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Daniel 12: 7, and the Comic Book Version of the Anti-Christ and the Rebuilt Temple
Posted : 12 Nov, 2011 10:06 AM

Daniel 12: 7, and the Comic Book Version of the Anti-Christ and the Rebuilt Temple



Daniel 12: 7 says ""...when he shall have accomplished

to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be

finished."



The end will come at the time when the holy people are scattered.



The key question is who are the holy people in Daniel 12: 7? Do you define them by man made theology or by scripture?



But Daniel 12: 7 does not fit the end time scenario of comic book prophecy, that the church will be raptured before the tribulation starts and then the Jews will be saved and there is to be a one man super world political dictator who is going to come and sit in a newly re-built temple in Jerusalem and defile it. This event is to mark the start of the dispensationalist seven year tribulation.



The quotes below are from an online version as a pdf file of:

Christian Zionism: Its History,

Theology and Politics, by Stephen Sizer

AAARGH Internet Editions

2005



http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livre...Rchriszion.pdf



Its from Stephen Sizer's chapter on Hal Lindsey



The Re-Built Temple In Jerusalem



Lindsey starts from Daniel 9: 24-27, and tells us that:

"This prophecy speaks of sacrifice and offerings which demand that the

Jews rebuild the

Temple for the third time upon its original site. At that point,

Judaism and Islam will be placed on an

inevitable course of war over the site, a war that will start

Armageddon. Many prophecies demand

rebuilding of the ancient Temple, indicating that the event is a

significant prophetic sign (see Matthew

24:15 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4). Therefore any move toward that

direction is a crucial clue to what

hour it is on God's prophetic timetable".160



"This prophecy" is Daniel 9: 24-27 The key verse is Daniel 9: 27.

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the

midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to

cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it

desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be

poured upon the desolate."



"He" shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease." This is where the

dispensationalists derive their doctrine that a third temple will be

built in Jerusalem before their anti-Christ appears.



But who is "he" in Daniel 9: 27? "He" has to refer back to the

previous verse, which is verse 26, saying "And after threescore and

two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the

people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the

sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end

of the war desolations are determined."



"He" is the Messiah, Jesus Christ. The only other man mentioned in

verse 26 is the prince, who is Titus, the Roman General that led the

army in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.



The footnote here, 160, is to 160 Lindsey, Israel., p. 23., Israel

and the Last Days 1983, Eugene, Oregon, Harvest House,



Sizer says "Lindsey points to the existence of two talmudic schools

training some 200 Levite priests and the

accumulation of vessels and clothing necessary to perform sacrifices,

as further proof of the imminent plans to rebuild the Temple."



Sizer quotes Lindsey as saying "So the rebuilding of the Temple is

significant not only because of the potential firestorm it will

create between Jews and Muslims in the Middle East. It is also a

critical development in the entire

prophetic scenario. The Bible makes it clear that in the last days the

Antichrist will establish his reign

in the Temple of Jerusalem. Therefore, the Temple must and will be

rebuilt."177 Lindsey, Final, p. 104.The Final Battle (Palos

Verdes, California, Western Front, 1995);



The Super One Man Political Anti-Christ



Sizer quotes Lindsey as saying "We believe that the dramatic

elements which are occurring in the world today are setting the

stage for this magnetic, diabolical Future Fuehrer to make his

entrance.301 301 Lindsey, Late., p. 113. The Late Great Planet Earth

(London, Lakeland, 1970);



"As I wrote 10 years ago in The Late Great Planet Earth, I believe this

man is alive today-alive

and waiting to come forth... I believe this leader is alive somewhere

in Europe; perhaps he is already a

member of the EEC parliament.302 302 Lindsey, 1980's., pp. 15, 106.The 1980's:

Countdown to Armageddon (New York, Bantam, 1981



He will immediately rise to prominence in the EEC and from that

post he will offer the world amazing solutions to all its complex and

terrifying problems. Because of his

superhuman powers and his solutions to the world's conflicts, the

anti-Christ will be chosen to lead the

EEC.303 303 Lindsey, 1980's., p. 109 The 1980's:

Countdown to Armageddon (New York, Bantam, 1981



Heading up what will evolve into a 10-nation confederacy will be a

man of such magnetism

and power that he will become the greatest dictator the world has ever

known... And he is alive today.

There is a potential dictator waiting in the wings somewhere in Europe

who will make Adolf Hitler and

Josef Stalin look like choir boys. Right now he is preparing to take

his throne, inflaming his soul with

visions of what he will be able to do for mankind with his grand

schemes and revolutionary ideas... Is

alive and well on planet Earth... Lets go meet him."304 304 Lindsey,

Planet., pp. 232, 235.

The Liberation of Planet Earth (London, Lakeland, 1974);



Sizer says "Despite promising in 1995, 'I will show you who will be

the key players in this endtimes drama,'and for thirty years, making

detailed predictions about this 'someone', supposedly alive today,

Lindsey is still unable to identify the anti-Christ."



The one man super anti-Christ of the dispensationalists is to sit in the re-built

temple to desecrate it, which is their take on Paul in II Thessalonians 2: 3-4. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."



In scripture, rather than in Comic Book Theology, Paul teaches in I Corinthians 3: 16-17 and I Corinthians 6: 19 that the believers, those born again in Christ, are the temple. Then what he says in II Thessalonians 2: 4 is metaphor and does not talk about one guy sitting in a literal temple. If it refers to one super New World Order anti-Christ politician sitting in a literal temple, then Paul was not writing under the the Holy Spirit in either II Thessalonians 2: 4 or in I Corinthians 3: 16-17 and I Corinthians 6: 19. The Holy Spirit does not inspire contradictory doctrines.



In Paul's metaphor the man of sin, representing many false prophets or those who have the spirit of anti-Christ, will influence, or "sit," in the minds and hearts of the believers who have been deceived into accepting the false doctrines taught.



Another part of the comic book scenario is that the dispensationalist church will be raptured off the earth right before the one man anti-Christ appears and sits in the literal temple in Jerusalem. John in I John 2: 18-19, and I John 4: 3 does not predict a one man anti-Christ who is to appear during the tribulation. Rather, he talks about many anti-Christs being in the world when he wrote and that there is a spirit of Anti-Christ.



In the comic book scenario the "Holy People" are the Jews who in postponement theology are all saved and totally born again after the "church" has been raptured. If the born again Jews are to be scattered, and remember it says the power of the holy people is to be scattered, this does not fit with the dispensationalist scenario that "All Israel" shall be saved during the tribulation. Remember also that during the tribulation in the comic book scenario the 144,000, all male Jew virgins, are running around doing something. Hal Lindsay says they are 144,000 "Billy Grahams." Though the Jews as the "Holy People" may not all be in one place during the tribulation their power will not be reduced by the scattering as told in Daniel 12: 7 - in the comic book scenario. The Holy People have to be those born again in Christ, since people have no righteousness of their own, but only take on the righteousness of Christ when they are in him and receive some part of his mind into their inner life.



So, the comic book theologians have to ignore Daniel 12: 7 or make up explanations about how it is fulfilled in some way that doesn't involve "All Israel shall be saved" during the tribulation.





And - the Holy Spirit is not the Restrainer of II Thessalonians 2: 7. Get a good concordance and look up texts involving the Holy Spirit and how he deals with us. He leads into the truth. The restrainer is not the Holy Spirit. Since the Holy Spirit leads into the truth, then how could a Remnant or the 144,000 operate in great faith on the earth during the very last days? And how could 144,000 male Jewish virgins all be Hal Lindsey's "Billy Grahams" without the Holy Spirit? Lindsey apparently meant that the 144,000 will have spiritual power. No one has spiritual power without the Holy Spirit. Lindsey used the wrong guy, though, because a 33rd degree mason - unless he fully repents - does not have spiritual power from the Holy Spirit. He might have some spiritual power though.

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