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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:13 PM

For Christians because the Jews were required to keep it according to Levitical LAW of the Old Testament. So, since the Levitical Law was done away with by Christ's work on the cross, then so too, is the REQUIREMENT of tithes, or tithing all together for Christians. There is no example of tithing in New Testament Scripture to show that it was practiced by Christians within its proper context.





Do you agree?





If not, can you show me some New Testament verse where it says that a Christian must tithe 10%, please?



Thanks for your responses in advance.

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:16 PM

It does not have anything to do with the new testament, it is amteer of one is born again or not.



Carnality does not accept the word of God.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:19 PM

PJ, I honestly don't know what you are trying to say, brother. Can you try to explain yourself a bit further, please?



Do you mean that tithing is not required, or is not Scriptural for the Christian?



Or do you mean that tithing is required for the born again believer?



I'm a bit confused at your answer.



Thanks for your clarification in advance, brother.

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:26 PM

Yes Christians are to be a doer of the word of God, the addage that is old testament is well you know.

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:26 PM

Yes Christians are to be a doer of the word of God, the addage that is old testament is well you know.

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:30 PM

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:26 PM





Yes Christians are to be a doer of the word of God, the addage that is old testament is well you know.









ME: So, PJ, are you saying that a Christian SHOULD tithe in the church the same way as it was required in the Old Testament for the Jews? Is that what you are saying?

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:32 PM

Tithing has been since the beginning it has never changed.



When do you suppose the god of the tithe changed.

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:35 PM

Agape,



I believe there is an argumentative spirit here, so no matter what you say it will always be challenged and the effort futile, at least that is what I have observed.

It's quite possible what you say is true. I believe the church is supposed to be more like the first century church in the book of Acts. The word says that that material assets were distributed according to need, therefore, if a brother or sister is in need it is up to the Body of Christ to meet that need. Sadly, I don't see a lot of churches doing that, however, I'm sure there are some that do.

I think churches need to be more transparent with their finances and should report where the offering is going.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:42 PM

Shalom telling the truth is not argumentative but proclaiming another doctrine is to be marked and ignored by Christians.



The bible clearly states that carnality is at enmity with the lord. that is hatred.



The bible says the tithe is the lord's does it not, so tell me when he changed his mind and his pupose for the tithe.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 06:03 PM

Let us have the Word of YHWH speak on htis matter.



'Tithes and OFFERINGS'



Malachi 3:8



(KJV) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.



(KJV+) Will a manH120 robH6906 God?H430 YetH3588 yeH859 have robbedH6906 me. But ye say,H559 WhereinH4100 have we robbedH6906 thee? In tithesH4643 and offerings.H8641



Deu_12:6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:

Deu_12:11 Then there shall be a place which the LORD your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the LORD:

2Ch_31:12 And brought in the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler, and Shimei his brother was the next.

Neh_10:37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

Neh_12:44 And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited.

Neh_13:5 And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.

Mal_3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.





(YLT) Doth man deceive God? but ye are deceiving Me, And ye have said: `In what have we deceived Thee?' The tithe and the heave-offering!







In the following verses we find that the 'TITHES and OFFERINGS' were to be given together,thus Tithes and Offerings.



My question to the believers which are pushing this Old Covenant principle is this.



When you give of your TITHE are you also giving the required Sacrifice to go along with the Tithe.

If you are not then Malachi says this to you.



(YLT) Doth man deceive God? but ye are deceiving Me, And ye have said: `In what have we deceived Thee?' The tithe and the heave-offering!



And we no that there are no robbers in the Kingship of YHWH.



1Co_6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.



So then could the 'church' be full of theives if the do not give the required sacrifice.



Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.





The body of believers has Yeshua as their eternal sacrifice.

He also is their tithe,seeing that He also is the ONLY sacrifice required of YHWH to take away the sin(s) of men.



Glory to Yeshua.



Shalom

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Tithing is Biblical for Jews BUT it's NOT Scriptural..
Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 06:13 PM

George George you try real hard but no cigar, of course you will not agree you do not even accept any of the word of God.



Btw George you left out the sovereignity statement here.

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