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Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here?
Posted : 27 Jun, 2012 10:43 PM

It's one thing to notice how your pool of potential mates is limited to Christians.

Then it's chopped off by a third when you become a cessationist.

It's another thing when you become Reformed because it shrinks dramatically.

It's even more drastically reduced when you become a Preterist.



So are there any Reformed folk here?

Cessationists?

Preterists?

All 3?

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:41 PM

@Holding-the world means exactly that-the world!! You are the one taking liberties with the text-the onus is on you to prove that the world DOESNT mean what it plainly states. And yr John verses refute what exactly? Those verses compliment my position-you read into "children of God" something it doesnt explicitly state as you believe it does because of your preconceived Calvinist ideas. As you say, let scripture interpret itself-1 John 2:2 alongside John 11:51-52 supports my position-not yours.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:41 PM

"I believe in and worship the God of the bible who gives mankind freewill-yours is a god that forces his will and is the originator and cause of sin."

who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:13

Looks like you just contradicted scripture

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:45 PM

" @Holding-the world means exactly that-the world!"

Yes I get that the world mean the world. What does the world mean though?



"You are the one taking liberties with the text-the onus is on you to prove that the world DOESNT mean what it plainly states"

Just to be clear, you are claiming that "world" here mean all people, everywhere? If so, it is you who have the uphill battle of proving that with scripture.



"As you say, let scripture interpret itself-1 John 2:2 alongside John 11:51-52 supports my position-not yours."

This is wishful thinking and not at all a refutation of the verse.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:47 PM

No i havent-u have and its so blatant u must be blind! John 1:13 is preceded by 2 verses that compliment my position! Read it in context of the surrounding verses along with the others I have given-stop cherrypicking 1 verse out of context. Please.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:48 PM

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:51 PM

The onus is on you-scripture is consistent-when world is used it means what it says-if the whole world wasnt what was meant as you claim, show me your scriptural examples.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:51 PM

"No i havent-u have and its so blatant u must be blind! John 1:13 is preceded by 2 verses that compliment my position!"

I guess some people just make claims hoping that no one will call them out. Here are the verses, now please show me how they negate 1:13

11 He came to his own,] and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:54 PM

" The onus is on you-scripture is consistent-when world is used it means what it says-if the whole world wasnt what was meant as you claim, show me your scriptural examples."

Now this is interesting. Are you seriously trying to make me believe that "world" is only ever used to mean one thing in scripture? I really hope you are joking.

BTW, since you are asking for proof, kindly read verse 17 in the third chapter of John and tell me what the word "world" mean. Please don't come back with the response that the verse compliments your belief. That's not an answer.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 05:59 PM

Are u therefore claiming by interpreting that verse as u do, the whole world will be saved? Are you a universalist now? Context, context, context. Please take your Calvinist glasses off, it taints everything u see.

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:00 PM

I would ask you to explain how anything I said made me a universalist, but I know you won't be able to answer that.

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