Author	Thread: Context
Admin	Context Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 08:15 AM The continual excuse of some in the reference to context,to avoid the truth has no foundation and is sinking sand. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 06:40 AM Excuse all the typos please! Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 08:59 PM John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. The Scripture is clear in this passage...Jesus spoke directly to Nicodemus. This passage clearly states any who believe, there is nothing tricky about some could or could not believe. It does not talk about exceptions to who can believe, it says if they believe, they will be saved. Extremely clear...even to the learned Nicodemus as is evident later when he helps to put Jesus into the tomb. When you add unrelated verses to this passage it becomes confluted. You have been refuted by Scripture as has Bob. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:18 PM " This passage clearly states any who believe, there is nothing tricky about some could or could not believe." Exactly, so why do you keep saying the verses teach that anyone can believe? You admit that the verses do not speak to this issue. " It does not talk about exceptions to who can believe, it says if they believe, they will be saved." I've been saying this for the longest time. You are finally getting it. " When you add unrelated verses to this passage it becomes confluted. You have been refuted by Scripture as has Bob. " Um...all you did was make my points for me. I fail to see how you refuted me. Here was my question... "Here is your big chance. Explain how incorporating the story of Nicodemus into John 3:16 means that "world" must mean every single person and also how it means that every single person "can believe". " Here was your answer... "This passage clearly states any who believe, there is nothing tricky about some could or could not believe" So you switch your tune and agree with me, while simultaneously trying to tell the viewers that you have refuted me. Sorry but they are not that simple minded. You have finally admitted that John 3:16 doesn't teach that anyone can believe. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 10 Aug, 2012 10:44 PM I have not 'switched my tune'. I stand fast in my believe that God loves every single human, that Jesus died for every single human, that every single human has the opportunity to receive the free gift of eternal life, and, unfortunately, many humans will reject the free gift while some will readily accept the gift. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 10 Aug, 2012 10:55 PM I noticed my question to HOH was never answered...it remains for anyone who claims they are 'elect': Again, I ask you how do you know that you are saved? �How do you know that you are 'elected'? Post Reply

First

<< Previous  10

Page : 1 2 3 4 5

Last