Author	Thread: Huckleberry -- This one is for you!
Admin	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 14 Sep, 2013 12:07 AM You asked: "My question is, was her it her own humble persistence and faith that allowed Jesus to heal this woman's daughter or was grace given first to allow this woman to know who Jesus really was that she may ask this blessing from him?" Please ignore the other member who spoke in error and said:"It is Faith Then Grace, that is how the kingdom of God operates on the earth." Grace precedes faith -- this is the order. (2Tim 1:9 [KJB:PCE]) Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. When was grace given to the Elect? Before the world began. Why did he give grace to his Elect? For his own purpose. This happens in eternity before time. (Rom 10:17 [KJB:PCE]) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When does faith come to the Elect? When they hear (understand) the Word of God. This happens in time (history) (Rom 5:2 [KJB:PCE]) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Read it -- We (the elect) have access into this grace (the grace given to us in eternity) by faith (which is the appointed means in time) (Eph 2:8 [KJB:PCE]) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Read it -- We (the elect) are saved by grace (the grace given to us in eternity as a gift from God) through faith (which is the appointed means in time) :buddies: Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:17 PM Dear Jude, Vs 1. Ye (You) are a member of CDFF. Vs 2. Ye (You) are a female. Vs 3. Ye (You) live in California. Sincerely, IWA Jude, Please show in verse 3 (from my letter to you above) the WORD "Jude"...Thanxs in advance...XO Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 05:31 PM OK....Tony Morony...carefully read this a 3rd time...and if you r want to continue to negate or redirect or what ever it is you choose to do...so be it...the point is...You don't get to squish a WORD in where the Hebrew or Greek meaning olf that WORD does not support it...You need to get head unwrapped from the word Elect and understand the Real meaning of the WORD...kinda like...the word ALL...in Hebrew...it means ALL nothing more and nothing less...its just that Simple... Eph 2:8 [KJB:PCE]) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Shared ~ Read it -- We (the elect) are saved by grace (the grace given to us in eternity as a gift from God) through faith (which is the appointed means in time) *** My Bible doesn't say what you just said...it says... Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: *** Its purty straight forward and that "ye" is este G2075 1."you are" (second person plural of 'to be') from eimi G1510 1.to be, to exist, to happen, to be present [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ *** neither of these words means "WE" or "Elect" or what Elect means bachiyr H972 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ 1.chosen, choice one, chosen one, elect (of God) ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] *** Its not a wise thing to squish words into the text and this is why I cant except what this person shares here as sound doctrine because it is not...XO Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 05:38 PM First, my name is NOT Tony. Second, I have simplified things as much as I possibly can for you. If I write a letter to Jude, everything in that letter is intended for Jude from the first paragraphs to the last. This is true whether or not I state at the opening of each paragraph that it's still intended for Jude. That's about as simple as it gets. No way to make it any simpler. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 07:11 PM 1 Corinthians 14:34�Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.� 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ******* Note these verses are in the middle of a chapter on speaking in tongues. This site is NOT a church.� ******** 1 Timothy 2:11�Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.� 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. ********* The other reference, because there are two, talks about 'the man'...well IWA is NOT 'the man' and has no authority over me to usurp. �Because he fails to follow all the other verses in the Bible that address proper Christian behavior, he is not in a position to 'silence' me. ********* 1 Peter 2:15�For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:� 16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.� 17�Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. ********** 1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. �Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.� 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:� 7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. ********* Since you are younger than me, you are to submit unto the elder... ********* �2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;� 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:� 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. ******* I will continue to apply the Scriptures I learned from my youth up and the studies I have participated in over my life...you are presumptuous in thinking you study more than others. �It's not always the length of time, but the quality of time...as well as what one reads. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 07:12 PM 1 Timothy 2:3�For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.� 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 08:11 PM The Word of God is what denies your authority to teach or correct a man. It is not me as a man that negates you. It is God's word. You bypass it because you don't like what it says. No surprise there. Submit myself to you as an elder? That's right up there with the stupidest things that you have ever posted here -- and that's a mighty long list. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 18 Sep, 2013 07:04 PM 1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. *** Stupid ???...cherry picking scripture...huh !!!....LORD have Mercy...if it was an Elder man you'd have no problem understanding this scripture that Peter taught...there is no difference betwixt man and women in Yahshua's eyes...which are the eyes of Yahweh...and when a person...even a child understands this..the Spiritual Understanding just comes flooding in...but hey...what do I know...Im just a gal...XO Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 18 Sep, 2013 07:52 PM Do you two intentionally pervert the Word of God just so that you can have something to argue from? Or do you really believe that that assertion has merit? It's impossible for me to believe that you think that's a legit Biblical argument. I mean it truly is one of the stupidest things I've heard yet from either of you. (and I am not trying to sound insulting I just can't think of a more straightforward honest way to express that sentiment) Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 21 Sep, 2013 01:54 PM It's no more stupid than you impulsively claiming that women are not allowed to post their views, comments, and counterpoints on this public site. You pick one verse and then proclaim your truth...you have no authority in this site yet when you don't like what people post you begin denigrating them. Either it's all good or none of it's good... Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 21 Sep, 2013 01:59 PM "The Word of God is what denies your authority to teach or correct a man. It is not me as a man that negates you. It is God's word. You bypass it because you don't like what it says. No surprise there. " You lose more credibility with each stroke of the keyboard, "Teach". Post Reply

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