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To Elisha
Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 06:10 AM

To elisha:



Hello missy:



I hope that you will be having a Blessed and safe weekend.



I would ask you to read a few of the past postings i had written before you continue SUGGESTING that i am not saved.

I also highly recommend this to the other so-called SPirit filled people which are in the same boat as you are,

Yet the boat has a huge hole in the starboard side,



The boat is beyond repair,it needs to be destroyed and you will need a BRAND new boat.maybe the ARK named YESHUA.



Remember a lot of the Scriptures are set in a court room setting.

A person will need to understand the affairs of the legal system to understand these particular Scriptures





I will post one in particular.



Mat 18:15 But if your brother may sin against you, go and reprove him between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Mat 18:16 But if he does not hear, take one or two more with you, "so that on the mouth of two" or "three witnesses every word may stand". Deut. 19:15

Mat 18:17 But if he fails to hear them, tell it to the assembly. And if he also fails to hear the assembly, let him be to you as the nations and the tax collector.

Mat 18:18 Truly I say to you, Whatever you bind on the earth will be, having been bound in Heaven. And whatever you loose on the earth will be, having been loosed in Heaven.

Mat 18:19 Again I say to you, If two of you agree on earth as to anything, whatever they shall ask, it shall be to them from My Father in Heaven.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst.





Shalom and Chesed

The Farmer



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By the way,where do you believe the understanding i have of YHWH,Yeshua,and the Ruach Qodesh / Holy Spirit, including the Word of YHWH;is coming from.



From reading the reformers?

I do not read anything from the reformers.



From so-called church history.

I have not read ANY so-called church history,Only the Word of YHWH.



Do i just arbitrarily pull understanding of Scripture from my back pocket.



I ask YHWH for wisdom and understanding, and He graciously bestows this to me.

He says in His WORD,this admonition / encouragement



2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

If you had understood this Adminition you would not have been so quick as to have been judging me as an unbeliever.



I read and study using a KJV Hebrew-Greek key study bible.

This has a Hebrew,and Greek Lexicon of Biblical words,There is also a Strongs Concordance.

This particular Bible has the Strongs numbering system to highlight the key words of the verse of Scripture i am reading.

There are also the TENSES of the Greek language therein.





I also use The Interlinear Bible of the New Covenant, which has the Strongs numbering in place above EVERY word.



I also have a complete Hebrew and Greek Interlinear,which was given to me by a Lady which has been reading the Greek for about 20 years.

I am a Novice when it comes to the Hebrew and Greek,yet i do use every means possible to understand both othe these languages.



I also use a Strongs Dictionary of Biblical words,both Old Covenant and the New.



On line i use biblos.com ( I prefer this site over others)

E-sword

Blue letter Bible



The Ruach Qodesh / Holy Spirit has put within me to not being

content with what has been going on wthin the body of Yeshua,this has been from the very first day of Yeshua having Tanslated me from darkness into His Marvelous,

Glorious KINGSHIP.



I personally do not have the intelligence to be understanding the Word of YHWH,for it is only by His Ruach Qodesh / Holy Spirit that i could have the understanding which has been given to me.





Here is a Biblical warning to you and the others which contiually call me an unbeliever,needing to be trusting Yeshua to save me,

And needing to be filled with the Holy SPirit.



Mat 7:1 Do not judge, that you may not be judged;

Mat 7:2 for with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured again to you.

Mat 7:3 But why do you look on the twig that is in the eye of your brother, but do not see the log in your eye?

Mat 7:4 Or how will you say to your brother, Allow me to cast out the twig from your eye; and behold, the log is in your eye!



Joh 7:24 Do not judge according to sight, but judge righteous judgment.









Shalom and Chesed

The Farmer

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 07:42 AM

George it all sounds real spieirual but it is a cloud of smoke.





The Holy Spirit does not endorse any one operating in the flesh.

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 08:48 AM

An open rebuke,and admonition to Peejay



To Peejay:

Hey Peej;

When did you change you name to Elisha.

Have you been dipping into the female hormone pills again.



Peej writes

George it all sounds real spieirual but it is a cloud of smoke. The Holy Spirit does not endorse any one operating in the flesh.



The Farmer

Well then i do not believe that the Ruach Qodesh ENDORSES ANYTHING you write or have to be saying to myself or anyone else..

Talk about the frying pan calling the kettle an Unbeliever.



Look in the mirror when you talk about me.



The Farmer

Hey Peej,

From your response to my open letter to Elisha, i 'DISCERN' from your past writings until this one,that you are COMPLETELY against a person Using any Biblical means necessary to Study and Understand the Word of YHWH.

This is just one of the many reasons you follow my writings, and do NOTHING but CRITCIZE,me,and continually ACCUSE,me of not being filled with the Ruach Qodesh (Learn some Hebrew by looking this up).



You also ASSUME that you have the Ruach Qudesh which gives you the permission,and power to make such Accusations against me,and others..

My my,yet is this not against the Word of YHWH,by which the Ruach Qodesh had empowered others to write the Scriptures; which you violate when you make your many accusations.

And we know the Ruach Qodesh will never violate the Scriptures,which He has empowered men to write,and to understand.



Mat 18:15 But if your brother may sin against you, go and reprove him between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Mat 18:16 But if he does not hear, take one or two more with you, "so that on the mouth of two" or "three witnesses every word may stand". Deut. 19:15

Mat 18:17 But if he fails to hear them, tell it to the assembly. And if he also fails to hear the assembly, let him be to you as the nations and the tax collector.

Mat 18:18 Truly I say to you, Whatever you bind on the earth will be, having been bound in Heaven. And whatever you loose on the earth will be, having been loosed in Heaven. Mat 18:19 Again I say to you, If two of you agree on earth as to anything, whatever they shall ask, it shall be to them from My Father in Heaven.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst.



I emplore you to be bringing your finding of my SINNING against you.

Then bring others into the Fray.

Then bring that before the Admin here and then let them using the Word of YHWH discipline me.



But as far as you are concerned,you are just a pest,like a mosquito,one look for a live person to drain blood from.

Well,i happen to be alive,Spiritually,and have much blood,but not one drop for you to be draining me of.



Please do me a favor and do not answer anything i write. Seeing that you have no understanding of the WOrd of YHWH,Nor of the Triune GODHEAD.

Nor is there ANY evidence that you have any POWER of the Ruach Qodesh in order to STUDY the Word of YHWH.



Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.



The Farmer

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 09:19 AM

George there is no rebuke from you, no man can curse whom gid has blessed, those that are in the flesh have no authority to rebuke any one.



George as a student of the word one would notice that the word of God call's for responsibility of man to be a doer of the word of God.



Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.



The believer with his ear to the word and the spirit know the responsibility of man to walk in the spirit.



Ga 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?



They where in the flesh......Ga 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.



The condition, no man can walk in the spirit without knowing the word of God.Ga 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.





George The Holy Spirit is not revealing anything to anyone that is not in agreement with the word, and all the terms you throw around do not make you spiritual.



The holy spirit does not teach anyone that tithing is bondage and old testament



He does not lead anyone to deny what the word declares of the church



He does not lead any one to proclaim as you do about pastor's



He does lead any one to make the comments you do about worship.



He does not teach any one that he can know God with their mind.



The holy spirit will not respond to anything that is not of faith.



The Holy Spirit would never say to any man that man can not respond to the word of God.



George if you insist it is a spirit teaching you that leaves only one choice.



No it is not the holy spirit revealing your strife to you, he is not in strife with the word of God.

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 09:19 AM

George there is no rebuke from you, no man can curse whom gid has blessed, those that are in the flesh have no authority to rebuke any one.



George as a student of the word one would notice that the word of God call's for responsibility of man to be a doer of the word of God.



Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.



The believer with his ear to the word and the spirit know the responsibility of man to walk in the spirit.



Ga 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?



They where in the flesh......Ga 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.



The condition, no man can walk in the spirit without knowing the word of God.Ga 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.





George The Holy Spirit is not revealing anything to anyone that is not in agreement with the word, and all the terms you throw around do not make you spiritual.



The holy spirit does not teach anyone that tithing is bondage and old testament



He does not lead anyone to deny what the word declares of the church



He does not lead any one to proclaim as you do about pastor's



He does lead any one to make the comments you do about worship.



He does not teach any one that he can know God with their mind.



The holy spirit will not respond to anything that is not of faith.



The Holy Spirit would never say to any man that man can not respond to the word of God.



George if you insist it is a spirit teaching you that leaves only one choice.



No it is not the holy spirit revealing your strife to you, he is not in strife with the word of God.

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 12:03 PM

George, I never ever suggested you were not saved, If you think I said that you misunderstood! all I ever suggested was you did not have the babtisim of the Holy Spirit which is seperate from salvation and I have alwasys said its not my place to juge the condition of anyones soul!

My asumption that your not spirit filled was based on comments you have made in the past concerning the gifts of the spirit and prayer language! I never said you werent saved ao I apoligize that you misunderstood what I said, I try to speak so everyone can understand but sometimes people misread or read their own conclusion into what otheres wright! If I said something that sounded like thats what I meant or was implying then I apologize I did not ever mean that as its not my place!



ps I only read the first line or 2 in this thread as I am pushed for time and your threads can be lengthy and drawn out I hope i adressed your concern and I am sorry it upset you so much!

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 01:24 PM

UH, Georeg, did you mean the Ruach ha-kodesh, which is Hebrew word for Holy Spirit? Or do you mean Pneuma which is the Greek word for the Holy Spirit?

Unbelieveable!... I'm comnfused... you've gone from supportedly being fluent in the Greek language of words to speaking the Hebrew language...

What shall we say to these things?... I guess you can call it SPEAKING IN TONGUES:ROFL:

Elisha, don't pay George any mind, he accuses you and everyone else of not being saved or filled with the Holy Spirit and in need of Jesus, but gets upset when its obvious he didn't have a clue as to who the person of the Holy Spirit is in his own life, nor the attributes of the Holy Spirit's personhood... he can't even correctly explain one verse he has posted on his own, and doesn't even understand what it is he is posting...:zzzz:

Elsiha, you're doing just fine and one thing I can say, YOU KNOW THE WORD OF GOD FOR YOUR PERSONAL SELF, AND THE WORD OF GOD HAS SPOKEN THROUGH YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCES AS KNOWING YOU, and this is why you are pretty sound in explaining the scriptures. Because the scriptures (WORD) KNOWS YOU!:applause::angel::hearts:

A person can quote scrioptures all day, but the scriotures don't quote the person's behavior or life-style... which says a lot about knowing and being KNOWN by God Himself...

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 01:27 PM

elisha writes



George, I never ever suggested you were not saved, If you think I said that you misunderstood! all I ever suggested was you did not have the babtisim of the Holy Spirit which is seperate from salvation and I have alwasys said its not my place to juge the condition of anyones soul!



My asumption that your not spirit filled was based on comments you have made in the past concerning the gifts of the spirit and prayer language!





The farmer

I would ask you to copy and paste my writings about the Holy Spirit that you believe are not of the Holy SPirit.



If you are not able to copy and paste,then paste the Date of the post and i will copy and paste.



The we can lok at these,and see where you are getting your understanding from.



Shalom

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 01:31 PM

@POC



Romans 8 Chapter- Life in the Spirit.

Read -study- apply



Anyone with the HOLY SPIRIT does not fight against

other Believers about the HOLY SPIRIT, in sharing the

Word of God.



:glow:



:peace:

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 02:32 PM

To angel:



Angel i know that your perception of me and what i write is a bit distorted,

You are even sugessting that i happen to be fighting with you and others about the Holy Spirit..



@POC

Romans 8 Chapter- Life in the Spirit.

Read -study- apply



Anyone with the HOLY SPIRIT does not fight against

other Believers about the HOLY SPIRIT, in sharing the

Word of God.





The Farmer

angel since when is bringing the truth to the open,when is this considered figthing.



Yet i do know and understand that this is one of the many tactics the Health and wealthers will use to try and make themselves look good..



I have read the book to the Assembly at Rome quite a few times.

Chapter eight is one of Great encouragement to me seeing that there is NOW NO CONDEMNATION TO ME, as I had

been placed into Yesuha,from before the foudndation of the world.



I would suggest that you read,and STUDY not only Roamns chapter 8,but the whole entire book to the Assembly at Rome.



Maybe then you might have the Great encouragement i have being in Yeshua.



Shalom

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2011 03:12 PM

Here is a statement that invites condemnation to the author of it:



Yet I do know and understand that this is one of the many tactics the Health and wealthers will use to try and make themselves look good



This statement is Anti Father



This statement Anti Jesus



This statement is Anti Holy Spirit



This statement is Anti word of God



This statement is Anti Gospel



This statment is totally against the sacrifice and substitute of the lord Jesus Christ



It is totally as described as being the way of Cain as one of those operating in the flesh.

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