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Admin	Strange Fire Posted : 8 Nov, 2013 04:34 PM This was a great conference. It exposes the deep errors in the Charismatic/Word of Faith movements. I am providing links to all of the sermons/teachings that were given at the conference. There are two Q & A's that were particular useful and practical. DISCLAIMER: I do not necessarily endorse everything that Dr. MacArthur teaches elsewhere. Nor, is this my personal endorsement of each of these individuals or their teachings. However, there was much truth to be gleaned from their teachings in this particular conference. --------------- Strange Fire, part of Grace to You�s Truth Matters conference series, evaluates the doctrines, claims, and practices of the modern charismatic movement, and affirms the true Person and ministry of the Holy Spirit. The conference features pastor and Bible teacher John MacArthur, as well as teaching or presentations by: R.C. Sproul Steve Lawson Conrad Mbewe Tom Pennington Phil Johnson Nathan Busenitz Justin Peters Todd Friel Joni Eareckson Tada _______ SERMON LINKS: Strange Fire (John MacArthur) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRqD89ZBWyg A Deeper Healing (Joni Eareckson Tada) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI22o5u32z0 Undervaluing Pentecost (R.C. Sproul) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f37jFQlb6aQ :yay: Calvin�s Critique of Charismatic Calvinists (Steve Lawson) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3du945worc The African Import of Charismatic Chaos (Conrad Mbewe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciI6qfd70s Testing the Spirits (John MacArthur) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKiGrPsbtA8 A Case for Cessationism (Tom Pennington) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0z-J4RnwE A Word from the Lord? Evaluating the Modern Gift of Prophecy (Nathan Busenitz) http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/sermons/TM13-8 :yay: Is There a Baby in the Charismatic Bathwater? (Phil Johnson) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlwCcIiQs1Y The Devilish Puppet Master of the Word-Faith Movement (Justin Peters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOTrMSOrYew Strange Fire Panel Question and Answer, Session 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhG2CBVQy3w The Puritan Commitment to Sola Scriptura (Steve Lawson) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0292T7KCd0 Are We Preachers or Witch Doctors? (Conrad Mbewe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jEUOspvgsE Charismatic Counterfeits: Do the Modern Gifts Meet the Biblical Standard? (Nathan Busenitz) http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/sermons/TM13-14 Providence Is Remarkable (Phil Johnson) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUuJCnBED0 Spiritual Shipwreck of the Word-Faith Movement (Justin Peters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDmjFPFFJc Strange Fire Panel Question and Answer, Session 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt9SGH9NVP8 An Appeal to Charismatic Friends (John MacArthur) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNThGs8YXPw An Appeal to Charismatic Pretenders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGyWWTVeoQ Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Fire Posted : 12 Nov, 2013 09:01 AM Let's read this verse again: Prophecy and Tongues 1Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.� What cannot be understood, never can edify. I.e. NO advantage can be reaped from the most excellent discourses, if delivered in language such as the hearers cannot speak or understand. "Speakes not unto men" because, as a rule, no one understands anything that he says. Note also: "In the spirit". It is uncertain whether this means "in his own spirit," or "in the Spirit of God," i.e. as a result of inspiration. "speaketh � unto God"�who alone understands all languages. It is as if he spoke to God. No one could understand him but God. It is not likely that the Holy Spirit should, in the Church, suddenly inspire a man with the knowledge of some foreign language, which none in the church understood but himself and lead him to treat the mysteries of Christianity in that language, though none in the place could profit by his teaching! Summary: Why do I discuss this issue? Because my God will PUNISH whose liars who deceived me and MANY other Christians in Church saying that we speak in tongues when in fact we do NOT speak! God will punish those people through whom the Kundalini spirit has Invaded the Church Masquerading as The Holy Spirit! MOREOVER, God will punish those liars who deceived themselves and give FALSE interpretations of their "tongues" in Church! Those, who think that they pray in tongues if the tongues are NOT given anymore to Christians, deceived themselves already and they punished themselves already. :ROFL: If they give FALSE interpretations of "their tongues" then God will HOLD them accountable too. That is my point. You all have to ponder and consider what is the tongue you believe you use daily and whether or not you deceived. We have to be FREE from any deception. :angel::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Fire Posted : 12 Nov, 2013 09:15 AM ..and whether or not you deceived other Christians....or was deceived by them.... You still believe that in this world we have tongues given as gifts? But we also have satanic/demonic tongues which we clearly see in videos of the Kundalini spirit in the USA and Canada! Their "tongues" even BARK...Let me remind you: our God- the Holy Spirit does NOT bark because He is NOT dog! Dogs will be outside of the New Jerusalem! We all have to be REASONABLE because there is NO madness in the God of Israel! Post Reply
View Profile History	Strange Fire Posted : 12 Nov, 2013 09:39 AM Let me repeat what I said before: I didnt meet any prophets in our churches... what I have met is deception and lie. God is going to judge these false prophets who say desires of their hearts on behalf of God. So, I do not believe that the Spirit of God gives today gifts of prophecies and tongues as He gave them in the early Church. Moreover, there is no need for such prophecies today. I will explain you again what I think. My point is: 1. Everything is said. There is no need for any new prophecies. What is new it is not true. There is nothing new in the Bible. If you need a prophecy, open the Bible and you will see how God talks to you THROUGH the words of the Bible uttered by Him and written in the Bible already. 2. God does not talk to people DIRECTLY and in audible voice today as to Moses or Isaiah or Daniel..or other prophets. Why? God talked to Moses and prophets DIRECTLY, after this communication with God, the prophets went to Israel and communicated/gave them what God said. So, today God told us everything. There is no need for any NEW prophecies to be uttered by average christians or even pastors. 3. If a christian claims that God talked to him directly and said something then any claim of such christian on behalf of God will be judged by Him. You know that already. Moreover, our madhouses are full of patients who claim that they constantly talk to 'god' or hear voices in head. Do you remember how God warns that any false prophet will be punished by death in the Lake of Fire because they say what God didnt say and they share their desires/dreams what God didnt utter (Jeremiah). I will you some references: This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. Jeremiah 23 Read this chapter again. Post Reply

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