Especially when there is a disagreement on Forums.
It is good that All truth of the Sciptures is posted.
Too many False beliefs on here.
Me
Yes aneg,many false beliefs.
As the belief that a person of their 'OWN' free will have made a decision to trusting Yeshua to save them.
2Pe_3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Such as those that believe Repentance of sin is before trusting Yeshua to saving them from the wrath of YWHW.
Mar 1:15 and saying, The time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent and believe in the gospel.
As a person needs to repent of their sin,is order to be saved seeing that Yeshua cannot save anyone that has not repented of sin.
Joh 3:18 The one believing into Him is not condemned; but the one not believing has already been condemned, for he has not believed into the name of the only begotten Son of God.
That the Holy Spirit cannot reside within a person that has not 'CLEANED' the inside of the cup.
Joh 14:17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive because it does not see Him nor know Him. But you know Him, for He abides with you and shall be in you.
Luk 11:13 Then if you being evil know to give good gifts to your children, how much more the Father out of Heaven will give the Holy Spirit to those asking Him.
That a person needs to repent of sin,make a confession of Yeshua,and be baptized to be saved.
Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh_3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
That a person can do something to being the elect of YHWH.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
The English word 'CHOSEN' here is the Greek word 'eklegomai'
from where we get the English word 'ELECT' from.WHoa.
That faith is not a gift / CHARISMA of YHWH.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
The English word 'GIFT' here is the Greek word 'CHARISMA' where we have our English word 'GRACE'.
And most Disciples in Yeshua know what Grace is;
This is the 'UMERITED,UNEARNED' power of YHWH to doing that which YHWH would have one to be doing.
That tithing is necessasry to salvation.
This should be self explainatory.
A person needs to have a man over them,in order to teach them the things of YHWH.
1Jn_2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
English-Unction
Greek-CHARISMA
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χρίσμα
chrisma
Thayer Definition:
1) anything smeared on, unguent, ointment, usually prepared by the Hebrews from oil and aromatic herbs. Anointing was the inaugural ceremony for priests
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from G5548
reek-CHARISMA
There have been many more such 'FALSE TEACHINGS', on this forum and especially within the body of Yesuha;
which people hold onto as though these false teaching have any Biblical truth.
Yet there have been many Biblically accurate teachings on this forum,and within the body of Yeshua which have been OPPOSED by those wanting to hold onto their man-made teachings,doctrines,traditions,and philosophies...
Yeshua came into this life to give 'LIFE' that is the LIFE of YHWH to those that are Spiritually DEAD.
Joh_10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
These spirituallu dead people cannot make any decisions of their so-called FREE WILL,seeing that their will is dead in their trespasses and sins.
Joh_8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Eph_2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Yeshua is the one which 'BESTOWS LIFE' to those He will give life to.
Joh 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The Life which Yeshua 'GIVES' He gives to his 'Elect','Everyone'
is not the Elect of Yeshua.
Joh 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Joh 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
Joh 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
Repentance is a GIFT of the Grace of YHWH.
Rom 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, and the forbearance and the long-suffering, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
Rom_3:4 Let it not be! But let God be true, and every man a liar; even as it has been written, "That You should be justified in Your words, and will overcome in Your being judged." LXX-Psa. 50:6; MT-Psa. 51:4
Joh 14:17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive because it does not see Him nor know Him. But you know Him, for He abides with you and shall be in you.
Luk 11:13 Then if you being evil know to give good gifts to your children, how much more the Father out of Heaven will give the Holy Spirit to those asking Him.
George it is not hard for those to see, where others are way off, it is not n what they say as much knowing them by their fruits.
For example these afore mentioned scriptures are the word of God but you have always denied their truth and went according to the traditions of men which is that you would determine what is said in lieu of studying out the topic and believing it.
"For example these afore mentioned scriptures are the word of God but you have always denied their truth and went according to the traditions of men which is that you would determine what is said in lieu of studying out the topic and believing it."
This is sorcery!
Look at what pj counsels and of how he proclaims that George is believing ...the traditions of men... NOW GET THIS..."in lieu of studying out the topic and believing it."
Pj's counsel, is that George may learn, if only he takes Pj's advice. Pj does not once make belief reliant upon the Holy Spirit.
Pj never mentions the ABSOLUTE POWER of the Word of God. PJ states that spiritual knowledge, does not come from revelation, but from "STUDYING OUT THE TOPIC AND BELIEVING IT!"
A man has to be enabled to believe by the Holy Spirit:
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." [I Cor 2:14]
It is written that the Lord was required to open the heart of Lydia, "so that she heeded the things which were spoken of by Paul", and you counsel that a man may arrogate the wondrous anointed spiritual teachings of the Holy Spirit, by just merely wanting to?
"And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul."
[Acts 16:14]
This is not like one is preparing for a high school test, that all which is necessary is to just walk up and lay a hand on a book, and arrogate the wondrous spiritual knowledge of God, "in lieu of".
You have reduced the very necessary work of the Holy Spirit to nothing, stating that a man may partake of this knowledge "in lieu of"..
George's thread reads: False Teachings on this forum!!!!
Ella says: aaaaaaawwwwww poooooooorrrr baaaaby, call Judge Judy!... I bet she'll fit it:applause::glow::waving::party::yay::rocknroll::purpleangel::dunce::angel::hearts::zzzz::nahnah::devil::buddies::boxing::ribbit::ROFL::stop::dancingp::peace::toomuch::bow::bunny::bouncy::prayingf::excited::Mug::laugh::rolleyes::eat::winksmile::angeldevil::MrT::goofball:...George do you need a nurse to nures your wounds until Judge Judt checks in:nicenurse::ROFL:
Jesus said you must repent of your sins and turn from your wicked ways; not me.
I am a Believer and anyone, that is saved knows it is not of our own doing but by the grace of God.
You have to have FAITH in Jesus as your personal savior. There is a responsibility on you to except Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God; and is profitable for doctrine, for reporof, for correction, for instructin in rightousness. II timothy 3:16
Please give your Biblical reasons for your answers,not just emotion outbursts.
Shalom
Me
@POC...try not attacking people who share the truth.
@POC
these are not emotion outbursts. It is trying to share truth.
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall recive the gift of the Holy Ghost.( Acts. 2:18)
In Paul's own words, "Therefor bing justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ"( Romans 5:11)
Jesus said you must repent of your sins and turn from your wicked ways; not me.
Me
Where is your Biblical proof for this.
angel:
I am a Believer and anyone, that is saved knows it is not of our own doing but by the grace of God.
Me
Again where is your Biblical proof.
angel:
You have to have FAITH in Jesus as your personal savior. There is a responsibility on you to except Jesus.
Me
Again give your Biblical proof.
With these above statements,there needs to be Biblical proof / reasoning,not just your words.
WHen Yeshua says to Make disciples,and to proclaim the Gospel.
Will you be using the Word of YHWH or just you own words.
One has power to change a person,the other does not.
Me
Please give your Biblical reasons for your answers,not just emotion outbursts.
Shalom
Me
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False Teachings on this forum!!!!
Posted : 28 Nov, 2011 02:10 PM
Me
Please give your Biblical reasons for your answers,not just emotion outbursts.
Shalom
Me
Angel says;
@POC...try not attacking people who share the truth.
Me:
angel you actually consider these 'ATTACKS' against someone sharing truth.
First,You have no idea what being Attacked actuall looks like.
Second,The only truth i am interested in is The Word of YHWH.
@POC
these are not emotion outbursts. It is trying to share truth.
angel
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall recive the gift of the Holy Ghost.( Acts. 2:18)
Me
There is no mention of Repenting of sin(s) in this particular Scripture.
angel:
In Paul's own words, "Therefor bing justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ"( Romans 5:11)
Me
Again No mention of Repenting of sin(s).
Being Justified is a Legal term.
And PEACE is the end result.
Shalom
Me
ps:
angel,if a person is bringing to your attention that you need the word of YHWH,not just your words,
And you think that you are being 'ATTACKED',Talk about perception that is blown out of of proportion.
There is no mention of Repenting of sin(s) in this particular Scripture.
*** Yup...and there are Plenty of Scripture that say...REPENT !!!...jus cuz it Aint in this one dont give a Person a reason to Deny it Aint SO...WOW !!!...Talk about False Teachins...people jus wanna Pick and Choose what the Word says instead of Pickin it All and Applyin it All...Literally and not Metaphoricly...:winksmile:...Be Blessed...xo
