Thread: Afraid to learn something new,or to have your understanding challenged.
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Afraid to learn something new,or to have your understanding challenged.
Posted : 23 Nov, 2011 04:01 PM
I find the professing christians in america ( oops 'THE HOMELAND')afraid to learn something new contained within the Scriptures.
People are afraid to have their understanding challenged.
People are 'AFRAID' to admit that they do not believe certain Scriptures.
Some people upon understanding that they are hearing Nonsense being told to them,are afraid to leave the place where they have been meeting with other believers.
The Holy Spirit,who is the one which empowered the writers of the Scripture.
He still to this day reveals the truth contained within the Scriptures,
Yet people would rather hear what men say,instead of the Spirit of YHWH through His Chosen Vessels.
Even the men that stand in front of the people Sunday mornings,these men speak of things which they have not investigated.
When the Holy Spirit reveals to these men the truth,will they
go before the people and 'Confess their unbelief,NO.
They do not want to look bad before the Sheeple.
American believers have been 'BRAINWASHED' to letting someone else think for them,and to tell them what they should be believing.
One of the greatest things Yeshua had done for the people,it was to teach them 'HOW TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES'.
Afraid to learn something new,or to have your understanding challenged.
Posted : 23 Nov, 2011 04:16 PM
Afraid to learn something new, or to have your understanding challenged.
*** Afraid to learn ???�I disagree George�most people desire to Learn & be Taught�They might be Afraid of Buying a Lie and Rightly they should be�It is Not our Understanding that some people Challenge�it is Our LORD and His Word�
Some people upon understanding that they are hearing Nonsense being told to them, are afraid to leave the place where they have been meeting with other believers.
*** Well�I understand not all people Teach Bible Scripture or Truth�in a Church�Home Church�a Walmart�or a Site like this�especially here in the Biblical section�I aint Afraid to stick it out�My LORD and Saviour don�t want one lil one to be lead astray�and neither do I�Be Blessed and Happy Gobble day�xo
Afraid to learn something new,or to have your understanding challenged.
Posted : 24 Nov, 2011 05:31 AM
@james:
james says:
Okay, Passedover,
You posted some accusations, so how about some specifics?
In Christ,
James
Me says:
I have not written any accusation in this post,what I have written is the truth,from observing the written posts of others on this forum..
There are those right now on this forum which have called me the devil.
They use the so-called devil emoticon,and they have made specific judgements about me and the 'FAITH'Yeshua has bestowed to me in himself.
This is because i bring a different understanding of the Scripture which they have been told to believe.
I read and study the Scriptures in depth,even going to the Original languages.
I talk with other believers which are doing the same as i.
We challenge,admonish,rebuke one another unto Love,faith and good deeds.
People are afraid to have their understanding of the Word of YHWH challenged,for they might have to admit that they had been believing that which is not found in Scripture..
When the Word of YHWH confronts our understanding there are two things a person can do.
1.Continue believing that which they had been believing.
2.Admit that they had been believing something not true,
confess they have been understanding the Scriptures wrongly,and repent as the Holy Spirit grants to that person repentance.
Then be changed in their understanding of the Scriptures,and of YHWH.
Here is one example:
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
The Greek would refute this in a minute
Me says:
In this Scripture James is talking with another person.
This person is the 'O vain man'
This vain man is saying to James in verse 18,
Show me the faith of you without the works,and 'i you will show from the works of me the faith.
English-Dead
Greek-nekros
nekros: dead
Original Word: νεκρός, ά, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: nekros
Phonetic Spelling: (nek-ros')
Short Definition: dead, a corpse
Definition: (a) adj: dead, lifeless, subject to death, mortal, (b) noun: a dead body, a corpse.
3498 nekr�s (an adjective, derived from nekys, "a corpse, a dead body") � dead; literally, "what lacks life"; dead; (figuratively) not able to respond to impulses, or perform functions ("unable, ineffective, dead, powerless," L & N, 1, 74.28); unresponsive to life-giving influences (opportunities); inoperative to the things of God.
3498 /nekr�s ("corpse-like") is used as a noun in certain contexts ("the dead"), especially when accompanied by the Greek definite article. The phrase, ek nekron ("from the dead"), lacks the Greek article to give the sense "from what is of death."
The arguement presented here is this:
Vain man says to James,You have faith yet no works.
I have works,which shows i have faith.
My question is this,when you the average person trusting Yeshua.
When you have no works because of a spiritual drought,a.k.a. going through the desert.
Because you have no works during that time do you have faith that is active or not.
According to those trusting mans interpretation,.NO YOU DO NOT.
Well then joe christian,you cannot be saved according to mans interpretation.
How about when you sleep,use the restroom.
How about driving,shopping etc.
Do you now see that 'FAITH' without works is not 'DEAD'..
Shalom
Me
ps:
A seed that has not been planted,is that seed 'ALIVE or DEAD'
How about this from Matthew 28:18-20
Please look up the word Baptizing in Matthew 28:19,along with the two words "Teach"verse 19
and Teaching verse 20..
Then ask ABBA,what He is saying in this His Word..
Remember the context of this is about Discipleship.
Yeshua has commissioned these Jewish men to be going to the Nations/the Ethnos-Unclean ones.
They are to be making Disciples unto Yeshua the Jewish Messiah.
What the Lord shows you should be understood and taught by the Church,for this is not talking about water Baptism.
This is talking about immersing People into or with the Names Of GOD,as revealed in the Old Covenant.
To baptize a person in water,is a one time event.
To be baptizing/immersing believers into or with the names of GOD,is an on going continuous process,which requires that I have a deep understand of the Lord and His revealed names myslef.
Each name reveals His character,attitude,personality;Who He is and what He is like.
Baptism,in water is unto the Remission/Forgiveness/the release of sins from the sinner..
And in the name of Yeshua,ONLY:Please read Acts 2 :38
Matthew 7:21-23
I would like everyone to go to biblos.com
Look up Matthew 7.
Click onto the interlinear
Scroll to verse 21 and beging reading rthe Greek text.
Here are the English translations.
Matthew 7:22
(KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(KJV+) ManyG4183 will sayG2046 to meG3427 inG1722 thatG1565 day,G2250 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 have we notG3756 prophesiedG4395 in thyG4674 name?G3686 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 have cast outG1544 devils?G1140 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 doneG4160 manyG4183 wonderful works?G1411
(LITV) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many works of power?
(YLT) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things?
The Greek actually says this.
Lord,Lord Not in your name did we prophesy,and(not) in your name demons cast out,and (not) in your name works of power many we performed.
The word (not) in the parenthesis is implied.
Please look this up,for Yeshuas reply,is one that should have people questioning whether the things they are doing are of YHWH or not.
These are just a few of the posts i have written for which i have been called the devil,and a devisive person.
As i have stated,i believe the people live in fear of those which bring a different and correct understanding of the Word of YHWH and for that matter of YHWH,Yeshua and the Holy Spirit.
As for those believing 'Reformed Theology'
My understanding of this is,Refomed Theology is to be being reformed as the Holy Spirit reveals more of who Yeshua is,and what He is like.
And reveals better understanding of the Word of YHWH,
Yet the reformers seem to be stuck in the 15th-19th centuries.
For the Homeland reformation christians quote Spurgeon,Luther,Edwards,Whitfield,and others,
Yet those which have the Word of YHWH,which goes against these reformers,these reformers just seem to throw them off as to not being of the reformation theology.
I do not believe a person is called of YHWH to being of 'THE REFORMED THEOLOGY' mind set.
Nor is anyone called of YHWH unto being called by any of these names.
Anglican
Baptist
Catholic
Charismatic
Episcopealian
Greek Orthodox
Independant
Jews for Jesus
Lutheran
Methodist
Mennonite
Nazarene
Presbyterian
Quaker
Reformed
Seventh day Adventist
We are only to be 'DISCIPLES' of Yeshua.
What does disicple mean.
Disciple is one that is a'LEARNER' of Yeshua.
Shalom
Me
ps:
I know that i do not articulate my postings as well as others.
I butcher the english language.
I have extremely strong convictions of Yeshua,The Word of YHWH and Salvation by The Grace of YWHW having Chosen those unto Salvation in Yeshua,from before Creation.
Yet i what i write, i write as the Holy Spirit reveals,and instucts
Afraid to learn something new,or to have your understanding challenged.
Posted : 25 Nov, 2011 05:59 PM
George you know by their fruit and it is fo tree that are twice dead and plucked up by the roots, you can not know Goddd by the natural side of life and it is not the Holy Spirit that speaks against faith.
