Martin Luther was not a great reformer like the history books teach, but he was a fraud!
Here are some quotes from Luther which shows that he taught the heresy of Once Saved Always Saved:
"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"
"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."
"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."
"your sin cannot cast you into hell"
"No sin can harm me"
LUTHER WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE
Here are some quite shocking quotes from Luther which show that he was a rabid anti-Semite:
"The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows, seven times higher than ordinary thieves"
"We ought to take revenge on the Jews and kill them."
"The blind Jews are truly stupid fools"
"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."
"eject them forever from this country"
"they are nothing but thieves and robbers"
"What then shall we do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?"
"Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews"
"They are the real liars and bloodhounds"
"We are at fault for not slaying them."
"I shall give you my sincere advice: first to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them."
"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."
"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."
"Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them"
"If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs"
"If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the river Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words `I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'."
Martin Luther [ was not a Christian man, ] but, instead, he was a brutal man who persecuted the Jews unmercifully.
The word of God calls Martin Luther a liar:
1John 4:20- If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
LUTHER CONDONED THE DEATHS OF A 100,000 PEASANTS
The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther!
Here is a quote from Luther that will send chills up your spine:
"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"
Are these the words of a Christian and a great reformer? I think not! Luther was an evil man who urged the slaughter of the poor who had revolted. He told people to knock the peasants to pieces and strangle and stab them. 100,000 German peasants were horribly slaughtered in the revolt!
JOHN CALVIN WAS A MURDERER
Not only was the founder of Calvinism, John Calvin, a great deceiver, but he was also a murderer!
Here are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:
"If he (Servetus) comes (to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."
"I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty."
In Geneva, on October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and was burned slowly to death:
www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/11716.html
Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:
"Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that (they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face."
"Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt."
John Calvin [ was not a �Christian�, ] my friends, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!
How anyone can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.
A man named Sebastian Castellio wrote against what Calvin did to Servetus and he made this tremendous statement:
"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine. It is to kill a man!"
Castellio paid a great price for standing up to Calvin the tyrant. He was hounded and persecuted by John Calvin until his death.
Murderers like John Calvin and Martin Luther are not Christians:
1 John 3:15- ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
For more on Calvin see Calvinism and The Servetus Murder
In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were [ sanctioned ] by John Calvin.
Let's take a look at the two so-called great reformers of the protestant reformation:
1. Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer!
2. John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!
The Protestant Reformation was a farce!
THE PROTESTANT `REFORMERS' PERSECUTED, TORTURED AND SLAUGHTERED THE ANABAPTISTS
Link to true accounts of how the Anabaptists were tortured and murdered at the hands of the Protestants:
"The Martyrs Mirror"
www.homecomers.org/mirror/contents.htm
Do Christians persecute, torture and murder other human beings? Of course they don't! The Protestant Reformers were not Christians, but they were bloody evil men.
*** The Truth is NOT an Opinion�Why would Anyone want to Follow ANY man�s doctrine or ways instead of Christ Jesus ???�Thank you and Praise you Father for your Word�Acts 11:26 �And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. [ And the disciples were called [ Christians ] first in Antioch.��notice in God�s Word�it doesn�t say Lutheran or Calvinist or Reformer or Anabaptist or Catholic or�etc�etc�etc�etc�xo
I am becoming convinced that the people who attack Calvin do so because they know in their hearts they are not saved. He convicts them. I read an attack on TULIP earlier that was interesting but unconvincing. I tend to agree with Calvin and consider him to be as great a bring of truth as the Apostle Paul--but having said that I can not say with certainty that his writing are correct, but looking at the world and the relative few who are truly Christians I understand why he formulated the doctrine he did--was it divinely inspired ? Ah, that is the question is it not?
Ifin I was Convicted in my heart by the Holy Spirit that dwells within me that Calvinism is the Way to GOD...I'd Repent ina moment & convert...but thats gona happen...Because Calvinism is Another man's doctrine...plane and simple...no gettin around it or sugar coating here...and We as "Christians" are warned by the Lord Christ Jesus concerning this matter...for me to Accept Calvinism, Arminism, Paganism, Politisim...etc...etc...etc...goes against Scripture and the very core of my being...It is not Calvin that is being attacked...besides he is dead and buried...it is his "doctrine"...xo
Certainly Luther and Calvin were sinners but they helped separate many from the very Satanic:devil: Roman Catholic Church and taught that salvation was a free gift by the grace of God. Both Luther and Calvin were greatly brainwashed by the Roman Catholic Satanic beliefs and many of their teachings had to be polished by Protestant theologians after the Reformation.
JESUS COMMANDS, �LOVE ONE ANOTHER JUST AS I HAVE LOVED YOU!�
Jesus commanded his disciples many times to obey the OT command �To **LOVE** your neighbor as yourself� and on the day before his atonement Jesus added a NEW command �To **LOVE** one another as I have **LOVED** you� and this was just one day before he laid down His life for His friends.
John 13:34: Jesus says, �A **NEW** command I give you: **LOVE** one another as I have **LOVED** you so you MUST **LOVE** one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples!!�
John 15:9-14: �As the Father has loved Me, so I have loved you. Now remain in My **LOVE**. **IF** you obey My commands, you will remain in My **LOVE**,,, My command is this:**LOVE** each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!. Greater **LOVE** has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends **IF** you do what I command!
Ephesians 3:16-19: �I pray that out of His glorious riches He may stengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in **LOVE**, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the **LOVE** of Christ, and to know this **LOVE** that surpasses knowledge�that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God!!�
I Peter 1:22,23: "Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the Truth so that you have sincere **LOVE** for your brothers, **LOVE** one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again through the living and enduring Word of God.�
God's Word further explains what this new **LOVE** is like in I Corinthians 13:2,4-8: If I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not **LOVE** I am nothing...**LOVE** is patient, **LOVE** is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. **LOVE** does not delight in evil but rejoices with the Truth. It always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. **LOVE** never fails!!"
John 14:23: Jesus says, �If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching, My Father will **LOVE** him, and We will make Our home with him.� He who does not **LOVE** Me will not obey My teaching.�
I John 2:3-5: �We know that we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF** we obey His commands. The man who says, �I know Him,� but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's **LOVE** is truly made complete in him!!�
Matthew 28:19.20� Jesus commands, �Go and make disciples of all nations... teaching them to *OBEY EVERYTHING* I have commanded you!� {See I John 2:3-5}
EVERYTHING would also include all the other commands in God's inspired Word from Acts to Revelation as per 2 Timothy 3:16: 4:2: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work...Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
Ephesians 4:15,16: �Speaking the Truth **IN LOVE**, we will in all things grow up into Him who is the Head, that is, Christ! From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up ***IN LOVE***, as each part does its work!�
If we really **LOVE** our brothers and sisters in Christ we will lovingly teach them to obey all the approximately 400 commands of the NT with **LOVE** in the hope of countless eternal rewards when Jesus comes with great power with all His angels.
Revelation 22:112: Jesus says,"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!?
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, For the Son of Man is going to come in His **FATHER'S GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**{See Matt 24:30,31; 25:31-40 & 2 Thess 1:6-10}, and **THEN** He will reward each person according to what he has done."
Daniel 12:3: "Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever!"
Jesus says in Rev 2:17; 3:4, 5, 21: �To him who overcomes...I will give a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.....He will walk with Me for he is worthy... I will acknowledge his name before My Father and His angels.... I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem.....I will write on him my New Name... and I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.�
Well, Jude this is your most ridiculous post and comment yet.
Good grief, where to start?
Do you have a Bible in your possession?
Because the Roman Catholic church forbid Christians to even have a Bible. They LITERALLY chained the Bible to the lecturn for hundreds of years.
The ONLY reason you have a Bible is because of the Reformers.
Does your Bible have numbered chapters and verses???
The Bible never had that until the Reformers got together, and decided that numbering the chapters and verses would help with Bible study, and comparing verses.
So, you owe that to them also.
What church do you attend Jude?
Is it a protestant church?
Well, how do you think that happened exactly?
You see, first you are ignorant of church history.
So, you are talking about things you don't know about.
Secondly, you have been shown LISTS of Scriptures, and rejected them all.
You got a real attitude problem Jude. You should turn that around.
Humble yourself, STUDY church history, and LISTEN to those who know more than you do. Study church history, READ the writings of the Reformers, and the Puritans.
James stated ~ Well, Jude this is your most ridiculous post and comment yet. Good grief, where to start? Do you have a Bible in your possession?
*** Yes !!! Many�actually I probably have more Bibles and Translations on one book shelf then you have selves that hold all your books�but that�s not the point is it ??? :laugh:
Because the Roman Catholic church forbid Christians to even have a Bible. They LITERALLY chained the Bible to the lecturn for hundreds of years.
*** Yes ! That is true�:dunce:...
The ONLY reason you have a Bible is because of the Reformers.
*** James...I luv you...:hearts:...but the "Only" reason I have a Bible is because the prompting of the Holy Spirit lead me to it...and I bought it with my hard earned $$$...I wont give credit to a man for GOD's Holy Spirit work�
Does your Bible have numbered chapters and verses???
*** Of course it does�Yes many translations happened prior to this and in 1535 AD: Myles Coverdale's Bible; The First Complete Bible printed in the English Language (80 Books: O.T. & N.T. & Apocrypha). Soooo he was a Re-Former ??? Calvinist ???...
The Bible never had that until the Reformers got together, and decided that numbering the chapters and verses would help with Bible study, and comparing verses.
*** This is true...See above...
So, you owe that to them also.
*** Yes !!! We today owe much to GOD working through Many people to Preserve the Word of GOD�as it is written in Luke 21:23 ~ Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
What church do you attend Jude? Is it a protestant church?
*** No I do not attend a Protestant Church. I attend Many Full Bible Teaching Churches as well as a large Church of Non-Denomination�I was raised Protestant/Baptist as you well know James�and what does this have to do with anything�Deflective manuvor* ???
Well, how do you think that happened exactly?
*** Because�:rolleyes:..the Lord Jesus calls me to Participate in ALL those Churces�that�s why�
You see, first you are ignorant of church history.
*** No ! James I am not ignorant of Church History and you may by all means call me ignorant�its not the first nor the last name you will call me a name�:nahnah:...
So, you are talking about things you don't know about.
*** That�s interesting you say that..since I am at Odds with Calvins doctrine this is a tactic used to Beat :boxing: Down on a person that is not of the Per�sway�sion of Calvinism�
Secondly, you have been shown LISTS of Scriptures, and rejected them all.
*** I do not Reject Scripture...What I Reject is Calvins doctrine...I read that link you posted on Monergisim�the Tulip�I will be Breaking it down as to Why I don�t Agree in the near future�step by step piece by piece�Hope you are looking forward to my Ignorant findings�:bouncy:...
You got a real attitude problem Jude. You should turn that around.
*** No Attitude�Just Standing Firm and Not buying what Calvinists are Selling�which you already know�
Humble yourself, STUDY church history, and LISTEN to those who know more than you do. Study church history, READ the writings of the Reformers, and the Puritans.
*** James�sweetheart�I am humbled and thats why I will not accept the doctrine of another man other than Christ Jesus...in all honesty�it is the writtings of such men and the conviction of the Holy Spirit that pushed me away from Re-Formation in the first place...and in to the Hands of Christ Jesus�
Please do hava Blessed evening and a Blessed day tomarrow...xo
Have you no relevant (new) accusations? Your �barbs� are Old and Tired and have been Disproven for Decades!
(You write) �Because the Roman Catholic church forbid Christians to even have a Bible. They LITERALLY chained the Bible to the lecturn for hundreds of years�.� (end)
Do you Realize how long it took to (by hand) to Produce a Bible back then? Do you Realize how much it Cost to Produce (by hand) a Bible back then?
It took about One Year and cost $10,000 (in todays money).
Don�t you think that something that Expensive and Difficult to Produce�should be Protected from Theft or Damage or from Being STOLEN?
James�you do a Disservice to Christians that Believe in The True Gospel by Spreading your Lies�in hopes of Diverting the Attention from Calvinism.
Again�more Lies
(you write) �The ONLY reason you have a Bible is because of the Reformers�� (end)
Are you that �Spellbound� by Calvin that you Expect Good Christians to Believe this Lie! For Over 1500 Years Christians had a Bible. It was Father Luther in his Arrogant Rage that wanted to (and did) Remove some Books and Change others.
At least this next Lie of yours is a Half-Truth
(your words) �Does your Bible have numbered chapters and verses???
The Bible never had that until the Reformers got together, and decided that numbering the chapters and verses would help with Bible study, and comparing verses.� (end)
The Truth is that by the time of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, the New Testament had been divided into paragraphs, although the divisions were different from the modern Bible. Read some of those Bibles that you claim where not there.
The first person to divide New Testament chapters into verses was Italian Dominican biblical scholar Santi Pagnini (1470�1541), ( Miller, Stephen M., Huber, Robert V. (2004). The Bible: A History. Good Books. p. 173)
but his system was never widely adopted.
Robert Estienne created an alternate numbering in his 1551 edition of the Greek New Testament "Chapters and Verses: Who Needs Them?," (Christopher R. Smith, Bible Study Magazine (July-Aug 2009): 46-47)
, which was also used in his 1553 publication of the Bible in French.
The first English New Testament to use the verse divisions was a 1557 translation by William Whittingham (c. 1524-1579).
The first Bible in English to use both chapters and verses was the
Geneva Bible
published shortly afterwards in 1560. These verse divisions soon gained acceptance as a
standard way to notate verses,
and have since been used in nearly all English Bibles.
Ifin I was Convicted in my heart by the Holy Spirit that dwells within me that Calvinism is the Way to GOD
James replies:
The Way to be right with God is by repenting and trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. The five points of doctrine NICKNAMED Calvinism are five points of doctrine, and they are NOT the gospel.
Don't confuse the two okay?
Jude continues:
...I'd Repent ina moment & convert...but thats gona happen...Because Calvinism is Another man's doctrine
James replies:
"another mans doctrine" Another brilliant statement by Jude.
Tell me Jude, you are saying that only a female may interpret Scripture properly? Because James Arminius was a man and you believe all five points of Arminianism.
Do you SEE how silly it is to say "doctrines of men" and similar comments? because ALL Christians are human, and hence when they interpret scripture, it would be a "doctrine of men" INCLUDING whatever YOU come up with.
Do you SEE how silly that is?
Jude said:
...plane and simple...no gettin around it or sugar coating here...and We as "Christians" are warned by the Lord Christ Jesus concerning this matter...for me to Accept Calvinism, Arminism, Paganism, Politisim...etc...etc...etc...goes against Scripture and the very core of my being...It is not Calvin that is being attacked...besides he is dead and buried...it is his "doctrine"...xo
James replies:
Jude, IF........you knew church history, you would know that the five points of doctrine nicknamed Calvinism, were believed by Christians all throughout church history.
I can show you quotes on election from 400 AD. I can show you quotes earlier than than from early church fathers who believed that Jesus died specifically for the elect.
So, Jude, it is NOT merely what John Calvin believed. It is what has been believed by Christians all throughout church history.
PhillipJohn does his strange, one liner negative comments, that many times has nothing to do with the thread.
Well, one of Jude's tricks is to post some outrageous wacko article, and then when you confront her on it, she backs away from it, saying that she did not write it.
Well, she POSTED IT!
The Reformers PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD!
PhillipJohn does his strange, one liner negative comments, that many times has nothing to do with the thread.
Well, one of Jude's tricks is to post some outrageous wacko article, and then when you confront her on it, she backs away from it, saying that she did not write it.
Well, she POSTED IT!
The Reformers PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD!
(you write) ��can show you quotes on election from 400 AD. I can show you quotes earlier than than from early church fathers who believed that Jesus died specifically for the elect�.� (end)
Heresy is nothing New! Heresy has been around since Before Christ. Just Because St. Augustine proclaimed a Heretic View�it does not mean it is TRUE. The Church Corrected him and he then repented of that belief.
As for Christians believing this Heresy�it is only those that were Seduced by Calvinism that have continued to believe.
