Author	Thread: MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL
Admin	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 7 Aug, 2012 06:57 PM The mystery of man's free will is far too great for us! God said to Adam and Eve: "Thou shalt not eat from this tree." Here was a divine requirement calling for obedience on the part of those who had the power of choice and will. When they disobeyed they usurped the right that was not theirs! "Our wills are ours, we know not how; our wills are ours to make them Thine!" "We know not how; "Yes, our wills are ours to make them Thine." As created beings, that is our only right-to make our wills the will of God, to make the will of God our will! God is sovereign, and we are the creatures. He is the Creator and therefore His is the right to command us with the obligation that we should obey. It is a happy obligation, I might say, for "His yoke is easy and His burden is light!" It is important to agree that true salvation restores the right of a Creator-creature relationship, acknowledging God's right to our fellowship and communion!
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 08:26 AM A lot of nothing
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 08:35 AM A good article on the will... http://www.chapellibrary.org/files/archive/pdf-english/mofw.pdf Thoughts
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:04 AM Yes, I agree with those who disagree with the doctrine of grace, because first of all there is no such doctrine in God's word about a doctrine of grace, the doctrine of grace is man's own doctrine of what he THINKS God's grace means, and even Paul tell us to only stand steadfast to the doctrine of Christ, and all other doctrines that can't be found in the Bible is preaching another gospel, which is a false doctrine outside of the doctrine of Christ. Man made up the doctrine of grace, God does not tell us nothing about a doctrine of grace, He tell HOH About HIS GRACE. Where in scripture can I find the doctrine of grace outlined and explained, so I can read it for myself? So if you answer my questions and explain what God's grace is all about and the dynamics of His grace and how grace operates?... that I put to you, and how you are operating in grace toward PJ, and me, then maybe we can get somewhere on this topic... looks like you're operating in your own free will which is sin because disobedience is SIN... and not free choice to choose follow God's Word covered by His grace by walking in His Spirit and not fulfilling the lust of your flesh to be a know-it all and full of self-righteous- pride, when you really don't know nor can affrim what you say, that can be found in God's word of Truth... not your own words of what you think is truth, or what you have been taught by man, but by what God says in His Word, HIS WILL BE DONE, NOT OUT FREE WILLIE-WILL TO DO AS WE PLEASE!
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:23 AM " Yes, I agree with those who disagree with the doctrine of grace, because first of all there is no such doctrine in God's word about a doctrine of grace, the doctrine of grace is man's own doctrine of what he THINKS God's grace means," How is your belief on grace any different? "and even Paul tell us to only stand steadfast to the doctrine of Christ, and all other doctrines that can't be found in the Bible is preaching another gospel, which is a false doctrine outside of the doctrine of Christ." Umm okay I guess but first you'd have to show how the doctrines of grace are refuted in scripture. " Man made up the doctrine of grace, God does not tell us nothing about a doctrine of grace, He tell" I'm not sure you know what a doctrine is. Are you really trying to say that bible doesn't teach us what grace is? "About HIS GRACE. Where in scripture can I find the doctrine of grace outlined and explained, so I can read it for myself?" http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/gracelist.html It is the doctrines of grace, with an "s" on the end. "So if you answer my questions and explain what God's grace is all about and the dynamics of His grace and how grace operates?... that I put to you, and how you are operating in grace toward PJ, and me, then maybe we can get somewhere on this topic" Ironically, I have posted my beliefs from the scriptures over and over again on this topic. Now you come along and try to act as if I have not answered questions about it. Funny thing it is too...Nobody ever refutes the scriptures I post. They simply change the topic. Yes I gave a link this time, but ask around....I always defend my views with scripture and logic. I'm simply tired of answering the same questions and the link gives you tons of the exact scriptures you asked for. How am I operating in grace towards you? By correcting you " looks like you're operating in your own free will which is sin because disobedience is SIN." Yet you haven't been able to show how I have acted in disobedience. I however, have shown scriptures to prove to you that God does rebuke believers and you conveniently ignored them. You didn't even acknowledge that I posted them. "the lust of your flesh to be a know-it all and full of self-righteous- pride" Telling you that you are wrong on specific topics and showing you how this is so is not usually defined as being a "know-it all" "when you really don't know nor can affrim what you say, that can be found in God's word of Truth" You must be new here or you wouldn't have posted this. Oh wait, that's no excuse because my scripture postings in this very thread show you to be wrong when you say they can't be found in God's word. Just like you say that God doesn't rebuke believers, right? Why should we believe you when I post scriptures that contradict what you say and then you ignore them? " not your own words of what you think is truth, or what you have been taught by man, but by what God says in His Word" Are you paying attention at all? "the lust of your flesh to be a know-it all and full of self-righteous- pride" How dare you accuse or try to discredit a believer. God is not happy with you. Do you see the irony? Do you see the hypocrisy, when your own standard is placed on you? It's not fun when it's turned around is it?
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:52 AM Paul tell us in Romans 2, you judge falsely and condemn others wrongly, you're judging and condemning yourself!!! :zzzz:
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:54 AM And again you ignore Convenient
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 09:59 AM You see and hear this continually on this site that those that will not accept the other doctrine of reformation theology, those that know it to be of another doctine are by those endeavor to follow the word of God are not Christian's Is it the Spirit of Truth, that lies about the children of God. 9 but, according as it hath been written, `What eye did not see, and ear did not hear, and upon the heart of man came not up, what God did prepare for those loving Him --' 10 but to us did God reveal [them] through His Spirit, for the Spirit all things doth search, even the depths of God, 11 for who of men hath known the things of the man, except the spirit of the man that [is] in him? so also the things of God no one hath known, except the Spirit of God. 12 And we the spirit of the world did not receive, but the Spirit that [is] of God, that we may know the things conferred by God on us, 13 which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Holy Spirit, with spiritual things spiritual things comparing, 14 and the natural man doth not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for to him they are foolishness, and he is not able to know [them], because spiritually they are discerned; 15 and he who is spiritual, doth discern indeed all things, and he himself is by no one discerned; 16 for who did know the mind of the Lord that he shall instruct Him? and we -- we have the mind of Christ.
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:00 AM Why did you even ask for the scriptures showing the doctrines of grace? Is it because you assumed I couldn't give them? Clearly you didn't want them....no comment at all on them yet. All of your focus is on me and not what scripture says.
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:01 AM And PJ, as always trying to sound real spiritual while posting something totally irrelevant. Joy wants to tell you that you shouldn't condemn a brother in Christ. Go ahead Joy and tell him. You want to remain consistent don't you?
View Profile History	MAKE GOD'S WILL OUR WILL Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:05 AM I reject your tactics and lying to hide from the truth. Yes the Father, The Son are wactching and The Holy Spirit. And they know all the word's spoken of all. Whether you know it or not you have expereinced the mercy of God on your own behalf, the God that is not a respector of person's and has shown mercy to all.

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