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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 07:43 AM

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Fruit of the Spirit:

Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 06:42 AM





It is has been said that in this topic that The word spirit refers to the Holy Spirit, Consider this does the Holy spirit produce fruit or is he Love ,Joy peace, longsuffering,gentlenesss, goodness,



Gal 5: 22But what happens when we live God's way? He brings gifts into our lives, much the same way that fruit appears in an orchard�things like affection for others, exuberance about life, serenity. We develop a willingness to stick with things, a sense of compassion in the heart, and a conviction that a basic holiness permeates things and people.



Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,



Galatians 5:22 (New King James Version)



Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,



Galatians 5:22



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Gal 5:22But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,



Many take this word Spirit to be the Holy Spirit, if you will follow the context you will see that is man's spirit that is being spoken of, when man is born again all receive a measure of faith as in general faith, all receive the same measure it is man that is to grow in these attributes, man has been given these items but it is in understanding and know the topic of faith, will a believer ever under these truths.



Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.



We all know fruit grow's on the branches and in this context Jesus exhorts us to produce more fruit.



In order to be a doer of the word we have to understand it and the topic matter.



The Holy Spirit is always man's helper never his doer.



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Fruit of the Spirit:

Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 06:49 AM





in the greek spirit is pneuma







1) the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son







a) sometimes referred to in a way which emphasises his personality and character (the "Holy" Spirit)







b) sometimes referred to in a way which emphasises his work and power (the Spirit of "Truth")







c) never referred to as a depersonalised force







2) the spirit, i.e. the vital principal by which the body is animated







a) the rational spirit, the power by which the human being feels, thinks, decides







b) the soul







3) a spirit, i.e. a simple essence, devoid of all or at least all grosser matter, and possessed of the power of knowing, desiring, deciding, and acting







a) a life giving spirit







b) a human soul that has left the body







c) a spirit higher than man but lower than God, i.e. an angel







1) used of demons, or evil spirits, who were conceived as inhabiting the bodies of men







2) the spiritual nature of Christ, higher than the highest angels and equal to God, the divine nature of Christ







4) the disposition or influence which fills and governs the soul of any one







a) the efficient source of any power, affection, emotion, desire, etc.







5) a movement of air (a gentle blast)







a) of the wind, hence the wind itself







b) breath of nostrils or mouth







again get over yourself and your humanistic views. It is of God, his holy spirit that worketh love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith







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This is a statement of one Given to the flesh and being dominated by the mind and thus sowing to corruption.





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No this is from the bible to the heretic the denies God's inspired infallible word





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Bahira first and foremost the gifts of the spirit are not in Christians that have not received the Gift of The Holy Ghost.







You keep saying the holy spirit is the doer of the word, well Jesus says that man will deceive and delude himself.







The problem here is not knowing and understanding the topic of faith.







These truths are only spiritually discerned.



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pj get over yourself and your humanism/ finneyism, and read God's word.







The spirit is given at conversion. I know you like to think more highly of yourself, but you need to give up your prideful contentious heart and turn to the Almighty God of the bible.



Hello bahira, by the grace of God they are evident in my life. Praise God for his mercy and lov



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Fruit of the Spirit:

Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 07:35 AM





Well Donna that statement is in denial of the word also.



One does not receive the Holy Spirit, the gift of God, the promise of God in the new birth, he receives a measure of the holy spirit within but is a separate act of faith and you will find this to be the number one cause of some much carnality in the body of Christ.



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Donna maybe you misread the response.







pj get over yourself and your humanism/ finneyism, and read God's word.



The spirit is given at conversion. I know you like to think more highly of yourself, but you need to give up your prideful contentious heart and turn to the Almighty God of the bible.



Notice Donna I did not say anything about receiving Jesus.



My statement was receiving the Gift of The Holy Ghost, I did not say anything about the new birth, i am not ashamed for I have rightly divided the word of truth.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy.



I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.



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This is the second time you have denied, which is a common practice of Calvinist.





Now you say it is not true, so you prove the bible in error.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 07:46 AM

2 Timothy 4:8 Finally the crown of righteousness:angel: is reserved for me. The Lord, the righteous Judge, will award it to me in that day�and not to me only, but also to all who have set their affection on his appearing.







1 Corinthians 4:5 So then, do not judge anything before the time. Wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light:glow: the hidden things of darkness and reveal the motives of hearts :angeldevil::hearts:. Then each will receive recognition from God.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 07:50 AM

Romans 14:10-12 But you who eat vegetables only�why do you judge your brother or sister? And you who eat everything�why do you despise your brother or sister? For we will all stand :waving:before the judgment seat of God. 11 For it is written, �As I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow to me:bow:, and every tongue will give praise to God.� 12 Therefore, each of us will give an account of himself to God:angel:.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 07:58 AM

Galatians 5:19-21, 26 Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality:nicenurse:, impurity, depravity, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostilities:devil:, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger:devil:, selfish rivalries, dissensions, factions, 21 envying:devil:, murder:devil:, drunkenness:toomuch:, carousing:buddies:, and similar things. I am warning you, as I had warned you before: Those who practice such things:angeldevil: will not inherit the kingdom of God!:angel:� 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, being jealous of one another.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 08:01 AM

John 15:1-7 �I am the true vine and my Father is the gardener.:waving: 2 He takes away every branch that does not bear fruit in me:angel:. He prunes every branch that bears fruit so that it will bear more fruit. 3 You are clean already because of the word that I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me:waving:, and I will remain in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in me.

5 �I am the vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in me�and I in him�bears much fruit:angel:, because apart from me you can accomplish nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is thrown out like a branch, and dries up:angeldevil:; and such branches are gathered up and thrown into the fire, and are burned up. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want, and it will be done for you.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 08:03 AM

Galatians 5:15 However, if you continually bite and devour:angeldevil: one another, beware that you are not consumed :angeldevil:by one another.

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 08:05 AM

Hebrews 12:15-17 See to it that no one comes short of the grace:glow: of God, that no one be like a bitter root :angeldevil:springing up and causing trouble:angeldevil:, and through him many become defiled. 16 And see to it that no one becomes an immoral or godless :angeldevil:person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that later when he wanted to inherit the blessing:bow:, he was rejected, for he found no opportunity for repentance, although he sought the blessing with tears.:prayingm:

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 08:09 AM

1 Corinthians 11:28-32 A person should examine himself first:angel:, and in this way let him eat the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For the one who eats and drinks without careful regard for the body eats and drinks judgment against himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and sick, and quite a few are dead. 31 But if we examined ourselves:angel:, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned with the world.:angeldevil:

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 08:10 AM

1 Corinthians 4:5 So then, do not judge anything before the time. Wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the motives of hearts:devil::hearts:. Then each will receive recognition from God.:angel:

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 01:55 PM

Great Scripture posts Bahira!!:applause::angel::angel::peace:

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You should be ashamed for making a mockery of God and his word. Stop spreading such lies of your finneyism that has no scripture to prove such heresy. I want to see scripture to back up this rightly dividing scripture. This is the second time i have asked you to prove your heresy.
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 03:32 PM

Bahira one would have to assume you are trying to say something, do you suppose you could explain yourself, for i remember you telling me you did not read my post for the are always wrong, they are in agreement with scripture but wrong for you.

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