Author	Thread: �It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.�
dljrn04 View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 02:03 PM This verse states the general principle, and a particular example is found in Ezra 7:6, �And the king [of Persia] granted him [Ezra] all his request, according to the hand of the Lord his God upon him.�God controls all governmental policies and decisions. Not only did God cause Pharaoh to hate the Israelite s, he caused Cyrus to send the captives back to build Jerusalem. He also caused Adolph Hitler to march into Russia, and he caused Lyndon Johnson to escalate a war in Vietnam. God turns the minds of a ruler in whatever direction he wants. If now we have hesitated to say that Proverbs 16:1 asserts that God controls a man�s thoughts as well as his speech, Proverbs 21:1 says so clearly. God controls the thoughts, plans, and decisions of men. Gordon H. Clark Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 03:27 PM Well one would have to be lost and still would argue that garbage BY THE HEART OF MAN IS NOT HIS MIND Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 03:43 PM imagine that you denying scripture Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 06:04 PM If God completely controlled all the actions and thoughts of believers than he couldn't *REWARD* them according to what they had done!! IS SALVATION A 100 % FREE GIFT AND ETERNAL*REWARDS* 100% EARNED?? We should only strive for and have faith in TREASURES and REWARDS in Heaven!! 2 Corinthians 4:18: �So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is *UNSEEN*. For what is seen is temporary, but what is *UNSEEN is eternal. Ephesians 2:8,9: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the **GIFT** of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!" Matthew 5:19,20: Jesus says, �Do not store up for yourself treasures on earth {THE SEEN}, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves **TREASURES** in Heaven!{THE **UNSEEN**}� Luke 12:33 adds �Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide for yourselves.. a **TREASURE** in heaven {THE **UNSEEN**} that will not be exhausted. For where your **TREASURE** is there your heart will be also!!� 22 Corinthians 6:6-10: As servants of God we commend ourselves in every way; in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses, in beatings, imprisonments; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; in truthful speech and in the power of God...Dying, and yet we live on, beaten, and yet not killed; sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; **POOR**, yet making many rich, **HAVING NOTHING**{THE SEEN}, and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!{THE **UNSEEN**!� Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to God must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS** those who earnestly seek Him." Ephesians 6:7,8: "Serve wholeheartedly...because you know that the Lord will *REWARD* everyone for whatever good he does!" 2 John 1:8: "Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be *REWARDED* fully!" I Corinthians 3:6-9: Paul said, "I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God makes things grow. The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be *REWARDED* according to his own labor. For we are God's fellow workers!" Daniel 12:3: "Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever!" Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your *REWARD* in heaven!" {See Luke 6:35} Revelation 22:12: Jesus says, "Behold, I am coming soon! My {**unseen**}*REWARD*is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!" 2 Corinthians 5:9,10: "So we make it our goal to please Him..For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him {**UNSEEN REWARDS & TREASURES**} for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad!" Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, For the Son of Man is going to come in His **FATHER'S GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**:angel::angel:{See Matt 24:30-31;25:31-40}, and **THEN**{NOT NOW} He will *REWARD*{**THE UNSEEN REWARD**} each person according to what he has done," Jesus says in Rev 2:17; 3:4, 5, 21: �To him who overcomes...I will give a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.....He will walk with Me for he is worthy... I will acknowledge his name before My Father and His angels.... I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem.....I will write on him my New Name... and I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.� According to Rev 22:3 these 2 thrones will be the only thrones in the Heavenly New Jerusalem!. So Salvation is a 100% FREE GIFT as per Ephesians 2:8,9 and eternal *REWARDS* for God's faithful saints are 100% earned! I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for *ACTION*, and set your hope *FULLY* on the {**UNSEEN**} grace to be given *YOU* when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*.:applause::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 08:40 PM My response was not the denial your post is, have you ever read the new testament without Calvin in your ear. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 02:17 AM yes sir i have, Calvin is dead. My God REIGNS Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 04:56 AM That God is to under the believer's feet. The God that want's mankind to believe he controls man's thought's, was defeated by Jesus. Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. phil 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. That is a long way from controlling man's thoughts. 2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 09:17 AM Hi sister, I think God allowed some of wars happen against Israel, but He did not control their minds causing them sin and stumble. The same way God said that He will gather Muslims states under the anti-christ to attack Israel and Iran is among them. But Gid will not cause Israel to sin. How then He is going to move them? He will allow them to implement their evil plans to reveal His Son the Second Time. Then Jesus will defend Israel. So, God did not caused the Pharaoh to hate. But the knowledge about the God of Israel made him to hate Jews. God is Light. Light causes some plants to grow up and the same sun hardens clay!!!! We harden our hearts if we do not follow God. If we do not live with God, we wither. So, the same God who saves, will judge the nations. Because God's nature is JUSTICE. His justice is love to people. But the same justice will kill people in the lake of fire for raping children, killing children, sexual imorality. And we call this God's justice as LOVE toward mothers of these children.... So, You said: "Not only did God cause Pharaoh to hate the Israelites," But God did not make them to hate people. He allowed them to follow their evil desires and plans. Why? To save Israel and to make them HOLY! Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 12:24 PM Let us be exhorted to exalt God alone, and ascribe to him all the glory of redemption. Let us endeavor to obtain, and increase in, a sensibleness of our great dependence on God, to have our eye to him alone, to mortify a self-dependent and self-righteous disposition. Man is naturally exceeding prone to exalt himself, and depend on his own power or goodness; as though from himself he must expect happiness. He is prone to have respect to enjoyments alien from God and his Spirit, as those in which happiness is to be found.--But this doctrine should teach us to exalt God alone: as by trust and reliance, so by praise. Let him that glorieth, glory in the Lord. Hath any man hope that he is converted, and sanctified, and that his mind is endowed with true excellency and spiritual beauty? That his sins are forgiven, and he received into God's favor, and exalted to the honor and blessedness of being his child, and an heir of eternal life? Let him give God all the glory; who alone makes him to differ from the worst of men in this world, or the most miserable of the damned in hell. Hath any man much comfort and strong hope of eternal life, let not his hope lift him up, but dispose him the more to abase himself, to reflect on his own exceeding unworthiness of such a favor, and to exalt God alone. Is any man eminent in holiness, and abundant in good works, let him take nothing of the glory of it to himself, but ascribe it to him whose "workmanship we are, created in Christ Jesus unto good works." Post Reply
View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 12:44 PM Wow, that is one time I can agree!! Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	�It is however a specific assertion that God controls men�s thoughts. Proverbs 21:1 says �The king�s heart is in the hand of the Lord s the river of water: He turns it whithersoever He will.� Posted : 9 Sep, 2011 12:55 PM no way, did you fall and hit your head? are you ok? someone help someone is posting under Pj's name. Who are you and what did you do with the finneyist that denies every thing written in the bible Post Reply