Author	Thread: God's Love to those he chose.
dljrn04 View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 28 Feb, 2012 10:41 AM Romans 9:1 I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen. 6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called." 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9 For this is the word of promise: "At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son." 10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was said to her, "The older shall serve the younger." 13 As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated." 14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion." 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth." 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. 19 You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?" 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? 22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? 25 As He says also in Hosea: "I will call them My people, who were not My people, And her beloved, who was not beloved." 26 "And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not My people,' There they shall be called sons of the living God." 27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved. 28 For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth." 29 And as Isaiah said before: "Unless the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, We would have become like Sodom, And we would have been made like Gomorrah." 30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33 As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." Praise God for his sovereign grace. Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:00 PM Pas ho pisteuwn* Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:06 PM Jude, I also think it's hypocritical to say that there is no purpose in this discussion, then you join in an take a side. Are you simply trying to guilt one side into thinking they are being unChristlike, or do you really feel that this discussion shouldn't be had. If you do believe this discussion to be wrong, then why do you join in? Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:09 PM Ya I can read that...heres yer sign !!!! pisteuo~G4100 ~ 1) to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in a) of the thing believed 1) to credit, have confidence b) in a moral or religious reference 1) used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul 2) to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith 3) mere acknowledgment of some fact or event: intellectual faith 2) to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity a) to be intrusted with a thing *** Ima done with Yalls nonsense here...cant have a discussion when folks are just fumin & fuedin...jus aint a loving way or a good way to be...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:13 PM So you admit that you have no idea what the phrase means in the greek and refuse to watch the video that could clarify it for you? Your defense is posting a definition? This is the type of unwillingness to understand that I've criticized in the thread. So many are caught up in their traditions and their own doctrines that they don't let the word speak for itself. Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:21 PM It means everyone believing. John 3:16 never says "everyone can believe". That's simply adding to the text something that isn't there. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 03:26 PM Dr. Vines is excellent in that video. That is the problem with most denominations today they only fixate themselves on one scripture. They do not preach the entire word of God. Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 07:04 PM What is spoken of among many other things in Jn 3:16 is a precept that reform theology completing deny's is the very center of Christianity. It matters not how you twist it the truth is Jn 3:16 completely overurns all of reformation theology. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 09:20 PM onna qoutes this versa al the time Romans 8:29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. I wonder if anyone really reads this scripture, it says God knew ahead of time and those he knew ahead of time would be saved those are the ones he predestined God knowing who would choose the right does not mean he chose for us if he chose for us ther would be no reason to even say he forknew, it would have just said God predestinated but no it said he predestinated the one he forknew, the ones he knew already was gonna get saved AND JUDE IMA GOING TO HEAVEN! but I am ging to post the explanation of romans 9 whichj O have already posted and of corse not one calvinist even replied to is, cause they cant nothing to be said OH YEAH AND HOLDING OUT< NOBODY EVER DESPUTES THAT HATE IS COMPARITIVE IN THE BIBLE THATS A FACT JACK ITS NO WHAT I SAID otherwise why would Jesus tel uis to hatew our familiy ? DUH LIKE JUDE SAID HERES YOUR SIGN Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 05:56 AM Elisha, I will not dispute that there are different types of love in the bible. However we know what they mean given the what the term is in the original language. I find it interesting that you say the bible doesn't mean love when it says love. If that's the case, how do we know that God loves? PJ, I'll only ask one more time. Please show me where John 3:16 says everyone can believe instead of Jesus died for everyone believing. Please show where he died to save everyone. If you still cannot do this, then you need to do some real searching as to what your beliefs are. Post Reply
View Profile History	God's Love to those he chose. Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 06:55 AM Elisha, using the example of Jude in this thread is a big fail. Her sign was separating a phrase because in keeping the whole phrase, she did not like what the scripture said. Choose your words carefully my friend. Post Reply

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