1 Chronicles 29:10-12 Therefore David blessed the LORD before all the assembly; and David said: "Blessed are You, LORD God of Israel, our Father, forever and ever. (11) Yours, O LORD, is the greatness, The power and the glory, The victory and the majesty; For all that is in heaven and in earth is Yours; Yours is the kingdom, O LORD, And You are exalted as head over all. (12) Both riches and honor come from You, And You reign over all. In Your hand is power and might; In Your hand it is to make great And to give strength to all.
Genesis 50:20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.
[ This verse shows that God's plan & purpose will NOT be changed, despite man's attempt at doing so. Though man tries to change things for his own sinful purposes, God's will & purpose will ALWAYS prevail. ]
Psa 115:3 But our God [is] in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
Psa 135:6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, [that] did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.
Isaiah 14:24,27 The LORD of hosts has sworn, saying, "Surely, as I have thought, so it shall come to pass, And as I have purposed, so it shall stand:
(27) For the LORD of hosts has purposed, And who will annul it? His hand is stretched out, And who will turn it back?"
Isaiah 46:9-11 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, (10) Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, �My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,� (11) Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.
Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, [and] there is nothing too hard for thee:
Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
FAITH & REPENTANCE ARE DIVINE GIFTS -
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, (9) not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard [us]: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
Acts 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
Php 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
2 Timothy 2:25-26 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, (26) and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Galatians 1:15-16 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother�s womb and called me through His grace, (16) to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
2Pet 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
1Cor 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ [from another]? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive [it], why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received [it]?
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
SECRETS OF THE KINGDOM ARE MADE KNOWN TO THE ELECT -
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Matthew 11:25-27 At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. (26) "Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. (27) "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Luke10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Matthew 13:10-11,16 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?" (11) He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
(16) "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Luke 24:44-45 Then He said to them, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." (45) And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
John 6:37,44-45,64-65 (37) "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
(44) "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. (45) "It is written in the prophets, �And they shall all be taught by God.� Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.
(64) "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. (65) And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."
1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
Ephesians 1:17-19 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, (18) the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, (19) and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power
Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
Nope, if you look through the threads over the last year or so, the evidence is there. I find it unprofitable to try to refute verse by verse because those who are convinced their chosen verses are the only ones that matter will not be convinced otherwise.
I grew up in that environment, I deal with people face to face that believe that way, I am that way at this point in my life...I've read the arguments for and against Calvinism, Armenism, Protestant, Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Etc...
I know whom I believe and I know why I believe that way based on a variety of Scriptures. I know that I am saved and why I am saved...that I am a child of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, never to be separated from His great love!
All Christians are elect...once you are saved, you are called to serve Him...we are a special and peculiar people...
He was taught the Scripture as a child, taught right from wrong, taught that the Messiah was coming, and believed. He'd he not believed, he would not be elect.
You can go look through the threads for yourself. And cut and paste the posts where you believe that anything that any of those verses say has somehow been refuted.
Again, you miss the larger point. You cannot use the Word of God to refute the Word of God -- you must harmonize the whole thing. Therefore, you read a wall of scripture and response with a few passages that you believe contradict what those scriptures say. That makes NO sense. You are dividing a house against itself.
"All Christians are elect...once you are saved, you are called to serve Him."
The elect are chosen in Christ before the foundations of the earth. They are saved because they have been elected to salvation. You do not decide to accept salvation and then God elects you into some kind of service.
I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else on the site. You called me a liar for saying the verses were refuted in previous posts.
And, yes, Christians are elected, called to various roles in the church. Some to preach, some to teach, some to administer, ALL to spread the Gospel.
The passages cited on the elect are written to Christians. All Christians are called, fore-ordained to serve I various capacities, depending on the gifts they are given...but that is off topic...
I said that your response was a dishonest one. Feel free to go through the threads of the last years and prove it to be otherwise. Otherwise, I am confident of my assertion. I will not go on a fools errand when I know the truth.
So by saying I was dishonest you called me a liar...because that is what a liar is....someone who is dishonest.
The verses posted have been discussed multiple times by a variety of people. You disagree with their views, that does not mean they were not refuted or that their views are wrong. They just differ from your views.
It could be that you have not been open to other's views on the verses because you came to your own conclusion (based on your posts) and found a doctrine that aligned to your views.
Responding to Scripture with Scripture is actually the correct way to address an issue.
