Psalm 51:1-10 -- Is Man Born In Sin?

Posted : 31 Aug, 2011 11:36 PM

I would like to Discuss what you guys believe Verse 5 to mean and also Verses 7 and 10. To me it is Clear�



Man is Born In SIN�Born with Sin on their Soul (not Imputed�as some assert) � Verse 5 �



and God �WASHES� our Sin�s away (Baptism) � Verse 7 �



and Creates a New Heart (Regeneration) � Verse 10.



Psalm 51:1-10

New International Version (NIV)



Psalm 51

Psalm 51[a]

For the director of music. A psalm of David. When the prophet Nathan came to him after David had committed adultery with Bathsheba.

1 Have mercy on me, O God,

according to your unfailing love;

according to your great compassion

blot out my transgressions.

2 Wash away all my iniquity

and cleanse me from my sin.



3 For I know my transgressions,

and my sin is always before me.

4 Against you, you only, have I sinned

and done what is evil in your sight;

so you are right in your verdict

and justified when you judge.

5 Surely I was sinful at birth,

sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

6 Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb;

you taught me wisdom in that secret place.



7 Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean;

wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.

8 Let me hear joy and gladness;

let the bones you have crushed rejoice.

9 Hide your face from my sins

and blot out all my iniquity.



10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,

and renew a steadfast spirit within me.









5 Surely I was sinful at birth,

sinful from the time my mother conceived me.



What else can �Sinful� mean�other than Exactly what it says�Sinful��Full of Sin�?



If it means as some of you contend�that Man is Born with a Sinful Nature or as others Claim that it means that Man is Born with Adam�s Sin �Imputed� to him�then WHY DIDN�T THE HOLY SPIRIT ENSURE that that Meaning was Expressed?





It doesn�t say ��I Had a Sinful NATURE at Birth,�� or ��I had Adams Sin Imputed to me at Birth,��.





No�The Holy Spirit INSPIRED the Writer to Say ��I WAS SINFUL��





Sinful�Full of Sin�at BIRTH!



Ask God why that is? Question The Holy Spirit as to the Clarity of this Verse.





Verse 7 reads:



7 Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean;

wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.

��Wash me, and I WILL BE Whiter than Snow.�



What Kind of Washing do you think the Writer is Speaking of? Washing with Water and Soap or Washing with Water and The Holy Spirit? Water and Hyssop will Cleanse you�Water and The Holy Spirit will





�Make your Soul as White as Snow�.





Baptism Removes All Sins and as Verse 10 tells us



10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,

and renew a steadfast spirit within me.





Baptism Creates a NEW HEART�a New Heart AND



RENEWS a �Steadfast Spirit� within us. Baptism Regenerates�Creates a New Creature�REBORNS us.



Does Scripture Lie? What else could these Verses Mean? How Much Stretching and Spinning and Twisting Must be done to these Verses to make them Deny what they so Plainly and Clearly SAY?



I ask you to Submit to Scripture�not to what Man has Taught you. I ask you to Submit to God�s Will (what God Desires of you) and �LISTEN� to The Holy Spirit.



Amen

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