Author	Thread: Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that?
Admin	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 01:16 AM The most important topic to a christian would seem to be the most understood, why do we suppose that is? I thought you would never ask. Because Faith has an enemy, and that enemy is Satan. When the bible says to be a doer of the word, that is proof positive of man's faith, that by means is the end of the topic. Here is an example of the first time that not being a doer of the word is recorded, and the primary enemy of faith is revealed. Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. The word of faith said do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we know faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. so we Conclude Adam had heard this for Eve mentionted it to Satan. The word tells us whatever is not of faith is Sin, So we that acting on the word of Satan as Eve did is an enemy of faith, which is called perverted faith of faith, for Satan's words are always of fear. Had Adam and Eve told the serpent no and not have eaten the apple that would have been an act of faith or being a doer of the word. Now in this light we know why it is said that only faith pleases God. So many times it seems as though some think faith is a general term or believing in Jesus is strong faith, but faith is derived from every word of God relative to what is declared. So when it is said that faith is a gift and nothing is to be done, that is not a true statement concerning faith. When the violent taketh by force is a Good illumination towards faith, whatever the word of God says to us must be taken with strong determination, or the enemy will talk you out of it. Listen to what is said in this scripture, this word of faith, notice who it is to and what action will, bring the declaration of this word into the hearer of this word's ear. Jn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Jn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. The person that will hear this word and believe from the heart and then say it, will receive eternal life and that is that person's faith made known by his action, or response to the word of God. Here is your first example of this to the church: Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. It is all revealed right here. Be Blessed in your hearing of the word. Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 03:06 AM One has to be the recipient of the "gift of faith," which is also demonstrative of foreordained mercy unto the one who receives it, in order to comprehend it. Men have tried to explain it, and talk as they will about this very wondrous miraculous manifestation, they cannot! It can only be comprehended through experience. awm Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 03:10 AM Wiseman of couse you can comprehend faith it is very simple. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 04:19 AM .:applause::applause: yes PJ I do understand and I have always said faith=obedience... its not something in your mind (heart) its something that is proven by your obedience to God like abraham at jehova jira so I dont think that has anything to do with it being gift, it is given to us the faith we need to be obedient thats all he gives us enough to see what the truth is and act on it if we do not rebell against it and act on it then we are saved, and after that god begins to show us we can trust him through our faith in (obedience to) him:yay::yay: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 04:32 AM First things first faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So if I said what scripture standing concerning being born again what would you say? Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 06:38 AM John 3:16 of corse, believeith on him then you wont perish Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 08:45 AM Well, here is where PJ will DENY Ephesisans 2:8,9. The Bible SAYS faith is a GIFT, PJ, that is the VAST MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS FOR THE LAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS BELIEVE THIS. Let's hear it PJ Post Ephesians 2:8,9 In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 08:47 AM That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord." and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justifiedo and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, Eveyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:9-15 NIV :applause: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 08:58 AM Well, here is where PJ will DENY Ephesisans 2:8,9. The Bible SAYS faith is a GIFT, PJ, that is the VAST MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS FOR THE LAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS BELIEVE THIS. Let's hear it PJ Post Ephesians 2:8,9 In Christ, James James your answer to this Post is as Jesus said you tell me what faith is and I will answer you. For you know not as your answer say's Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 09:21 AM "Saved" has a wide range of meanings. It includes salvation from God's wrath, which we all had incurred by our sinfulness. The "through faith" establishes the necessity of faith in Christ as the only means of being made right with God. You can not get around Faith and it comes by hearing and believe the true Word of God. :applause: Post Reply
View Profile History	Who says Faith is a Gift: Why Some say that? Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 10:03 AM That is well said Angel, I just posted a article that does a better Job explaining than I do, I agree with most of what it says. Man's response to the word of God is an act of his will, and that response is called his faith. Post Reply