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Posted : 8 Jun, 2012 08:33 PM

I = IRRESISTIBLE GRACE (Calvinism teaches that God's grace for salvation cannot be resisted, but the Word of God says it can be resisted):



Lamentations 3:35-36: "To turn aside the right of a man before the face of the most High, To subvert a man in his cause, the Lord approveth not."



Matthew 23:37: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and YE WOULD NOT!"



John 5:39-40: "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And YE WILL NOT come to me, that ye might have life."



Acts 7:51: "Ye stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always RESIST the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."



Proverbs 1:24-26: "Because I have called, and YE REFUSED; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh."



Proverbs 29:1: "He, that being often reproved HARDENETH HIS NECK, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy."

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Posted : 10 Jun, 2012 11:01 PM

I know, and I am not offended.



Calvin works real hard to keep believer's off this site.



This is very tame to compared to the past.

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 12:06 AM

"Holding- You kept mentioning Olson so I thought Id post that. I said I read his book. I didn't say I worship him."

Well you seem to imply that we more or less worship Calvin...I was just applying the same logic

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 12:13 AM

"I HAVE NEVER SAID YOU WHERE NOT SAVED, NOR WILL I SAY IT, I WILL SAY I SEE NO WILLING TO ACCEPT SCRIPTURE BUT THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND THE LORD."

This is a flat out lie PJ...



"BTW THE WAY THERE IS NO REVELATION BY APPROACHING WITH THE MIND."

Bob has already shown you to be in error on this point. Furthermore...I'm curious what exactly you think God created the mind for if it was not for us to think and reason.



"Pj- Have a good night. I don't know why everyone picks on you. I totally understand what your saying."

He constantly makes posts that are not on topic...gives scripture that isn't relevant...thinks he has a monopoly on Christianity....twists people's views....twists people posts....lies...types in incoherent riddles the majority of the time...

You only find no fault because he is on your side of the debate...which is not much of a debate at all. One side brings up old cliches and not much more.

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 12:15 AM

"Calvin works real hard to keep believer's off this site."

Calvin is dead and irrelevant. If you were ever albe to defend your view from scripture...and speak logically, people might take you seriously. Instead you praise your absence of logic and reason(something which you use in everyday life btw)

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 03:56 AM

"Calvin works real hard to keep believer's off this site."



Calvin is dead and irrelevant. If you were ever albe to defend your view from scripture...and speak logically, people might take you seriously. Instead you praise your absence of logic and reason(something which you use in everyday life btw)



Again you try to oppose the truth with the accusation of proving the word of God.



Man either believes or he does not.



Instead you praise your absence of logic and reason(something which you use in everyday life btw)



Your words that have nothing to do with understanding and knowing the truth absolutely nothing.



You shall know them by their fruits.

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 04:03 AM

The word proves itself...You however do not use the word. You just tell other people they are wrong and speak in riddles...which is why no one thinks you are credible.

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2012 02:01 PM

"Pj- Have a good night. I don't know why everyone picks on you. I totally understand what your saying. "



I think the only one picking on PJ is PJ - that is the right side of his mouth constantly contradicting the left side of his mouth, etc. One example would be using reason to make an assertion that we should not use reason.



All of us are trying to help him end his obvious confusion.

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