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Revelation 12 1-2 fulfilled?
Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 08:04 AM

I Harry servant to the most high GOD say, greetings dear brothers and sisters of our LORD JESUS CHRIST











I hope all is well with you, and the LORD is doing amazing things in your life! I have a stirring in my heart to write to you about Revelation 12. I am aware that in Revelation it is very clear that if you add or take away things in that book that the plagues of that book will be given to you. So, I write to you with much fear and much trembling! First, I would like to say that I am not adding nor taking away from the book or Revelation but simply giving an interpretation of Revelation 12. So, with out hesitation let us begin.







In order for a witness to be credible in an investigation, he or she must be sure of what they heard, saw, felt, touched, or even tasted. If a reporter, asks two people what they saw, and they both agree on what they saw, that story is credible, however, if the two don't agree on what they saw, how can the reporter form a truthful story? The reporter could just give the testimony of what both said, but how can we know the truth? I'm glad you asked...we TEST it! We research and find the truth with prayer, and searching.







Revelation 12 was written by John who was called up to heaven. (rev 4:1 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, �Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.� Now, was John abducted by "aliens"? No, he was abducted by angels of the LORD. So now John is looking at earth in a new way probably a way he has never seen earth before...In space! Ok moving right along.







Have you ever wondered how the wise men found baby JESUS in Bethlehem? No? well, I'm going to tell you, that you probably read over it at least once in your life. The answer is in Genesis 1-14 ( 14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:) Did you miss it? Look closer...and let them be for signs! Yes, the wise men was astronomers!!! They could probably tell you where and when each star would appear blindfolded! Remember they didn't have American Idol, lost, the computer, or any other of today's poisons that keep people from looking to the heavens. So, they had plenty of time to view and track each star, planet, comet and what ever else happened in the sky. They knew!







Are you with me so far? On the evening of Sept 28th is the start of Rosh Hashanah, and ends on sept 29th 2011 the Jewish Holiday also know as the Feast of Trumpets. Here is the link for that if you want to look it up and become more familiar with it







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Trumpets







On this day sept 29 2011 Comet Elenin will pass in front of the constellation Virgo...I know...so what is my point. I have one just bare with me here. Revelation 12 1-2 (And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.) Ok let me break this down for you. We know John is looking into the heavens(cosmos) and He talks about 12 stars, and the moon, and the sun. Well, this only leads one to believe with 100 percent certainty that the woman is the constellation Virgo. Virgo has 12 named stars, in her head. Ok, now says she was clothed with the sun. Well on this day the sun is covering her.(remember John knew where she was) Venus is in her womb(Venus is the morning star aka Jesus, aka fertility) Saturn is in her womb, but off to the side as if its about to ambush Venus LOL, and this is interesting because Saturn is known as Cronos, and the story behind Cronos is, he killed his father Neptune, and so the prophecy given to him, that he would die in the same manner. So, to delay his death, he would eat any male child that was born.(sounds like something satan would do agree? Well, understand that Joseph and Mary hand to take Jesus to Egypt because the king of Jerusalem wanted HIM dead. That's in your bible read it! lol) Also on this day, the moon actually drops below her feet. Now, the next thing is, says she cried. Now this is where it gets interesting. Comet Elenin on this particular day enters her face, and with the perihelion. Oh, you didn't even know there was a Comet named Elenin, yeah was a media black out(connecting the dots yet?) I remember in 1986 Halley's comet was all over the media, and my dad took me out and I saw it with my own eyes. It was one of those days that I will never forget. In any case, Comet Elenin appears in her face, as if there is a tear in her eye. Hence why John recorded she was crying. Well, there you have it, please pass this on. I testify that this would be the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me GOD, and with this Testimony I say, that Jesus is coming Soon!







That is all I have for now, I am researching Revelation 12 3-4







(3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.







4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.)







Those are the verses I have been researching so far. There are some things that would blow your mind away to what these things mean. I will tell you this! The government is hiding part of it and I may get into trouble talking about it, but it will be exposed soon by your own eye. Get right with the LORD JESUS, This is NOT a JOKE! CHRISTIANS WAKE UP!!!







I will give you more info as soon as I get all the facts and pray over them. Please, keep me in prayer that the evil one be far from me, and is blind to my path. In JESUS name!

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 09:59 AM

A Shofar Blast



Brothers,



Let�s talk today about the wonderful day called in Hebrew �Rosh Ha-Shanah�.

What is Rosh Ha-Shanah?



Rosh Ha-Shanah (meaning �head of the year� in Hebrew) marks the start of a new year in the Hebrew calendar.

Rosh Ha-Shanah occurred on the following days of the Gregorian calendar:

September 28, 2011 - September 30th, 2011.



The Hebrew Rosh Ha-Shanah is etymologically related to the Arabic Ras as-Sanah, the name chosen by Muslim lawmakers for the Islamic New Year, reflecting the common Semitic ancestry of both languages and traditions.

But the Jewish New Year Rosh Ha-Shanah is not only a tradition.

Rosh Hashanah commemorates the creation of man and the coming Judgment Day of God.

During this day you are able to hear the shofar blast.

What is that?

The shofar is a Jewish instrument most often made from a ram�s horn, though it can also be made from the horn of a sheep or goat. It makes a trumpet-like sound and is traditionally blown on Rosh Ha-Shanah, the Jewish New Year and during the Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement).

The shofar was used to announce holidays and for signifying the start of a war.

The shofar is mentioned frequently in the Torah. The blast of a shofar emanating from the thick cloud on Mount Sinai made the Israelites tremble in awe (Exodus 19, 20). Look when a shofar was emanating:



Exodus 19

Israel at Mount Sinai

1 In the third month after the children of Israel had gone out of the land of Egypt, on the same day, they came to the Wilderness of Sinai. 2 For they had departed from Rephidim, had come to the Wilderness of Sinai, and camped in the wilderness. So Israel camped there before the mountain.

3 And Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, �Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: 4 �You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles� wings and brought you to Myself. 5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. 6 And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.� These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.�

7 So Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before them all these words which the LORD commanded him. 8 Then all the people answered together and said, �All that the LORD has spoken we will do.� So Moses brought back the words of the people to the LORD. 9 And the LORD said to Moses, �Behold, I come to you in the thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with you, and believe you forever.�

So Moses told the words of the people to the LORD.

10 Then the LORD said to Moses, �Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their clothes. 11 And let them be ready for the third day. For on the third day the LORD will come down upon Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. 12 You shall set bounds for the people all around, saying, �Take heed to yourselves that you do not go up to the mountain or touch its base. Whoever touches the mountain shall surely be put to death. 13 Not a hand shall touch him, but he shall surely be stoned or shot with an arrow; whether man or beast, he shall not live.� When the trumpet sounds long, they shall come near the mountain.�

14 So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and sanctified the people, and they washed their clothes. 15 And he said to the people, �Be ready for the third day; do not come near your wives.�

16 Then it came to pass on the third day, in the morning, that there were thunderings and lightnings, and a thick cloud on the mountain; and the sound of the trumpet was very loud, so that all the people who were in the camp trembled. 17 And Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. 18 Now Mount Sinai was completely in smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire. Its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly. 19 And when the blast of the trumpet sounded long and became louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him by voice. 20 Then the LORD came down upon Mount Sinai, on the top of the mountain. And the LORD called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up.

21 And the LORD said to Moses, �Go down and warn the people, lest they break through to gaze at the LORD, and many of them perish. 22 Also let the priests who come near the LORD consecrate themselves, lest the LORD break out against them.�

23 But Moses said to the LORD, �The people cannot come up to Mount Sinai; for You warned us, saying, �Set bounds around the mountain and consecrate it.��

24 Then the LORD said to him, �Away! Get down and then come up, you and Aaron with you. But do not let the priests and the people break through to come up to the LORD, lest He break out against them.� 25 So Moses went down to the people and spoke to them.

Exodus 20

The Ten Commandments

1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 �I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 �You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 �You shall not make for yourself a carved image�any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 �You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 � Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 � Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.

13 �You shall not murder.

14 �You shall not commit adultery.

15 �You shall not steal.

16 �You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 �You shall not covet your neighbor�s house; you shall not covet your neighbor�s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor�s.�

The People Afraid of God�s Presence

18 Now all the people witnessed the thunderings, the lightning flashes, the sound of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking; and when the people saw it, they trembled and stood afar off. 19 Then they said to Moses, �You speak with us, and we will hear; but let not God speak with us, lest we die.�

20 And Moses said to the people, �Do not fear; for God has come to test you, and that His fear may be before you, so that you may not sin.� 21 So the people stood afar off, but Moses drew near the thick darkness where God was.

The Law of the Altar

22 Then the LORD said to Moses, �Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: �You have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. 23 You shall not make anything to be with Me�gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves. 24 An altar of earth you shall make for Me, and you shall sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, your sheep and your oxen. In every place where I record My name I will come to you, and I will bless you. 25 And if you make Me an altar of stone, you shall not build it of hewn stone; for if you use your tool on it, you have profaned it. 26 Nor shall you go up by steps to My altar, that your nakedness may not be exposed on it.�



What was this trumpet blast?

It was the trumpet of God.

It is the symbol of God�s presence.

The shofar was used to announce holidays and for signifying the start of a war.

The shofar of God was used to inform people of the God�s presence.



Another name for Rosh Ha-Shanah is Yom Teruah, which means �day of the shofar blast� in Hebrew. The shofar is blown one hundred times on each of the two days of Rosh HaShanah. If one of the days of Rosh HaShanah falls on Shabbat, however, the shofar is not blown. The day of blowing. This was interpreted by the Jewish sages as referring to the sounding of the shofar.

According to the famous Jewish philosopher Maimonides (Musa Ibn Maymun, Rambam) the sound of the shofar on Rosh Ha-Shanah is meant to wake up soul and turn its attention to the important task of repentance. It is a commandment to blow the shofar on Rosh Ha-Shanah.



The shofar was blown in the times of the Commander of the Jewish Army Joshua to help him capture Jericho city. As they surrounded the walls, the shofar was blown and walls of the Jericho city were fallen down from the presence of God. The Jews were able to capture the city. The shofar was commonly taken out to war so the troops would know when a battle would begin. The person who would blow the shofar would call out to the troops from atop a hill. All of the troops were able to hear the call of the shofar from their position because of its distinct sound.



Yom Kippur, also known as Day of Atonement, is the holiest and most solemn day of the year for the Jews. Jews traditionally observe this holy day with a 25-hour period of fasting and intensive prayer because only ONCE a year during the Yom Kippur they are able to get forgiveness of all their sins if they sincerely repent of their sins and ask forgiveness of people whom they wronged. So, the day called Rosh Ha-Shanah prepares our hearts for meeting with God and calls us to repentance because He is coming back to judge us for our sins and iniquities. And the day called as Yom Kippur is to "seal" the verdict. Whether we are forgiven by God of our sins or we are found guilty until our Judgment day.



So, the sound of the shofar is intended to awaken the listeners from their "slumbers" and alert them to the coming judgment. Today you, Muslims, are listening to the shofar which is blown by God from the pages of His Holy Scripture which existed 2,000 years before the existence of Islam and the word �islam�. God warns you that He is coming back to JUDGE you.



The Jewish laws, or better to say the laws of God, which govern Jewish and Christian life are intended to shape a character of sensitivity, kindness, passion and compassion. Because unlawful atrocities inflicted by humans are devastating and God�s justice is going to stop any violence or war called by Muslims as jihad.



The cry of the shofar is a call of God to repent!

It alerts Jews and Christians and Muslims that their judgment is coming.



On the Judgment Day all the inhabitants of the world (children, men and women) pass for judgment before the Creator.

Who is this Creator?

He is Jesus.

He is the Messiah.

He is Jesus in Islam and Bible.

He is the ultimate Judge of any Muslim and Jew and Christian.

We all can repent and become righteous through the FAITH in the Son of God. The wicked/sinners will be "blotted out of the Book of the living/the Book of Life."

The Son of God Jesus took the sin of the world (millions of sins of Arabs) to justify us during the coming Judgment Day. And if you do not need His salvation through FAITH in Him then how are you going to be justified for your sins?

He is the Judge.

The God Jesus will be sitting upon a White Throne, while books containing the deeds of all humanity will be opened for review, and each person passing in front of Him for evaluation of his or her deeds. Will you escape this Judgment Day? We will survive only through faith in the Son of God!



Traditional greetings during Rosh Ha- Shanah:

On the first night of Rosh Hashanah after the evening prayer, it is a custom to wish Le'shana Tova Tikoteiv Vetichoteim (Le'Alter LeChaim Tovim U'Leshalom) which is Hebrew for "May you (immediately) be inscribed and sealed for a Good Year (and for a Good and Peaceful Life)".



Arabs, Muslims, may you immediately be inscribed by God in the Book of Life and sealed by the Spirit of God for a Good Year and for a Good and Peaceful Life because God loves you unconditionally! You all should escape the Judgment Day of God because His Son is coming back to judge us.





Who is a God like You,

Pardoning iniquity

And passing over the transgression of the remnant of His heritage?



He does not retain His anger forever,

Because He delights in mercy.

He will again have compassion on us,

And will subdue our iniquities.



You will cast all our sins

Into the depths of the sea.

You will give truth to Jacob

And mercy to Abraham,

Which You have sworn to our fathers

From days of old.

Micah 7:18-20





The Son of God Jesus will come back at the last trumpet during the Third World war of the Muslim states under the Anti-Christ.

Then again we will hear the trumpet of God.

What is the last trumpet?

And why did Jesus come back?



Revelation 11:15 says, �The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: �The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.��



These are seven trumpets that are blown to announce judgments that will fall on mankind during the tribulation. When each of these trumpets are blown, judgments of God are poured out on mankind. These are not trumpets for believers.



The Comfort of Christ�s Coming

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,

even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Therefore comfort one another with these words.

(1 Thessalonians 4:13-17).



This Bible passage beautifully describes the resurrection of the dead Christians and the rapture (catching up) of the Church/believers in God.



Immediately after the tribulation of those days � They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds [earth], from one end of the heavens [heaven] to the other (Matthew 24:29-31).



Listen, I tell you a mystery:

We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-- in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye,

at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable,

and we will be changed.

For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory"

(1 Corinthians 15:51-54)



We- believers in the Son of God- will be changed (our bodies will be transformed). We will meet Jesus and return with Him and His mighty Army of angels to Jerusalem during the Muslim war against Israel. Then Jesus will establish His eternal reign in Jerusalem.

But Palestine, Gaza, Egypt, Syria, Damascus, Lebanon and Jordan will be completely destroyed by God during this war in cataclysms.

Revelation 11:15 says, �The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: �The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.��





When Syria and Damascus will be destroyed?

When Syria will attack Israel.

Syria�s Assad threatens to attack Tel Aviv with hundreds of rockets and missiles.

It is a further evidence of a gathering storm in the Middle East and Jesus� Return.



This Tuesday the dictator of Damascus made one of his most serious threats to date against the State of Israel and the Jewish people. He threatened to set fire to the Middle East, and especially to Israel, if NATO attacks Syria, the Iranian Fars news agency reported. In a meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Assad said: 'If a crazy measure is taken against Damascus, I will need not more than six hours to transfer hundreds of rockets and missiles to the Golan Heights to fire them at Tel Aviv.'....According to the Fars news agency, the Syrian president stressed that Damascus will also call on Hezbollah in Lebanon to launch a fierce rocket and missile attack on Israel, one that Israeli intelligence could never imagine.



The good news: the Jewish state is more secure at the moment than any other time in her 63-year modern history because God will fight against the Muslim nations.



Then the LORD will go forth

And fight against those nations,

As He fights in the day of battle.

And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,

Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

Zechariah 14: 3-4



The bad news: grave threats are rising from Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Turkey, Egypt and elsewhere in the region. Damascus and all Arab inhabitants of Syria and Damascus, our brothers, will one day be completely destroyed and the land will be left uninhabitable . . .

Mourn about your brothers in Syria today and call them to faith in the Son of God and repentance because the day of their Judgment is coming near!



Syria is a city with much of its population living in and around the city of Damascus.

Very friendly people live there but they do not know the God of Israel and they worship the false god in Islam that�s why their end is coming closer to them.



Some historians and archaeologists believe Damascus may be the oldest continually inhabited city in the world and there is no record in ancient history of it ever being fully destroyed.

Syria is also the home of many Islamic terrorist groups and its army invaded and has occupied Lebanon for almost 30 years. Currently, Syria (with Iran) is supporting the Hizbollah in southern Lebanon against Israel and Hamas. Syria, like the rest of Israel's Islamic neighbors hate Israel, have invaded and attacked Israel on several occasions, and have publicly called for the destruction of Israel.



Damascus, Syria will someday be completely destroyed and become a 'ruinous heap'. This day is approaching millions of Arabs in Syria.



"The burden of Damascus.

Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city,

and it shall be a ruinous heap"

(Isaiah 17:1)

This prophecy has not yet been fulfilled ... but it will be fulfilled soon.



The Bible warns it will also be a time of trouble for Israel.



"And in that day (usually refers to the coming 'Apocalypse')

it shall come to pass,

the glory of Jacob (Israel) shall be made thin,

and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean."

(Isaiah 17:4)



Jesus will return.

He is the Creator of the universe and people.

All people will look at Him.



"At that day shall a man look to his Maker,

and his eyes shall have respect

to the Holy One (Messiah) of Israel."

(Isaiah 17:7)



The God of Israel says none of His prophecies shall fail:



"For I am God, and there is no other.

for I am God, and there is none like me . . .

Declaring the end from the beginning,

and from ancient times

things that are not yet done."

(Isaiah 46:9-10)





"Search from the book of the LORD, and read:

not one of these (prophecies) shall fail;

not one shall lack her mate.

For My mouth has commanded it,

and His Spirit has gathered them."

(Isaiah 34:16)





"Indeed I (God) have spoken it;

I will also bring it to pass.

I have purposed it;

I will also do it.

Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted,

who are far from righteousness . . ."

(Isaiah 46:11-12)





"Before the decree is issued, before day passes like chaff,

before the LORD'S fierce anger comes upon you,

before the day of the LORD'S anger comes upon you!

Seek the LORD,

all you meek of the Earth, who have upheld His justice.

Seek righteousness, seek humility.

It may be that you will be hidden

in the day of the LORD'S anger."

(Zephaniah 2:2-3)



Have a hard time believing in God? Just watch the news. We are living in dangerous times. The times are dangerous because we live abandoned by the God of Israel. He is against our sins and our prayers do not lift up higher than a ceiling because you worship the false god in Islam.

The God of Israel is going to judge you for this idol worship because by worshipping the Islamic god you violated the 10 holy commandments given by God Himself to Moses on the Mount Sinai. Repent, abandon your sins and conform your life to the highest standards of the God of Israel and your soul will survive the Judgment Day of the Son of God. God is warning us. God says He is doing these things both as a warning sign to the world and as verifiable evidence the Bible is true and His prophecies, said 2,000 years before the existence of Islam, are true.



Men and especially Muslims often forget and even do not know the importance of the city of Jerusalem. No other city in the history of the world has had more significance or surrounded by more controversy.

God has claimed Jerusalem as His own.

He sees her as joyful, beautiful and holy.

God dwells there!

We must pray for the peace of Jerusalem!

And in this city the Son of God, the King of kings and the Lord of lords, Jesus, will establish His millennium reign.



Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in His holy mountain.

Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth, in Mount Zion on the sides of the north,

the city of the great King;

God is in her palaces;

He is known as her refuge.

Psalm 48:1-3



God will be refuge for Israel and Israelites.

Where will be Palestine and Syria and Egypt? They will be completely destroyed.

�Damascus is taken away from being a city,

and it shall be a ruinous heap�

(Isaiah 17:1)

Why?

They do not know the God of Israel and they will gather together with Iran to attack the God of Israel by attacking the children of God, Israelites.

Are you with God or are you against God?

Or are you with your own god/idol of Islam?

The Day of your Judgment and self-destruction is coming near.

But you can survive if you will kiss the Son and obey Him.



Kiss the Son, lest He be angry,

And you perish in the way,

When His wrath is kindled but a little.

Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.

Psalm 2:12



Psalm 2

The Messiah�s Triumph and Kingdom

1 Why do the nations rage,

And the people plot a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves,

And the rulers take counsel together,

Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

3 �Let us break Their bonds in pieces

And cast away Their cords from us.�



4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;

The Lord shall hold them in derision.

5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,

And distress them in His deep displeasure:

6 �Yet I have set My King

On My holy hill of Zion.�



7 �I will declare the decree:

The LORD has said to Me,

�You are My Son,

Today I have begotten You.

8 Ask of Me, and I will give You

The nations for Your inheritance,

And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

9 You shall break them with a rod of iron;

You shall dash them to pieces like a potter�s vessel.��



10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings;

Be instructed, you judges of the earth.

11 Serve the LORD with fear,

And rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry,

And you perish in the way,

When His wrath is kindled but a little.

Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.

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WHO IS THE WOMAN OF REVELATION 12 AND WHO ARE HER OFFSPRING??



Galatians 4:22,23,28,30,31: Abraham had 2 sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the Free Woman. His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a "PROMISE"!....You brother, like Isaac {Sarah's son}, are children of "PROMISE"....The slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the Free Woman's son. Therefore, brothers, **WE** are not children of the slave woman {Hagar} but of the Free "WOMAN"{Sarah}!! According to Galatians 3:16 Jesus is also the offspring of Abraham and Sarah {See Rev 12:5!!}



Just before the coming of 666 and the 1260-day or 42-month Great Tribulation in Revelation 13:1 we read in Rev 12:17; 13:1,5,7: Then the dragon {Satan} was enraged at the woman {Sarah} and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring--THOSE WHO OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS!!" And the dragon {Satan} stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw Beast {666} coming out of the Sea {Or Abyss or Hell as per Rev 11:7 & 17:8 & Luke 8:31}.....The Beast will exercise his authority for 42 months..... He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he will be given authority over **EVERY** tribe, people, language and nation.



And so according to Rev 12:6,14 Satan will attack some of God's saints but they will be protected in God's sanctuary in the wilderness for 1260 days. Then in Rev 12:17 Satan will attack the rest of God's saints �WHO OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS� **just before** the coming of 666 and the beginning of the 1260-day or 42-month Great Tribulation.





And so Revelation 12 also shows that the pre-trib rapture of God's courageous saints at the beginning of the Great Tribulation is a ridiculous fairy tale. Since some of God's saints will be protected in the wilds for 1260 days and Satan will make war with the rest of God's saints WHO OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS JUST **BEFORE** THE COMING OF 666!!



Revelation 12:11: "They {The Tribulation Martyrs} overcame him {Satan} by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death."



God will miraculously take care of His Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints {Just as he took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the Wilderness} even though they won�t be able to buy or sell anything as per Rev 13:17a. {See Matthew 6:25-34 where storing up items are forbidden}� Can God's NT saints go through the Great Tribulation without suffering the wrath of God, as did the OT saints in Egypt when God sent many horrific plagues on Egyptians because of Pharoah.



Remember the 3 Jewish saints who were not delivered from going through the fiery furnace which was heated 7 times hotter than usual. Indeed they went right through the middle of that persecution and the Lord Jesus went through it with them. Yet another example of God sending His saints through tribulation rather than keeping them from it, is Daniel being thrown into the den of hungry lions. He went right through the middle of that persecution, but God sent an angel to close the mouths of the lions. That great saint brought much glory to God in that tribulation.



This will come as a tremendous shock for those who teach the Prosperity Gospel and who are mainly seeking earthly treasures rather than eternal Heavenly Rewards. They teach: If you accept Jesus as your Savior you have a free pass to Heaven and God forbid that you should suffer any persecution or go through the Great Tribulation; which fits in with the Prosperity Gospel and pre-trib doctrines which are designed to increase church membership at the expense of the Truth. When is the last time you heard a sermon on the virtues and courage of the many thousands of present-day martyrs?? And this is probably why there will be a great FALLING AWAY {THE GREAT APOSTASY} at the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 11:26 AM

DOES A JEWISH TEMPLE WITH BIBLICAL SPECIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE REBUILT??



������� Some End-Time Groups who wrongly interpret Daniel 9:27a, and who believe in a 7-year Tribulation, {Starting with a New Jewish Temple} are now spreading false rumors that religious Jews are now building a Temple or are planning to tear down the Muslim Dome of the Rock in order to rebuild a Jewish Temple to Biblical specifications and will then REINSTITUTE animal sacrifices??? However there are several big problems with this scenario: All 21 Arab Muslim nations including Pakistan which has many nuclear bombs would then immediately declare an all-out Holy War on Israel, and the Israeli government fully understands this. I know this for I was a missionary in Israel.� A Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications would then take at least 7 years to build during this continuous war with the 21 Muslim nations. Most of these same End-Time Groups also teach that a pre-trib rapture could occur TODAY {Not at least 7 years from today} which of course makes the ridiculous *IMMINENT* pre-trib belief {That Jesus could come TODAY} a big joke.



Now all those who believe in a 7-year Tribulation only because of the wrong interpretation of Daniel 9:27a also believe that immediately following a CONCEALED pre-trib rapture of the Church saints that the Anti-Christ will make a Covenant with Israel; allowing the Jews to make animal sacrifices in a Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications. They believe that at the end of 3 1/2 years in the middle of the 7 years the antichrist will put an end to all animal sacrifices in this Jewish Temple. However, for over 1,000 years religious Jews have believed that when their Messiah comes He will bring with him the New Jewish Temple and the required Ark of the Covenant. And then the Messiah will re-establish the Levitical priesthood; who will then offer animal sacrifices according to OT Law.



For according to OT Law {See Numbers 3:5-10} all Jewish Priests must prove that they are direct descendants of Levi and these Levitical genealogies were completely destroyed when the last Jewish Temple was destroyed in AD 70. Therefore, no Scriptural OT animal sacrifices could possibly occur before then; since no Jew can now prove that he is a Levite!! And so if you are waiting for this Jewish Temple to be built to Biblical specifications by Jews who will then offer animal sacrifices; you are going to have to wait until this bogus Jewish messiah comes.� Please do not hold your breath until this time!



������ Did Herod the Great completely destroy the 2nd Temple including its foundations around 17 BC?? The following is a quote from "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Page 334, Para 1 & 3:� "And now Herod, in the 18th year of his reign undertook a very great work, that is, to build of himself the temple of God and make it LARGER in compass, and to raise it to a most significant altitude, as esteeming it to be the most glorious of all his actions and this would be sufficient for an everlasting memorial to him....so Herod TOOK AWAY THE OLD FOUNDATIONS AND LAID OTHERS, and erected the temple upon them. Herod's 3rd Temple was 100 cubits {150 feet} long." {The first two Jewish temples were both 60 cubits {90 feet} long as per 2 Chronicles 3:3 & Ezra 6:3.}� So then Herod's Temple was the 3RD TEMPLE which according to John 2:20 took "46 years to build".�



There are some who believe that a {4th} Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications will appear during the End-Times and is suggested in Revelation 11:1.� The TEMPLE IN HEAVEN is mentioned 12 times in Revelation where worshipers are present: Rev 3:12;7:15;11:19(2X);14:15,17;15:5,6,8(2x); & Rev 16:1,17. The only other time that a temple is mentioned is in Rev 11:1; where worshipers are present; so this could also be a reference to the TEMPLE IN HEAVEN. Let us compare Rev 11:1 with Rev 7:15 and Rev 8:3-5:� Revelation 11:1: I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the TEMPLE OF GOD and the ALTAR, and count the worshipers there." Rev 7:15:"They {martyrs as per Rev 7:9-14} are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in HIS TEMPLE." Rev 8:3-5: Another angel, who had a golden censor, came and stood at the ALTAR. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden ALTAR before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand.�



Ephesians 2:19b-22:� "You are members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Jesus Christ Himself as the chief cornerstone {Of the 4th and LAST TEMPLE}.� In Him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord.� And in Him you too are being built {Living Stones-1 Pet 2:5} together to become a dwelling in which God lives by His Spirit.� 2 Cor 6:16 "For *WE are the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD!"{See Revelation 11:1 above!!} Acts 17:24: The God who made the world and everything in it ...does not live in temples built by hands. The �outer court� of the TEMPLE OF GOD in Rev 11:2 would be the saints on earth who are also the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD.:applause::angel:

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DOES A JEWISH TEMPLE WITH BIBLICAL SPECIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE REBUILT??



*** Ima not so sure...but I have a couple Questions...about these two verses...Prophet/Richard...Any one ???



Mat 24:15~ � When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)



Mar 13:14 � But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, [[[ standing where it ought not, ]]] (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:



*** The Temple of Islam / Muslim ( the Dome of the rock) is Built upon or very close to the Site of the Old Jewish Temple...Is this part of the Abomination spoken of in Dan ???...and How long has it been there ???...It Stands where it ought not...xo

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 12:26 PM

DOES A JEWISH TEMPLE WITH BIBLICAL SPECIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE REBUILT??



God's Jude has pointed out the following:



*** I'm not so sure...but I have a couple Questions...about these two verses...Prophet/Richard...Any one ???



Mat 24:15~ � When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)



Mar 13:14 � But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, [[[ standing where it ought not, ]]] (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:



*** The Temple of Islam / Muslim ( the Dome of the rock) is Built upon or very close to the Site of the Old Jewish Temple...Is this part of the Abomination spoken of in Dan ???...and How long has it been there ???...It Stands where it ought not...xo



Answer to Jude's question:



Moses and Elijah will begin their 1260-day testimony {Rev 11:3} 3 � days before the coming of 666 & the 1260-day Great Tribulation and 1263 � days before the Last Day. {*THE FIRST END-TIME EVENT*} Moses and Elijah will warn us of the coming of 666 & his False Prophet. ��� It seems very appropriate that God will send His TWO PROPHETS {See Rev 11:10b} to warn and prepare His saints for the coming of Satan, 666 and the Great Tribulation for in Amos 3:7 we read: "Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the PROPHETS!"� God will allow 666 to martyr Moses and Elijah {See Rev 11:7,8} right where their Lord was crucified. {At the new *HOLY PLACE* where Jesus shed his blood for our sins} 3 � days later Moses and Elijah will rise to heaven just hours before the 7th angel sounds the 7th Trump at the 2nd coming of Jesus.{See Rev 11:11-18}



Mark 13:14: Jesus says, �When you see 666 standing where he does not belong {At the New Holy Place}....then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.� {See Rev 11:7,8 & Rev 16:15} John 2:19: Jesus said, �Destroy this TEMPLE and I will raise it again in 3 days.� This HOLY PLACE is where Jesus became the chief cornerstone {Eph 2:20,21} and we are living stones {I Pet 2:5 & 2 Cor 6:16} in the LAST TEMPLE made without hands! {Acts 17:24} ����Certainly, the old Jerusalem and the old Temple site are NO LONGER HOLY PLACES.�� Hebrews 13:12-14: "Jesus suffered outside the city gate to make the people HOLY THROUGH HIS BLOOD. Let us, then, go to Him outside the city, bearing the disgrace He bore. For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the CITY {THE NEW JERUSALEM} that is to come." {See Heb 11:10,13-16; Heb 12:22; Rev 3:12b; 21:2,10-27; 22:1-5; 2 Pet 3:13} Gal 4:25,26: "Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem {Called Sodom in Rev 11:8} because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is ABOVE is free, and she is our mother." {The New Jerusalem}

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 02:23 PM

The Founding Inscription ~ Inside the Dome of the Rock



Inside the building in classical Arabic is inscribed,



"O you People of the Book, overstep not bounds in your religion, and of God speak only the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is only an apostle of God, and his Word which he conveyed unto Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him. Believe therefore in God and his apostles, and say not Three. It will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from his glory that he should have a son."



*** Thats a really interesting Abomination don't ya think ???...xo

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 04:23 PM

Jude wrote - "*** Ima not so sure...but I have a couple Questions...about these two verses...Prophet/Richard...Any one ??? Mat 24:15~ � When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Mar 13:14 � But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, [[[ standing where it ought not, ]]] (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

*** The Temple of Islam / Muslim ( the Dome of the rock) is Built upon or very close to the Site of the Old Jewish Temple...Is this part of the Abomination spoken of in Dan ???...and How long has it been there ???...It Stands where it ought not...xo"

That's an interesting thought; one I've never considered. However, given the timeline that Daniel speaks of, I don't believe the Dome of the Rock is the Abomination that makes desolate.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. - Daniel 9:27

And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days. - Daniel 12:11

The Dome of the Rock was completed in AD691. And while it is said to sit on the site of the old Temple, IF that were the abomination that makes desolate, it was completed 621 years after the Temple was destroyed in AD70. That doesn't jive with Daniel's 1290 days. Also, Christ said when those living in Judaea see this abomination that Daniel spoke of, they are to flee, not look back, and that there would be great tribulation on the heels of that abomination. I don't believe that has happened. While the Dome is an abomination to the holy site, I can't see it as being the abomination spoken of by Daniel. I believe that Daniel and Jesus were referring to the "beast" or the "man of sin" as Paul called him in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 04:38 PM

Saved71 shared ~ That's an interesting thought; one I've never considered. However, given the timeline that Daniel speaks of, I don't believe the Dome of the Rock is the Abomination that makes desolate.



*** I Agree...and you researched the Dome era...:applause:...it Doesnt line up with Scripture or Timeline but I still found the Inscription...well...abominable...:winksmile:...xo

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2011 11:27 PM

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