Thread: What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:
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What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:
Posted : 15 Aug, 2011 04:16 PM
The answer is very simple, faith on the individuals part expressed with the mouth.
The Holy Spirit is the one that makes the word of God come to past.
It is commonly thrown around on this forum that regeneration is an act of the holy spirit, separate of man's involvement, that statement is totally anti God and used by some to justify their doctrine.
Regeneration as spoken of in Titus 3:5 is simply the holy spirit creating in man a new spirit, just as the bible declares, but that happens after man hears the Word of God, believes it in his heart and then calls upon the lord.
This truth is covered in detail in the parable of the sower, just as Jesus taught, and as you study the parable of the sower, man clearly has his part and responsibility in receiving from God, and as you can see some fail to receive and the problem is on man's part not God's
What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:
Posted : 15 Aug, 2011 04:44 PM
In reply Jesus declared, �I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.� JOHN 3:3
Regeneration is a New Testament concept that grew, it seems, out of a parabolic picture-phrase that Jesus used to show Nicodemus the inwardness and depth of the change that even religious Jews must undergo if they were ever to see and enter the kingdom of God, and so have eternal life (John 3:3-15). Jesus pictured the change as being �born again.�
The concept is of God renovating the heart, the core of a person�s being, by implanting a new principle of desire, purpose, and action, a dispositional dynamic that finds expression in positive response to the gospel and its Christ. Jesus� phrase �born of water and the Spirit� (John 3:5) harks back to Ezekiel 36:25-27, where God is pictured as symbolically cleansing persons from sin�s pollution (by water) and bestowing a �new heart� by putting his Spirit within them. Because this is so explicit, Jesus chides Nicodemus, �Israel�s teacher,� for not understanding how new birth happens (John 3:9-10). Jesus� point throughout is that there is no exercise of faith in himself as the supernatural Savior, no repentance, and no true discipleship apart from this new birth.
Elsewhere John teaches that belief in the Incarnation and Atonement, with faith and love, holiness and righteousness, is the fruit and proof that one is born of God (1 John 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1, 4). It thus appears that as there is no conversion without new birth, so there is no new birth without conversion.
Though infant regeneration can be a reality when God so purposes (Luke 1:15, 41-44), the ordinary context of new birth is one of effectual calling�that is, confrontation with the gospel and illumination as to its truth and significance as a message from God to oneself. Regeneration is always the decisive element in effectual calling.
Regeneration is monergistic: that is, entirely the work of God the Holy Spirit. It raises the elect among the spiritually dead to new life in Christ (Eph. 2:1-10). Regeneration is a transition from spiritual death to spiritual life, and conscious, intentional, active faith in Christ is its immediate fruit, not its immediate cause. Regeneration is the work of what Augustine called �prevenient� grace, the grace that precedes our outgoings of heart toward God.
What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:
Posted : 15 Aug, 2011 05:07 PM
Let's go to the word as a christian should, and as I posted.
Mt 13:15 For this people�s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:
Posted : 16 Aug, 2011 12:18 PM
J I Packers article posted states ~ Regeneration is monergistic: that is, entirely the work of God the Holy Spirit.
*** Jude asks ~ Ifin "Regeneration" is of GOD/Jesus/Holy Spirit How can it be Monothestic ???...these verses are not on the Subject of Regeneration but concerning this statement above only...not meaning to re-dirrect...just courious bout Calvinist Reformers are All about Monergisim...
KJV ~ 1 John 5:6-8~
6~ This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7~ For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8~ And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
*** I have found/learned that verse 7 is missing from the Reformers NIV Bible...
To the question "What Cause's the Holy Spirit to Move On man's behalf:"
*** Ask and shall be given...Belief as small as a Mustard seed to move mountains...Calling what is Not as If it Where...[Belief] in the Word [Jesus] that All will be Given unto us that Believe unto Him...
