, there are no responses other than one that even would be acceptable as a christian response to the word of God. There is no understanding in responses that reflect the topic or Christianity.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 03:07 PM

"There are responses you can review if you like not to point any one out, they are plainly all visible, there are no responses other than one that even would be acceptable as a christian response to the word of God. There is no understanding in responses that reflect the topic or Christianity."



Sorry, I don't understand the above paragraph. Perhaps you could re-phrase it?

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 05:27 PM

There are responses that would reflect Christianity

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 05:47 PM

"Tc Know some are not interested in the truth and Just as Jesus said they will not see nor will they hear for they hardened their heart against him. "



Are you talking to your self or are we in the twilight zone?

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2013 07:14 PM

letthismind2;'



If all believe what they have siad they are somewhere other than the lord would be on the topic.



The responses are nothing that would come out of union with the lord Jesus.



1985 the Same one that saved me, continually talked to me about the rapture, and it is so evident today what he said to me then.



There are no difeerent truths on the topic there is one for the church that is on the earth today.

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2013 04:12 AM

It came to mind this morning after my devotion time. False prophets focus and swell on one scripture, and neglect the rest of the bible. Only the true Church focuses on the whole bible, that Church is the one God is the cornerstone.

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2013 07:26 AM

I'm sorry you don't think my response was fitting for a Christian - and if the others here think I'm out of order then I'll gladly apologise publicly to you. In my defence, I'd suggest you read what was written to the seven churches in Revelations - complaint and criticism do have their places if people are in error. Similarly, it's a mark of spiritual maturity that somebody remains 'teachable', and open to correction. AFAIK, Nicodemus was the only pharisee mentioned that was open enough to seek further. Like you, he struggled with being told things different to what he believed, and we don't know what happened to him in the end, but he'll be remembered as the one who was willing to listen sincerely when what he was hearing was different to what he'd always held true.



As I've alluded to earlier, there's plenty of Christians who love the Lord here telling you that what you believe is inaccurate, and previous few, if any, agreeing with you. That should be enough to make you wonder if maybe you've swallowed a lie, and go research it more (and that doesn't mean getting confirmation from the people teaching you those beliefs). If after doing so you are convinced that you're correct then fine, we'll simply have to disagree and let God decide when we're stood before Him - but at the moment it does seem very much like you're not willing to consider any other belief than your own as being truth.

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Posted : 12 Jan, 2013 09:54 AM

TC, Just a little heads up to help us out here with following you......



" " Quotation marks are for the purpose of quoting others not your self.

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