Thread: UNDENIABLE Biblical PROOF that John Calvin was an Apostate Hypocrite who had no business in Geneva trying to set up a government among men, while the Word of God states, "MY KINGDOM OF NOT OF THIS WORLD!" [Jesus]
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UNDENIABLE Biblical PROOF that John Calvin was an Apostate Hypocrite who had no business in Geneva trying to set up a government among men, while the Word of God states, "MY KINGDOM OF NOT OF THIS WORLD!" [Jesus]
Posted : 23 Nov, 2011 12:10 PM
Sir James writes:
"Then, just like AWM, which now stands for "A Wacko Man", they trot off and find the articles that are character assassinations of John Calvin."
Look at the venom of this heretical Calvinism, this Satanism veiled as faith in Christ, insulting men by calling them names..!
"A Wacko Man"..? [the same was said of Jesus and Michael Servetus; I am in excellent company!]
I was once a Calvinist, and defended the faith as staunchly as any ever, with the exception of the butchers of Geneva.
I KNOW that your denomination is vile and filled with the poisonous doctrines of hell. For such as seeks to use immature name calling, and murder, are obviously not of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have been delivered from the doctrines of men who seek to utilize dialectics to deceive men and connivingly convince other that "intellectual belief" is all that it takes, hence Cauvin's Damnable Request that Servetus repent, even in the flames..
If Feral, that demon walking in the flesh, truly believed that Servetus was damned, why did he constantly seek albeit most cruelly, a word of repentence from one that, by their own views, was to have been incapable of repentance..?
Servetus' calling out to God for mercy is all the true church of Jesus Christ needs to see where Servetus stood in those moment in the flames.
Men that know in their hearts that they may have wronged the Lord of Glory do not stand in their moment of greatest agony, and deny their error.
Michael Servetus' refusal to be cadjoled by Farel, that serpent's seed, proves that Cauvin was a heretic, instead.
Try as you hypocrites might to wash away the blood of that saint, you will never do it.
I do believe in eternal salvation and the election by grace, but I also believe that no true child of God should seek to use murder, which you so desperately desire to cover up, as your type has for centuries, blaming the repeated telling of this man's horrible death on "Aminianism".
I do not believe in Calvinism or Arminianism, I believe both are dialectical tools of Satan and his seed.
Thus your efforts to manipulate me will not avail you anything, so you can cease in your attempts to beguile me.
Please read and tell me where you read where I have insulted another?
I have stood as insult after insult has been heaved at me, and did not disgrace my Lord.
Now, I know that at least for the moment, you are filled with that foul spirit of hell; for none other would attempt to bend a man with childish insults to seeing things their way.
Oh, as a man I have been tempted, but restrained by the Holy Spirit, that same Spirit which is not in you, else you would not attempt to employ the same "Trauma-Based Mind Control" techniques as the Cauvin's and the Ferel's attempted to utliize in establishing what amounted to a demonic religious enterprise masquerading as being of Christ.
Oh, yes, I was once a Calvinist, too; but thank God I was delivered from all cursed religion that calls men names, and murders them, when dialectics doesn't work in bending them to someone's control!
The ONLY proof that is needed to verify that Jean Cauvin, aka John Calvin, was truly not a righteous man but a hypocrite, a wolf in sheep's clothing, is that Cauvin had no biblical authority to be in Geneva in the first place! If he was a true child of God, he would not have been there trying to set up a government among men, and resorting to the same means of controlling those men, as do other ungodly and worldly men, which is VIOLENCE.
True believers do not resort to violence!
The Word of God is very clear. We are to obey the word of God. This is reason why Jesus said, "Why do you call me Lord, and do not the things that I say?"
Why would anyone who claims to be a true disciple of Jesus Christ, think that Cauvin was right in being at Geneva, and in trying to set up a government of men, when the Lord Jesus, Himself, told the world, that we are to have no thought of a kingdom in this world:
"Pilate answered, �I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests delivered You to me; what have You done?� Jesus answered, �My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.�
'Pilate answered, �I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests delivered You to me; what have You done?� Jesus answered, �My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.� [John 18: 35-36]
As the Chief Priest was a hypocrite pretending to represent the Living God in bringing an accusation against the Lord of Glory, so Cauvin was a hypocrite in allegedly defending the faith when he sentenced Michael Servetus to death.
The fact that Cauvin was a religious hypocrite was manifested by the Father through this horrible event involving the death of a true saint, at the hands of "the Heretic of Geneva", as he was pretending that Jesus' kingdom is of this world.
There we have it once and for all. The Word of God proves that Cauvin was merely just another heretic trying to gather men unto himself and his fictitious corporatist entity, aka "the Alleged Body of Christ at Geneva!"
I will refrain from labeling you, SirJames, and instead of seeking vengeance myself, allow the Lord to tell you on Judgment Day what He knows of you..
Will you be there? Only the grace of God shall tell it..
It is not my place to say who shall be saved and who shall not be!
I am not the Father, and only He has that right, as it is His Sovereignly!
UNDENIABLE Biblical PROOF that John Calvin was an Apostate Hypocrite who had no business in Geneva trying to set up a government among men, while the Word of God states, "MY KINGDOM OF NOT OF THIS WORLD!" [Jesus]
Posted : 23 Nov, 2011 12:39 PM
n 1540 Michael opened a correspondence with John Calvin of Geneva, asking the reformer what it meant for Jesus to be the Son of God and how a man was to be born again. He criticized Calvin's replies and stated that those who believed in the Trinity believed in the spirit of the dragon, the priests and the false prophets who make war on the lamb. He implied that he was the Michael, referred to in Revelation 12:7 and Daniel 12:1, the one who was to fight the antichrist. Both John Calvin and the Pope were antichrists in Servetus' eyes. Calvin wrote to a friend that if Servetus ever fell into his hands, he would not allow him to get away alive.
In 1553 Michael anonymously published The Restitution of Christianity which he saw as an attempt to restore Christianity to its primitive purity. In that work he boldly--or rashly--continued to deny the Trinity despite the danger it brought him. Denying the Trinity and the incarnation of Christ were still capital offenses as they had been throughout the middle ages. Michael said Jesus was the Son of the eternal God but not the eternal Son of God. Contrary to the reformers, he also taught that both faith and works were necessary for salvation. He sent Calvin a portion of the work.
Roman Catholic authorities in Vienne discovered the name of the Restitution's author because Calvin collaborated in denouncing him to the Inquisition, and they arrested Michael for heresy. He escaped, however, and fled toward Naples by way of Calvin's Geneva. Vienne's authorities burned him in effigy. He entered a church where Calvin was preaching, was recognized, and arrested on charges of blasphemy and heresy, although he was not a citizen and was just passing through town. Was it legal for them to arrest him?
Nonetheless, Michael was tried for heresy, this time by a Protestant city council. He continued in an attitude of superior knowledge and called John Calvin "Simon Magus" an "impostor," and more. Servetus shocked the Genevans with his pantheistic or gnostic claim that everything emanated from God, even the devil. Like the Anabaptists, he declared infant baptism a great error. Geneva unfairly refused him legal council although he was a stranger to its law system, saying he could lie well enough without a lawyer to assist him.
The Geneva Council voted to condemn Servetus for heresy and called for his execution. The Swiss churches of Berne, Zurich, Basle, and Schaffhausen encouraged this move. Although Calvin insisted with the rest that Servetus must die, he urged that in mercy Servetus be executed by the sword, not by burning, but the Council rejected the suggestion. It was quarreling with Calvin at that time over the city government. Calvin and reformer William Farel spent hours with Servetus trying to turn him back from his lapses from commonly accepted Christian doctrine, but Servetus stood fast to his principles.
On this day, October 27, 1553, Geneva burned Michael Servetus at the stake for blasphemy and heresy. In the flames, Michael called repeatedly on Jesus, the Son of God for mercy.
Geneva's action led to an immediate controversy among reformers whether it is right for a reformation church to execute heretics. Most said it was not. Calvin took a lot of heat for his role in the denunciation, trial and execution of Servetus and was not always honest in his account of what had happened.
Bibliography:
Adapted from an earlier Christian History Institute story by Diana Severance, Ph.D.
Bainton, Roland. Hunted Heretic; the life and death of Michael Servetus. Boston: Beacon Press, 1953.
Fulton, John F. Michael Servetus, Humanist and Martyr. New York: Herbert Reichner, 1953.
Hunt, Dave. What Love Is This? : Calvinism's misrepresentation of God. Bend, Oregon: Berean Call, c2004.
"Servetus, Michael." Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, edited by F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone. Oxford, 1997.
"Servetus, Michael." Encyclopedia Americana. Chicago: American Corp., 1956.
UNDENIABLE Biblical PROOF that John Calvin was an Apostate Hypocrite who had no business in Geneva trying to set up a government among men, while the Word of God states, "MY KINGDOM OF NOT OF THIS WORLD!" [Jesus]
Posted : 23 Nov, 2011 01:40 PM
Donna, it does not matter how much lipstick one puts on a pig, it is still a pig; and Jean Cauvin, if he were a true believer, had no scriptural authority to be in Geneva, in the first place, trying to establish a government of men.
Jesus was clear, His kingdom is not of this world, and you cannot change it.
It is written in Isaiah 8:20:
"If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
For many years, I too was deceived and caught up in the religiousity of this corporatistic world. This is the system of antiChrist, and it is all over it, and it is only going to get worse. This is the Father's eternal plan, and again, you cannot change it.
We, which are true believers, are called not to become involved and entrenched even more deeply into this world, but to "COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM"..
It is as I stated to you. God is Sovereign and you can only do exactly what He so desires, and apart from His willing one to "come out", wherein He prepares even the mechanisms by which they are to "come", they cannot walk by faith.
I remember hearing a woman tell a Bible study one day in LA, "Abraham did not have to go to Canaan!" I went up to her during a break and said to her, "Oh, Yes he did! There was no provision for Abraham to go any other place."
God's providence is for you, at the moment, there; and there you must stay. If His providence ever changes to drawing you to truly "Come out from among them, and be ye separate and touch not the unclean thing", make no mistake about it, you will, as did Abraham, have no other choice than to walk by faith and not by sight.
John Calvin, I now know, was a hypocrite, and his actions in Geneva in telling men that Christ's kingdom had come to men, was a falsehood, and the death of Michael Servetus and 56 others proves it. He was no different than the Pope.
The Pope used murder and torture, so did Cauvin. This earned him the title "Geneva's Pope!"
Where in God's Name, do you think that murder is an acceptable form of Church discipline?
Face it, you cannot find one scripture which supports Michael Servetus' death, or any man's death at the hands of Jesus' disciples!
