Thread: Bible Quiz for Arch, Jude, ET, and PhillipJohn
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Bible Quiz for Arch, Jude, ET, and PhillipJohn
Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 07:42 PM
Eph. 1:11 ...[W]ho [God] worketh all things after the counsel of His will.
Q. If God works all things after the counsel of His will, how much
does He work to the will of you, me, Satan, etc.?
A. None.
B. 20%
C. 50%
D. 85%
Is. 14:24 Jehovah of hosts hath sworn, saying , Surely, as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand.
Q. How much of what He wants to come to pass, doesn�t?
A. All of His thoughts will come to pass
B. Some of His thoughts will not come to pass
C. A few of His thoughts will not come to pass
D. A lot of His thoughts will not come to pass
Rom. 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also foreordained to be conformed to to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many bretheren: and whom He foreordained, them He also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified.
Q. How many do you think have been called, justified, or glorified that He did not first foreknow or foreordain?
A. Write in your answer: ___________________
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd; and I know my own, and mine own know me, even as the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Q. Where does this scripture say that Jesus laid down his life for the sheep and the goats
A. It doesn�t
B. It doesn�t, but I just know He meant the goats, too
John 6:65 No man can come unto me, except it be given unto him of the Father.
Q. How many come to Jesus that were not first given to him by the Father?
A. 0
B. 5,000
C. 5,000,000
D. 10,000,000
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come unto me
Q. How many that the Father gave Him will not come to Him?
A. Two
B. A couple of thousand
C. A couple of million
D. Trick question, it says they will all come unto him
John 10:28 I [Jesus] give unto them the (true followers, or �sheep�) eternal life; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who hath given them unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father�s hand.
Q. How many sheep do you think have been snatched from either God�s or Jesus� hands?
A. None
B. 50,000
C. 500,000
D. 1,000,000
Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Q. Considering this, and other related scripture, God having to blot out a name from the book of life would mean:
A. God makes mistakes.
B. Some have been snatched from Jesus� hands?
C. God didn�t know that some of His sheep were really goats.
D. None of the above.
Q. Could a person whose name was written in the book of life from the foundation of the world not have become a Christian (or have saving faith in God if born before Jesus)?
A. No
B. Yes
C. This confuses me, but I�m going to believe the Bible.
D. This confuses me, and I�m going to pretend this isn�t in the Bible (be honest).
Matt. 13 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Q. Jesus himself declared that one of the reasons why He spoke in parables was that the truth might be concealed from whom it was not intended. Is this fair?
A. No.
B. Yes.
C. Who are we to question God?
D. I�m going to pretend I didn�t see that verse.
Rom. 8:28 To them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to His purpose.
Q. How many things do not work for the good of those who love God?
A. 10% of all things
B. 40% of all things
C. 85% of all things
D. Trick question, the Bible says all things work for the good of those who love Him
Mark 14:30 And Jesus said unto him (Peter), Verily I say unto thee, that thou, today, even this night before the rooster crow twice shall deny me thrice.
Questions:
A. Could Peter not have denied Jesus three times before the rooster crowed twice?
Answer here: ____________________________
B. Did Jesus make Peter deny him, or did Peter do it of his own free will?
Answer here: ____________________________
Exodus 4:11 [God Himself asks the rhetorical question] Who gave man his mouth? Who makes him deaf or dumb? Who gives him his sight or makes him blind? Is it not I the Lord?
So, James just what is the quiz suppose to prove? If I answer all your questions will you be able to answer questions I put forth to you with spiritual insight?
The questions you ask do not require spiritual knowledge or undertstanding of scripture, so what the purpose and intent?
Once again you try to use �Clever Wording� to manipulate The Truth!
What I see in these �questions� are questions about God�s Sovereignty.
I�ve already gone over this in another Thread�but�why not�let�s do it again.
(sorry about your �quiz��it looked Fun�maybe you can use it at Sunday School on the other kids in your class?)
As to Sovereignty:
God is All Powerful! There is Nothing that can stand in God�s Way! When God Wills something to Happen�it WILL HAPPEN!
The problem is that you (Calvinist) believe that
EVERYTHING that Happens Occurs because it is God�s Will. God CAUSES Everything that happens to HAPPEN! Not a Blade of Grass moves without God Causing it to Move.
Therefore�when you speak of �God�s Will��there can only be One Interpretation.
This��belief� is convenient because it allows �Predestination�. God cannot �see� into the future because God Creates the Future and thusly God could not have �seen� into the future and therefore have Pre-knowledge of who would or would not Believe and then be able to Choose these people before they were born (whew�say that real fast three times).
This is convenient because then you (Calvinist) can say that Scripture tells us that God �Chose people to become The Elect�.
This �belief� is also Necessary to �claim� that man has no Free Will.
If God Causes Everything to kappen�well then�that mistake I just did was God�s Will and even though I think or �feel� that I have Free Will�it is not True!
Again�this �belief� has to be there in order for you (Calvinist) to �claim� that if
�God don�t do it�it won�t get done!�
In other words�if God does not somehow (I won�t use the word FORCE) get man to �Accept� The Holy Spirit�oh�baloney�the only way is for God to FORCE THE HOLY SPIRIT on man!
Has anyone been able to follow all this?
Calvinism gets quite Convoluted. Anyway�back to my point:
God�s Will shows itself in three different ways
God DECIDES to do something and God does it (nothing can Stop this).
This is the Biblical Sense of God�s Will Be Done.
God DESIRES this to happen (Our Salvation), but allows us Free Will in choosing whether to Cooperate.
In this sense God wants..He Desires�for All of Mankind (His Children) to be Saved. God Desires that we LOVE Him�but God is not going to Force Us to do it. As Powerful as God is�God allows us to say No to Him.
God PERMITS something Bad to happen (Hurricane Katrina).
God has His Reasons for allowing Bad things to happen to Good People. Oftentimes Good comes out of these events.
This is where you Err in thinking�James�but then you have no Choice (that�s funny�no choice)...because you are a Calvinist.
So, James just what is the quiz suppose to prove? If I answer all your questions will you be able to answer questions I put forth to you with spiritual insight?
James replies:
I answer questions.
ET said:
The questions you ask do not require spiritual knowledge or undertstanding of scripture, so what the purpose and intent?
James replies:
That is exactly the point! There are HUGE amounts of Scripture that say that God is sovereign in election, that Jesus died for His people, the ones the Father Gave him, and that mankind is born totally spiritually dead, with a will enslaved to sin, etc.
The point is THEY ARE BEING REJECTED. A certain percentage of Christians will REJECT what they know is true because THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
They like pretending that there is some deep down good part in themselves that chose Jesus. They like pretending that Jesus died for everyone, because it sounds nice and sweet to them.
There are basic truths in the Bible that even some Christians reject, because although God has opened their eyes, and put a new heart in them, they still have a sinful nature, and SOME of them will REJECT things they don't like even though they are shown huge lists of Scriptures on it.
"James replies: Archimedes, when you read the word "all" in ANY writing, it hardly ever means "everyone who ever lived". The word "all" can mean "all of a set" or "all the people in this group"."
So... the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, should really be written as, the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to some men? Or Romans 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life, should really be written, therefore as by the offence of one, judgment came upon all men to condemnation, even so by the righteousness of one, the free gift came upon some men unto justification of life? Never mind that all means all in the first part of that verse, and all in the second part can't possibly be all, because the free gift is only for some.
James continues - "When you post a Bible verse that says that "God desires that all come to repentance", that verse was WRITTEN TO A GROUP OF CHRISTIANS. It was NOT written to everyone in the world, just Christians. "God desires that ALL OF HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE should repent and trust in Christ."
Now why would God desire Christians to come to repentance, as in salvation? You make no sense. That verse was written to sinners, and yes, God desires that all come to repentance, but not all will. Thus the reason "desire" is used. If that verse was written for those future elect, desire would have no meaning in that verse because there is no wishing they be saved. They already are. God determined it and God forced it.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. According to you James, God does not love the world, and neither is this verse written to the world, but only part of the world and gave His son to only some of those in the world; those that God will make believe in Him.
Mark 14:30 And Jesus said unto him (Peter), Verily I say unto thee, that thou, today, even this night before the rooster crow twice shall deny me thrice.
Questions:
A. Could Peter not have denied Jesus three times before the rooster crowed twice?
Answer here: ____________________________
B. Did Jesus make Peter deny him, or did Peter do it of his own free will?
Answer here: ____________________________
This is kind of a funny verse and question to put in this post, b/c common sense would tell you the answer to both questions. Apparently to Calvinists (or those that say they;re NOT Calvinists, but follow his teachings to a T) this verse is saying that Jesus is giving Peter the COMMAND to deny Him 3 times before the rooster crowed. Thats not the case. Jesus was making a prediction, of sorts, altho He already knew that Peter would deny Him. He is telling Peter what would happen, not commanding Peter to do it. Besides, Peter was only asked 3 times if he knew Christ. He probably would have denied Him more if he were asked more times. So, the answer to the 2nd question is, No, Jesus DID NOT make Peter deny him 3 times, He was simply telling Peter what would happen when Peter was given the chance to stand up for Jesus or deny Him. So, therefore, YES! Peter did deny Jesus of his OWN FREE WILL.
John 3:16 is not that hard to understand, yet Calvinists (or those that say they arent Calvinists, but follow his teachings to a T) make out like its soooooo hard. "For God so loved the WORLD (or insert your name here) that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER (or insert your name here) believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everylasting life." If God would have meant this verse to be ONLY for "the elect" I really, really think He would have had John write that God's love and Jesus' death was ONLY for "the elect" . God has loved, loves now and will love EVERY man, woman, boy and girl that He sent His Son to die for ANYONE that will believe on Him, that they should not perish, but have everlasting life.
