Psalms 10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.
Psalms 119:155 Salvation [is] far from the wicked, For they do not seek Your statutes.
Jeremiah 18:12 And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
John 1:10-11 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. (11) He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
John 3:19-20 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (20) For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
John 5:39-40 39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Romans 3:11-12 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
John 8:43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.
John 8:47 He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
Isa 65:1 I am sought of [them that] asked not [for me]; I am found of [them that] sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation [that] was not called by my name.
Isaiah 66:3e-4 (3e) "Just as they have chosen their own ways, And their soul delights in their abominations, (4) So will I choose their delusions, And bring their fears on them; Because, when I called, no one answered, When I spoke they did not hear; But they did evil before My eyes, And chose that in which I do not delight."
Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
John 14:17 "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
Romans 8:5-9 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. (6) For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. (7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. (8) So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. (9) But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
{In verse 7, "nor indeed can be" means "for it is unable to do so".}
{Unregenerate man is unable to do what is "pleasing to God"; namely, repent & believe}
John 8:43-47 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. (44) You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. (45) But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. (46) Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? (47) He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
2 Peter 2:10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
Noah: Gen. Chap.6-8 (How many people chose to go on the ark of their own free will?)
Genesis 6:5-8 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (6) And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. (7) So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." (8) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Genesis 7:1, 5, 13, 16 (1) Then the LORD said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen [that] you [are] righteous before Me in this generation. (5) And Noah did according to all that the LORD commanded him. (13) On the very same day Noah and Noah's sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark (16) So those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him; and the LORD shut him in.
Luke 14:15-24 Now when one of those who sat at the table with Him heard these things, he said to Him, "Blessed is he who shall eat bread in the kingdom of God!"
(16) Then He said to him, "A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, (17) "and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, "Come, for all things are now ready." (18) "But they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said to him, "I have bought a piece of ground, and I must go and see it. I ask you to have me excused." (19) "And another said, "I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me excused." (20) "Still another said, "I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come." (21) "So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, "Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in here the poor and the maimed and the lame and the blind." (22) "And the servant said, "Master, it is done as you commanded, and still there is room." (23) "Then the master said to the servant, "Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled." (24) "For I say to you that none of those men who were invited shall taste my supper."
{ALL of those who were invited rejected Christ's offer. God, thus, chose (elected) others to attend the supper. Otherwise, God would have been eating by Himself. God had to draw (compel) them before they would attend the supper. Without God's intervention, man will always reject God and choose sin instead, as this parable illustrates.}
Luke 23:13, 18-21 (13) Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, ...
(18) And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" (19) who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder. (20) Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. (21) But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"
Luke 23:24-25 So Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they requested. (25) And he released to them the one they requested, who for rebellion and murder had been thrown into prison; but he delivered Jesus to their will.
{Man's "free will" in action; choosing a murderer (sin) rather than Christ. Man's "free will" is shown here wanting to rid themselves of Christ by killing Him. So much for man's "free choice" while in his natural, unsaved state}
John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him ; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father ."
"Some people say that people Can Not Seek the Lord."
But God says otherwise...
Deuteronomy 4:29 - But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find [him], if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Speaking of King Rehoboam in 2 Chronicles 12:14 - And he did evil, because he prepared not his heart to seek the LORD.
Amos 5:8 - [Seek him] that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD [is] his name:
John 8:43-47 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. (44) You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. (45) But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. (46) Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? (47) He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
:waving:...Its the Free Will "Choice" of a Person that calls or states that Another Person is of Devil...I truely do not "SEE" any SEEKING of GOD here Free Will or Other wise...jus some food for thought...:prayingf:...xo
"Some people say that people Can Not Seek the Lord."
But God says otherwise...
Deuteronomy 4:29 - But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find [him], if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
James replies:
This does NOT show ability! "IF" does not mean you can.
IF you give me ten million dollars I will build you a house.
Now, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? NO!
Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
James replies:
This is a COMMAND TO God's chosen people, not a statement that all mankind has the ability.
Speaking of King Rehoboam in 2 Chronicles 12:14 - And he did evil, because he prepared not his heart to seek the LORD.
James replies:
This does NOT say that mankind has the ability to seek God.
Amos 5:8 - [Seek him] that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD [is] his name:
James replies:
This does NOT say that everyone or anyone has the ABILITY to seek God.
Good grief, talk about making stuff up!!
The apostle Paul SAYS that "NO ONE seeks for God" and that natural man is "UNABLE to understand the things of God" and Jesus in John 6 SAYS that "NO ONE CAN COME TO ME..."
And you IGNORE ALL THAT SO YOU CAN PRETEND EVERYONE HAS A FREE WILL!!
