This is the question I have asked Bahira a number of times to answer, her reply is always something like this "I do not call all christians barking dogs do you bark? anyone who says so is commiting lie against me"or something to that effect.
anyway what she will never adress for me is does she think all Christians WHO CLAIM TO SPEAK IN TOUNGES ARE BARKING DOGS OR DEMON CONTROLED!!
Please Bahira PJ and I want to know, because as long as you keep saying we insult you , then you think its ok to insult us and then treat us like we are stupid and we dont know what or who you are reffering to, so again please please dont skirtr around by answering a question with a question like you have been ( " I ask do you bark? you say no . so what is problem?") just a simple yes or no answer will do..
again so you cant misunderstand.. Do you think anyone who claims to speak in tounges is demon controled or possesd or that they are like your barking dogs?
and as far as dogs go, when will you answer me my question I have asked you over and over, do you think all Christians who claim to speak in tounges are demonic or that they are these barking dogs? you will never answer because that means that you admit you call PJ and I Barking Dogs and when you refer to barking dogs you in fact are slandering us, so answer the question please..
� Bahira calls me a dog and then says I insult her, really.
People get offended because of the truth.�
About dogs I use this word to describe barking Christians in video and in churches.
I said to James: �I always say: the dog barks, when the stone hits it.�
Do I ALWAYS say to pj that the he is the dog who barks, then the stone hits it�????
No, this is his slander and misunderstanding of what I say.
I do not say ALWAYS such word expression to him. I said in my early posts: �I USUALLY say so�. So, it does not relate to him.
What did I mean by saying:�I always say: the dog barks, when the stone hits it.�
I meant by saying that to James that what he said (his message) hit the target that�s why they both are so aggressive.
So, his lie is a sin and I call him to repentance again and again. If somebody does not understand what I mean, they can ask me directly. For example: Do you call pj as dog? No. I call dogs as dogs and describe how dogs barks and attacks when the stone hits them. Again: Do I call pj or this lady as dogs? No. I call the people in video as barking people because they actually bark. If you want to see this video I will show you that again.
Why did I say to James: �I always say: the dog barks, when the stone hits it.�
See there I told you Bahira you refuse to answer my question and so I say to you that your refusal to answer is an admission that you do think that, so therefor every time you talk about barking dogs we all know you are including PJ and I in your comment as we both have the Holy ghost and we both speak in tounges
We all agree that it is possible that people speak today in the tongues. But we have not met such people yet. What we see in our Churches is just crazy barking. And this barking cannt be the language of the Holy Spirit. Check thread I posted for you a link where you can see such barking.
So, what I say: those who bark will be judged by God. Because they allowed themselves to be deceived by other 'christians' and they deceive other people. God does not bark because the Holy Spirit is not dog!!!!
God will start the judgment from the House of God.
One of my friends was among them for many years and even until today he cannt get free from madness which he saw there and did with them!!!
Do you want to see what demons make in the so-called christian 'churches'?
I am called by my God to speak about such madness in the churches to show them what demons do among them and reasons why they all will get to the lake of Fire after their Judgment!
There will be a great FALLING AWAY {THE GREAT APOSTASY} at the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
And we are able to see it in so-called christian churches and among fake-christians/so-called-christians/ self-born christians!
God does not call us to be unreasonable and mad! The christian faith is reasonable. There is NO madness in our God and there should be no madness in His sons!
But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy . . . having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
� 2 Timothy 3:1�2, 5
An oxymoron basically is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms, like "jumbo shrimp," "virtual reality," "friendly fire," and "found missing." Then there is one of my favorites: "fresh frozen." You might go into a restaurant and ask, "Is this fish fresh?"
"It is fresh frozen," the server will say.
"Well, is it fresh?" you will ask again.
"It is fresh frozen." Why don't they just tell you that it is old?
Then there are other classic oxymorons, like "exact estimate" and "airline food." We can add "genuine imitation" to that list as well.
The idea of genuine imitation is what Jesus conveys in a story known as the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares. Prior to Jesus' return, the devil effectively will flood the market with cheap imitations of the real thing. In fact, there will be so many genuine imitations that people will have a difficult time distinguishing the true from the false.
Why will the devil do this? Because it is effective. When it is revealed that a so-called Christian has been living a double life that is a complete contradiction of his or her profession of faith, some people might think, Well, that person is a hypocrite, so I am not going to be a Christian either. I am going to turn my back on this. They are all just a bunch of phonies. They fell for the devil's trap.
So according to Jesus' parable, there will be many in the last days who believe�and many who will fake belief. They will sit side by side in the same churches. They will sing the same songs. They will read the same Bibles. They will say the same things, to some degree. But in reality, these people are never really believers to begin with.
Why do people buy into these crazy teachings? Don't they know any better? The Bible tells us that in the last days, there will literally be a cult explosion�an ever-growing plethora of every belief system possible except the right one.
The Bible tells us that Satan will:
"Use every kind of wicked deception to fool those who are on their way to destruction because they refuse to believe the truth that would save them. So God will send great deception upon them, and they will believe all these lies. Then they will be condemned for not believing the truth and for enjoying the evil they do" (2 Thess. 2:10-12 NLT).
You know something is popular when you start seeing the knock-offs or imitations. The Devil is not very original. He has always seen the value of copying something, and, in so doing, confusing the issue. It seems that whenever there is a genuine work of the Spirit of God, Satan will have his imitation.
Consider Pharaoh's magicians, who were able to duplicate the miracles of Moses, such as the plague of blood in the Nile, and the plague of frogs (see Exodus 7-8).
Jesus told the parable of the wheat and the tares (Matthew 13:24-30). In the story, a man planted wheat in a field, but his enemy came at night and planted tares (or the darnel seed) in the same field. Initially, this tare looks just like the wheat. But as time goes by, it actually uproots the wheat and ultimately destroys it.
These days while God is working, the devil is planting his tares. When they are exposed, people say, "See�they are all hypocrites!" As Peter said, "Christ and his true way will be slandered" through this. Yet, the presence of so many imitations should actually prove that there is an Original.
Whatever we have as Christians, you can be sure that Satan has a counterfeit version:
He has a false gospel that tells you that you can make up the rules as you go.
Along with this false gospel comes a false hope. People think that because they have gone through a certain religious ritual, they are eternally secure.
He has a false messiah. Satan always wanted the top job in heaven, and he has never gotten over losing his once exalted position. In these last days, he will thrust his imitation messiah�the Antichrist� on the world scene.
Here we see Satan's unholy trinity:
Satan, imitating God (and, for a short time, having the worship of people worldwide)
The Antichrist masquerading as the Son
The false prophet impersonating the Holy Spirit
The Work of the Antichrist
The Antichrist will bring about a new religious system that will accommodate everyone. We are currently in the midst of a cult explosion. Whether it be Dianetics, EST, goddess worship, reincarnation, astrology, holistic healing, or any of a hundred consciousness raising techniques of our day�the modern age is on a search for some mystical divine unity. The times are ripe for a world religion.
we ALL listen to the words of God (seed of God) but WE determine what kind of soil our heart will be!!!
We all need to make a real commitment to God Jesus because He is going to judge not only what we say but our motives!
That's why if our mouth will bark like these people bark in this video I provided you above with, then God will judge not only your barking but WHY did you decide to bark!
Is it a genuine imitation of God?!
A barking god is NOT God of Israel. My Father does not bark. He is teaching me to be separated from the madness of the world! I am able to see and understand what is madness and how to live correct.
Why? Because if you are born of God, you KNOW God. And God is not a barking dog! And His HOLY sons are not barking as these fake-churches do! Knowing God, we do what our God says.
Those who bark are demons-possessed. If God is livening in you, demons cannt live in you.
If those who bark in you are NOT the HOLY God of Israel, then who bark in you are demons! It is the manifestation of demons! We can clearly see it on this video!
You should GET RID of your demons TURNING your heart to God, repenting and asking Him to forgive your sins and connections with demons. Then you will be FREE.
If your god is a dog then HOW are you going to get to the Kingdom of God of Israel?!
Get out of your dogs living inside of you and be a son not of demons but the HOLY God of Israel! His sons said:
But everything should be done (in the Church) decently and in orderly way. 1 Corinthians 14:40
If you do not know what is decently then you SHOULD know it. Because God is going to judge your actions and motives. There is NO MADNESS in this God!
No, indeed Bahira, there is no way dogs can bark in people or any of this foolishness that you see many of these people doing, that is not scriptural or of God, everything God does has a spiritual message that leads to salvation, not entertainment or a showcase.
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Therefore, if we know these things are not of God based on our knowledge of the spiritual things of God found in His holy Word, then all we can do is pray for them, and leave them alone.
There is so much foolishness that is going on that people claim to be of God, that is not of God according to His word and our knowledge, so I have learned to leave those things along that I cannot change, and change those things I can by using God's word to base my call for chance.
If its not in God's word, then I don't see how it can be of God. Because there is nothing new under the sun, and everything that God wants us to know is written in His word, including those things and the works of the Holy Spirit, these works do not change, becaue od doesn't change in character.
Many people use the passage of John chapter 14:verse 20, where Jesus says, truly, truly, I say to you, the person who believes in Me, the works that I do this person will do also, and GREATER works than these shall he do, because I go to my Father. They use this passage to justify their foolishness of out of control behavior as if the Holy Spirit is doing this work in them. And to say this so-called out of control laughter and all this other mess is of the Holy Spirit. But what they don't understand is that the greater works Jesus is speaking about is much in reference to what the apostles did in quantity and that Jesus is not speaking about stuff that has no spiritual meaning or value that bring salvation. The Bible tells us that Jesus did so many miracles and signs and wonders there is no book that could hold the details of what He did or His works, so we are only given a small account of those things that He did and that God wants us to know about. But I'm sure He did not have people going around barking like a dog, or all over the place out of control in a silly manner, and still the person when they stop they are still depressed or sad or whatever. The joy of the laugh is not about out of control, but f comfort and peace in knowing...
Much hysteria goes on in the churches where false teachers and preachers have followings, that is not of God, just as in the day of the apostles, and the say its of God.
Therefore, as the passage says, if you cannot fit this by pointing these people to the right things in scripture and what God says, and correct them, then if its of man it will come to nothing. But if its of God and He is using this foolishness to somehow point to Himself for His glory, and will sooner or later make some changes by correcting all this craziness that is going on... then all we should do is denounce what we know is not of God and correct it as Paul and the apostles did during their work showing the proper and right things of God, or just leave it all alone until God Himself steps in and make changes.
For sure God is not going to allow such mess to continue in His name leading people astray, and many of these preachers of such cults are leading people astray with foolishness, and God has already stated that he is going to harshly punish these preachers who do such. So all we can do is pray and correct those who and where we can.
Ella, I agree with you that God will punish such people perverting the Truth in their cults and deceiving people!
There is no madness in God and those who follow God, are the HOLY and small Remnant. The majority will perish..even among christians.
Because they chose their own truth which is OPOSITE to the God�s Truth. Such people by being Christians are unbelievers and they all flow to the hell fire by millions!
God Jesus said about them:
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 �Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep�s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
I Never Knew You
21 �Not everyone who says to Me, �Lord, Lord,� shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, �Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?� 23 And then I will declare to them, �I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!� Matthew 7
Bahira says that we have not met people that speak in tounges "what happens in churcheas today is just crazy barking" so she has called me a crazy barker.. I do not bark I am filled with the spirit and I have a prayer languege spoken of in corinthians 14:2, but she does think I am a barker and she thinks I am controled by demons.
So do I call her to repentence ? do I encolve mediators? she insults me and my brother PJ do I tattle tell on her?
No I do not , I pray for her, she wants to insult and slander me and other pentecostals because of her ignorance.
Bahira, have you been in every church to hear or experience for your self?
No you have not, so you are asuming you really have no idea..
I would greatly apreciate it if you would quit calling me a barking dog, its offensive and calling what the holy spirit does in someone who is truly spirit filled, might be blasphemy of the holy spirit, better be careful with your words, the bible says blasphemy of the holy spirit is unforgiveble and someone who does such is in danger of jugment.. you have guts and do not use wisdom when you speak
More importantly the response of Dog's barking is speaking evil of the holy spirit, tongues is not the issue the gift of The Holy Spirit is the topic and tongues is the manifestation of receiving the holy spirit.
Bahira I have never been part of a church that does not accept the Holy Spirit.
all over the place out of control in a silly manner, and still the person when they stop