I have watched BobBobbins for some time now and believe that others on this forum should be better equipped in seeing what may be happening, from a perspective other than BobBobbins� while dialoging with him.
Dear CDFF members,
Please take the following statements I have compiled from 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts and imagine for a moment communicating to your husband or wife in like manner�
Imagine, as a parent or teacher, communicating to a child in this way�
You are the one who is the Pharisee�
For the sake of illustrating your error here�
The entirety of your argument is thrown completely out the window�
Your faulty exegesis of Matthew 19 leads to a totally erroneous understanding of the passage�
My point by point refutation of your article really wasn't for your benefit�
Your confusion appears to lie in not understanding�
Here again, your question illustrates your lack of understanding�
Your thinking illustrates that when you deviate so badly�
Are you yet without any spiritual understanding?
Are you a Pharisee?
Are you a false teacher?
It appears that you are consistently trying to trip up the true men of God with your unreasoned questioning�
Not to point out the obvious, but you haven't even made a feeble attempt�
If you are standing on the truth, then refute my points�
You might convince a handful of fools and simple minded folks with that style but everyone else sees clearly that you are defeated�
Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn�
Sadly, the evidence shows�
You fail on two major fronts�
You demonstrate all of the traits/characteristics of the "stone thrower" from your article�
You are a FOOL, a self described STONE THROWER, a JUDGE without MERCY, and most glaringly a HYPOCRITE�
Your doctrines and teachings are those of an ANTIchrist�
I am trying to understand your position which is schizophrenic�
Perhaps, your lack of understanding is what condemns you�
Maybe you are a STONE THROWER�
All I can say is "wow." Talk about polluting a bored with off topic ranting�
Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn�
Now, you are taking cover behind a woman's skirt�
I am challenging you to come out from behind that skirt�
Be a man and defend your article. Can you do that?
At the end of the day, I believe that you still fail�
In addition, I believe that you have no clear understanding�
You bring an unteachable spirit to the discussion�
Once again, you "gathered" wrong�
Since you have chosen to take a low road�
It's painful to have to be so tedious, but alas I guess you made it necessary�
Exposing your watered down middle of the road back side kissing teachings�
You boast now a victory you don't have! You have never addressed the scriptures i provided by point by point refutation because you are incapable�
Your teachings are weak�
You are cowardly!
With your continued childish cutting and pasting�
You have been warned�
He is merely another incompetent windbag..
Such a notion, in my eyes, seems intellectually incompetent and just plain lazy�
You have a glaring problem somewhere in your exegesis�
Due to sloppy interpretations such as the one that has just been offered�
Rather than humbling yourself to receive instruction�
Out of the abundance of the heart.. the mouth speaks�DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, IT IS IRONIC THAT THE POSTER SHOULD USE THIS PARTICULAR VERSE IN LIGHT OF WHAT HE HIMSELF HAS WRITTEN
Who is the liar here?
Contradiction after contradiction�
Lots of smoke but not much fire�
That you were so lacking in compassion in the first place�
Now, you want a gold star and a brownie for finally getting it right�
Everytime they hit their keyboards, the errors expose themselves. All I do is highlight them for the readers�.AGAIN, CAUTION MUST BE EXERCISED WHEN POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF OTHERS
Yours is an impotent god and a worthless gospel... a god with no power to save�
Rather than wasting "the whole world's time", why don't you go work out your own salvation�
He reasoned poorly just like you�
Is it even necessary for me to quote the scripture to prove such an elementary point?
Shouldn't anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" already understand such a foundational issue?
Personally, I find all of your statements blasphemous-but it�s the logical outcome of the reprobate anthropocentric mind�
That is YOUR god�
I have read many of your posts and I just shake my head at most of them. I never bother to respond since I wonder what is the point?
I really can't help but just shake my head�
Once again, you have come here teaching falsely�
As long as you keep spewing false doctrine/theology�
You are a woman -take responsibility for yourself and for the woman's role in a marriage�
If you are divorced, you are NOT an expert on making a marriage work, contrary to your opinion. We don't need to hear about what you think you learned. Not until you have proven yourself in the context of a new healthy marriage. Those who have been and stay married for years are the experts�.DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, HERE, I MUST INTERJECT THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS STATEMENT AN AD HOMINEM, (MANY OF THE STATEMENTS COMPILED HERE ARE) BUT THAT THE POSTER ALSO FALSELY CLAIMS TO REPRESENT EVERYONE ON THE FORUMS BY CLAIMING THAT �WE� ARE IN AGREEMENT �ANOTHER INFORMAL FALLACY.
ALSO,
SOLOMON, WHO QUITE POSSIBLY SINNED GREATER THAN PERHAPS ANYONE ELSE IN SCRIPTURE IN THE AREA OF MARRIAGE, DID, IN FACT, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, BRING ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD HIMSELF ON THE SUBJECT OF MARRIAGE�. HENCE THE SONG OF SONGS
BobBobbins� words continued:
Post after post, you offer bad theology�
I have no personal vested interest in you one way or the other�
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
Communicating to your husband or wife in this manner?
Communicating to a child in this way?
How might this affect someone? Being spoken to in such a way, day after day, month after month, year after year?
How might this affect a congregation of people�say a church?
I would be interested to know how this has affected some of you?
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
Please notice that if, from BobBobbins� posts, you separate the scripture he has quoted and his textbook explanations of scripture, which can be found on a number of Reformed Theological Sites online (such as the Puritan Board), what you�re left with is a collection of BobBobbins� personal statements, many of which have been quoted above. This would be called rightly dividing the words of a man from alongside the Words of our Lord.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOULD BE NOTED,
From my experience, I believe that out of 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts, which I read, not a single one dealt with what God has done in BobBobbins� own life. Not a single one of his posts describes, in a relational or transparent way, a close, personal, loving and growing relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ, which is where true biblical teaching flows from.
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
I have not written this in order for any of you to belittle BobBobbins. On the contrary, I�ve written this in order that you might better love, in understanding and correction, one of your brothers in Christ, who is not only gifted, but who has given himself greatly to the pursuit of God�s Word on our behalf. I have however written this so that posters will not continue to feel intimidated or taken captive by BobBobbins� textbook theological and philosophical arguments, which, can easily become the whitewashing on a tomb full of a dead man�s bones.
� Love (Christ) is patient, love is kind. It (He) does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.� 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
�If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love (Christ), I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:2
May each of us continue in the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Your zeal reminds me of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. I spent a year working with 3 Native American young men just like yourselves. They were warriors just like you men are. God was raising them up despite the fact they had very rough childhood experiences.
William - You said
"I know it is my responsibility, but I have felt poorly about myself looking to the forums because I am not as gifted as you"
Young brother, I am not as gifted as me either. However, Christ in me can do all things. I study to shew myself approved, as the Lord commands but it is God who gives me the grace and mercy even to do that. Glory to God alone. God will give you great gifts and show you how to use them for His glory. They might be the same as mine or they might be different.
Sometimes, when we see something and don't have a perspective, it can be easy to misunderstand. I often think about the day that Jesus walked into the temple, rebuked the money changers, overturned their tables and drove them out with a whip. If somebody walking by didn't know what was happening or why.. they would have thought Jesus was a pretty bad guy. Things aren't always what they seem to us at first look.
If you have questions, please feel free to come to me anytime.
Bob, I am impressed with your ability. I stand in awe at your wisdom and presentation of your beliefs. In my lifetime, I have never encountered anyone in the world (and I have been to many countries and throughout the US) with the abilities you display on this website. You keep doing what you're doing because it shows your amazing abilities.
Teach - I am truly humbled beyond words. All glory and honor to our Father. Thank you for having the courage and the humility to make that comment publicly. Your words brought me to tears. I am so blessed to be part of this community of brothers and sisters.
And Elisha the prophet called one of the children of the prophets, and said unto him, Gird up thy loins, and take this box of oil in thine hand, and go to Ramothgilead:
2 And when thou comest thither, look out there Jehu the son of Jehoshaphat the son of Nimshi, and go in, and make him arise up from among his brethren, and carry him to an inner chamber;
3 Then take the box of oil, and pour it on his head, and say, Thus saith the LORD, I have anointed thee king over Israel. Then open the door, and flee, and tarry not.
4 So the young man, even the young man the prophet, went to Ramothgilead.
5 And when he came, behold, the captains of the host were sitting; and he said, I have an errand to thee, O captain. And Jehu said, Unto which of all us? And he said, To thee, O captain.
6 And he arose, and went into the house; and he poured the oil on his head, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I have anointed thee king over the people of the LORD, even over Israel.
7 And thou shalt smite the house of Ahab thy master, that I may avenge the blood of my servants the prophets, and the blood of all the servants of the LORD, at the hand of Jezebel.
8 For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: and I will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel:
9 And I will make the house of Ahab like the house of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, and like the house of Baasha the son of Ahijah:
10 And the dogs shall eat Jezebel in the portion of Jezreel, and there shall be none to bury her. And he opened the door, and fled.
11 Then Jehu came forth to the servants of his lord: and one said unto him, Is all well? wherefore came this mad fellow to thee? And he said unto them, Ye know the man, and his communication.
12 And they said, It is false; tell us now. And he said, Thus and thus spake he to me, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I have anointed thee king over Israel.
13 Then they hasted, and took every man his garment, and put it under him on the top of the stairs, and blew with trumpets, saying, Jehu is king.
14 So Jehu the son of Jehoshaphat the son of Nimshi conspired against Joram. (Now Joram had kept Ramothgilead, he and all Israel, because of Hazael king of Syria.
15 But king Joram was returned to be healed in Jezreel of the wounds which the Syrians had given him, when he fought with Hazael king of Syria.) And Jehu said, If it be your minds, then let none go forth nor escape out of the city to go to tell it in Jezreel.
16 So Jehu rode in a chariot, and went to Jezreel; for Joram lay there. And Ahaziah king of Judah was come down to see Joram.
17 And there stood a watchman on the tower in Jezreel, and he spied the company of Jehu as he came, and said, I see a company. And Joram said, Take an horseman, and send to meet them, and let him say, Is it peace?
18 So there went one on horseback to meet him, and said, Thus saith the king, Is it peace? And Jehu said, What hast thou to do with peace? turn thee behind me. And the watchman told, saying, The messenger came to them, but he cometh not again.
19 Then he sent out a second on horseback, which came to them, and said, Thus saith the king, Is it peace? And Jehu answered, What hast thou to do with peace? turn thee behind me.
20 And the watchman told, saying, He came even unto them, and cometh not again: and the driving is like the driving of Jehu the son of Nimshi; for he driveth furiously.
21 And Joram said, Make ready. And his chariot was made ready. And Joram king of Israel and Ahaziah king of Judah went out, each in his chariot, and they went out against Jehu, and met him in the portion of Naboth the Jezreelite.
22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?
23 And Joram turned his hands, and fled, and said to Ahaziah, There is treachery, O Ahaziah.
24 And Jehu drew a bow with his full strength, and smote Jehoram between his arms, and the arrow went out at his heart, and he sunk down in his chariot.
25 Then said Jehu to Bidkar his captain, Take up, and cast him in the portion of the field of Naboth the Jezreelite: for remember how that, when I and thou rode together after Ahab his father, the LORD laid this burden upon him;
26 Surely I have seen yesterday the blood of Naboth, and the blood of his sons, saith the LORD; and I will requite thee in this plat, saith the LORD. Now therefore take and cast him into the plat of ground, according to the word of the LORD.
27 But when Ahaziah the king of Judah saw this, he fled by the way of the garden house. And Jehu followed after him, and said, Smite him also in the chariot. And they did so at the going up to Gur, which is by Ibleam. And he fled to Megiddo, and died there.
28 And his servants carried him in a chariot to Jerusalem, and buried him in his sepulchre with his fathers in the city of David.
29 And in the eleventh year of Joram the son of Ahab began Ahaziah to reign over Judah.
30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window.
31 And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master?
32 And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs.
33 And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot.
34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king�s daughter.
35 And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands.
36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:
37 And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel.
It is obvious none of you really read what I wrote. You read what you wanted it to say. Maybe if you dig it apart and analyze it you will better comprehend the meaning behind what I wrote. Because it was not a compliment.
