Thread: "For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness" (Heb. 12:10).
"For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness" (Heb. 12:10).
Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 06:33 AM
Beloved reader, have you long asked for the removal of some secret, heavy, painful cross? Perhaps you are still urging your request; and yet the Lord seems not to answer you. And why? Because the request may not be in itself wise. Were he now to remove that cross, he may, in taking away the cross, close up a channel of mercy which you would never cease to regret. Oh, what secret and immense blessing may that painful cross be the means of conveying into your soul!
Is it health you have long petitioned for? And is the request denied you? It is wisdom that denies. It is love, too, tender, unchangeable love to your soul, that refuses a petition which a wise and gracious God knows, if granted, would not be for your real good and his glory. Do you not think that there is enough love and tenderness in the heart of Jesus to grant you what you desire, and ten thousand times more, if he saw that it would promote your true holiness and happiness? Could he resist that request, that desire, that sigh, that tear, that beseeching look, if infinite wisdom did not guide him in all his dealing with your soul? Oh no!
But he gives you an equivalent to the denied request. He gives you himself. Can he give you more? His grace sustains you. His arm supports you. His love soothes you. His Spirit comforts you. And your chamber of solitude, though it may not be the scene of health and buoyancy and joyousness, may yet be the secret place where a covenant God and Father puts his grace into your soul�where Jesus seeks to meet you with the choicest unfoldings of His love.
Could he not, would he not, heal you in a moment, were it for your good? Then, ask for a submissive spirit, a will swallowed up in God the Father's. And it may be, when the lesson of secret and filial submission is learned, so that health shall no longer be desired but as a means of glorifying God, he may put forth his healing power, and grant you your request.
But, do not forget that the Lord knows best what will most promote his own glory! You may have thought that health of body would better enable you to glorify him. He may think that the chamber of solitude or the bed of languishing most produce glory to his Name. The patience, resignation, meek submission, child-like acquiescence, which his blessed Spirit through this means works in your soul, may more glorify him than all the active graces that ever were brought into exercise.
"For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness" (Heb. 12:10).
Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 03:53 PM
Hebrews 12:9-11
9~ Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
*** 9 - Father of spirits The passage is complex. Paul stressed the importance of not walking according to the flesh but according to the spirit to avoid condemnation (Rom 8:1). Here we see this contrast in discussing discipline from God. The flesh is our inherited human nature (Jer 13:23). The spirit, as used here, is a portion of the divine nature (2 Pet 1:4). Which we may receive from the Holy Spirit when we are born again (John 3:5).
10~ For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11~ Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
*** 11 - Chastening [disciplining] Our spiritual Father refines us for the development of our character (Mal 3:3, Zech 13:9). Notice the flow of thought in the table below.
The wording in the table follows the Interlinear Bible by J.P Green and is thus closer to the Greek text.
Verse 9 (our submission to discipline)
Respect for ~ Fathers of our flesh
Subject to ~ Father of [our] spirits (God)
Verse 10 (process and reward)
Correctors who help us ~ For a few days [mortal life]
"For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness" (Heb. 12:10).
Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 05:09 PM
Exactly, we ask for discipline (trial) to be removed, because it is unbecoming to our flesh. We do not see the big picture what God is working in us, our sanctification.
