Repentance is a change of mind and will arising from sorrow
for sin and leading to transformation of life. See;
Acts 2:38 KJV
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. Acts 3:19 KJV
Do you see repentance as "a thing which is granted to only a select few", or that it is a thing which any may arrogate at will?
Let me provide you with two scriptures to ponder afore you answer:
"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." [Acts 11:18]
"And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." [John 6:65]
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." [Acts 13:48]
Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Literal Translation
Act 13:48 And hearing, the nations rejoiced and glorified the Word of the Lord. And as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
Youngs literal translation
Act 13:48 And the nations hearing were glad, and were glorifying the word of the Lord, and did believe--as many as were appointed to life age-during;
English-Ordain
Greek-tasso
tass�: to draw up in order, arrange
Original Word: τάσσω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: tass�
Phonetic Spelling: (tas'-so)
Short Definition: I assign, arrange
Definition: (a) I assign, arrange, (b) I determine; mid: I appoint.
5021 t�ssō � properly, arrange (put in order); to place in a particular order, appoint; (figuratively) ordain, set in place; "station" (J. Thayer).
5021 /t�ssō ("place in position, post") was commonly used in ancient military language for "designating" ("appointing, commissioning") a specific status, i.e. arranging (placing) in a deliberate, fixed order.
[5021 (t�ssō) was "primarily a military term meaning 'to draw up in order, arrange in place, assign, appoint, order' " (A-S).]
Word Origin
from a prim. root tag-
Definition
to draw up in order, arrange
NASB Word Usage
appointed (2), designated (1), determined (1), devoted (1), established (1), set (1).
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appoint, determine, ordain, set.
A prolonged form of a primary verb (which latter appears only in certain tenses); to arrange in an orderly manner, i.e. Assign or dispose (to a certain position or lot) -- addict, appoint, determine, ordain, set.
{Do you see repentance as "a thing which is granted to only a select few", or that it is a thing which any may arrogate at will? }
Coming to Christ for salvation is never a merely human achievement.
John 6:44
No man can come to me except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count stackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
God is patient in waiting for all who will come to repentance until the coming of Jesus.
AWM said: Do you see repentance as "a thing which is granted to only a select few", or that it is a thing which any may arrogate at will?
Ella says: AWM, sorry, good try, but You are trying to tie three different situations and occassions together to make your point out of context with what is going on... ALL, EVERYONE IS CALLED TO REPNTANCE OF THEIR SINS, IF they expect to receive Christ into their lives unto salvation. Jesus' first sermon was a call to repentance, one cannot be saved and find favor in forgiveness from God unless there is repentance as Jesus speaks about in Matthew chapter 6, if there is no repentnace , there is no forgiveness. In 2 Peter chapter 3, we are told this: 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
AWM said: Let me provide you with two scriptures to ponder afore you answer:"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." [Acts 11:18]
Ella says: Peter is reporting to his group of the other apostles and disciples what happen upon the first Gentile conversion of Cornilus in Acts chapter 10. Peter explains to the group that Cornilus a Gentile had accepted the gospel of Jesus Chirst and was converted, and what God had done by giving Cornilus the Holy Spirit. And whenthe group had heard what Peter said that it was not up to him to judge what God had done by giving His Holy Spirit to the Gentiles, then the group agreed and were happy and gave God the prasie, and the passage goes on to let us know what the group said, "Then God has also granted the Gentiles repentance to life" Acts chapter 11: 17-18... the Jews did not feel that God should have given His Holy Spirit to the Gentiles, they felt that this was a spiritual gift only for them, until Cornilies' conversion.
Then AWM you jump back to what Jesus said in John when He was speaking in the synagogue to the Pharisees and those who did not believe in Him and would betray Him as the Scripture points out which has not one thing to do with what happened in John.
AWM also posted:"And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." [John 6:65]
Ella says: Then you jumped again to Acts 13, when Paul was speaking to the Jews and Gentile at Antioch in the synagogue, speaking about his call into ministry to go forth to preach the gospel of grace to all the people, Jews included, but especially to the Gentiles.
This statment that Paul spoke is about his call in ministry to preach the gospel to the Gentile, and this made the Gentiles happy when he had said these thing Luke tells us what happen: "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." [Acts 13:48]... Which means that as many people Jews or Gentiles HEARD the gospel of grace they believed and received what Paul preached to them... therefore, that gospel message which Paul preached were ordained by God to draw a person to Christ, because God so ordained that whosoever hears the gospel of Jesus, and have faith to believe and receive this gospel truth, they will indeed receive eternal life... nothing more and nothing less.
I didn't complet what I was saying because I had to get off the computer for a quick second. But had AWM and all others who believe and think that a person is not converted after hearing the gospel cntradict clearly what God say throughour HIs word.
And had AWM read farther in John chapter 6, instead of trying t trip somebody up to make his point her would be biblically able to compare what Jesus says in john and what Peter and paul both spoke to what God speaks in Romans chapter 10 to confirm His word.
AWm posted John 6:44, but he fail to post the verses before he got to verse 44, in order to get a clearer picture of what Jesus really said, as well he should have posted folliwing verses which say this starting at John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father�s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.� At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, �I am the bread that came down from heaven.� They said, �Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, �I came down from heaven�?� �Stop grumbling among yourselves,� Jesus answered. 44 �No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45. It is written in the Prophets: �They will all be taught by God.� 46. Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.�
Verse 45, is most important to this whole saying that NO ONE CAN COME TO JESUS EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAWS THEM...
Look at what Jesus say as to how the Father draws a person to Him (Jesus)... 1. The prophets prophesied, They (all, everyone) will be taught by God..so how is a person taught by God? Through the preaching, reading, studying and the hearing of God's WORD. 2. Jesus goes on to say in verse 46. EVERYONE (not just a few, or the so-called elect)... but EVERYONE who HA HEARD THE FATHER... so how do we hera the Father... through HIs holy Word, and LEARNED FROM HIM COMES TO ME (Jesus).... so what is Jesus saying here?... if you have HEARD the gospel and LEARNED what God expectS of you, and what God thinks about sin, your heart should be convicted to repentance, AND fi you receive what God says about His Son Jesus Christ...THEN, you respond by yeilding in faith to believe in the Lord and receive Him in your life, you shall have eternal life.
Jesus also say in verse 51, I am the lving bread which came down from heaven, IF ANY MAN( person) EAT OF THIS BREAD ( STAY IN, OR STUDY THE WORD OF GOD,A ND BELIEVE) THIS PERSON SHALL LIVE FOREVER, AND THE BREAD THAT I WILL GIVE IS MY FLESH (DEATH ON THE CROSS), WHICH I WILL FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD ( not a chosen few who call themselves the s0-called elect, and only ones going to heaven... BUT JESUS SAYS HE WILL GIVE HIS LIFE FOR THE WORLD!
Sorry, Angel I'm just seeing your post. Thank you for posting such direct and clear Scriptures for discussion. The word of God is so plain and simple, until man tries to make his theology and opinions and doctrines out of what God never said, or intended to happen with His word.
Of course, we know as Paul says, This comes about when man don't understand God's word and hide from the truth of convictions of their sin, they usually make a doctrine or theology and skip over the truth.... which brings about false teachers and false doctrines
And as Jesus say men love dark and when you get into senseless debates and arguments over what God has already said, its only because the person is in darkness and blinded to God WORD OF TRUTH...
Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Literal translation
Mar 1:15 and saying, The time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent and believe in the gospel.
New King James
Mark 15:1 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
Darby
Mark 15:1 and saying, The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God has drawn nigh; repent and believe in the glad tidings
Nowhere in this particular verse is there 'ANY' mention as to 'Repenting of sin.
A person is to be repenting of their 'UNBELIEF' to believing the Gospel of Yehsua..
Repentance from sin before Yeshua has given a person life,this is impossible.
Also this would be salvation of works,the work being to 'REPENT' of sin(s).
Repentance after trusting Yeshua is the complete working and empowering of the Holy Spirit within a person.
The Arminians say that the calvanists say that Regeneration cannot happen before a person has made a decision of their free will to trust /believe Yeshua to save them.
Yet these same Arminians have the Holy Spirit empowering them unto repentance before trusting Yeshua to save them.
My,my,my,someone is not believing the Gospel unto Salvation.
According to their writings,Someone is not the Elect of YHWH.
Now who is this the calvanist,or the arminians.
Mat_6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and free will.
GGGGGGGGRRRRRRR!... GEOREGE, WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD DO YOU THINK UNBELIEF IS ALL ABOUT????
When a person does not believe in Jesus IS THIS SIN or what? And a person who DOES NOT believe in Jesus DOES NOT LIVE A LIFE STYLE PLEASING TO GOD AND COMMiT EVERY SIN they think they are big enough to commit.
Maybe you should look up what it means to be in unbelief, and the cause unbelief... and the cause of sin, and what Jesus says about a person who DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL, AND LIVES IN DARKNESS.
