Tithing is mentioned 15 times in the OT and Zero times in the NT. Giving a tenth is mentioned in Hebrews 7:4-9 about Abraham giving a tenth to Melchizadek and giving a tenth is mentioned 3 other times in the NT in Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42 and Luke 18:10-14 as follows: The saints are commanded to give to the poor directly and not through the Church. The saints held church in houses . There is no mention of any money given for a church building in the NT.
Giving a tenth is only mentioned 3 times in the NT besides Hebrew 7:4-9 as follows:
Matthew 23:23 Jesus says "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness!"
Luke 11:42: Jesus says, "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God!"
Luke 18:10-14: Jesus says," Jesus says, "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: "God I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers-- or even like this tax collector. I Fast twice a week and give a **TENTH** of all I get!" " But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would no even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, "God, have mercy on me, a sinner." "I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God!!"
In the New Covenant God's saints give directly to the poor and worship in private houses as per Romans 16:5; I Cor 16:19 & Philemon 1:2. There is no mention of giving to the church for the poor or giving money for church buildings. Only giving to the Pastors are mentioned.
In the old covenant God's commandments were only preached to Jews but in the New Covenant Jesus commands us to preach to every nation in the world teaching them to obey *EVERYTHING* He commanded and everything would also include all of the approximately 400 NT commandments also taught in Acts to Revelation {See 2 Timothy 3-16 to 4:2.}
Jesus also eliminated the earthly rewards for faithful service and commanded us to sell our possessions and give to the poor and get *TREASURES IN HEAVEN* and **THEN** come follow Him.
Luke 12:33,34: Jesus says, �Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted....For where your treasure is there your heart will be also.�
The early NT saints obeyed these new commandments:
Acts 2:44: All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possession and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had!"
Ephesians 4:28: "Work so that you can share with those in need!"
The Prosperity Gospel of Joel Osteen and PJ is straight from Satan's Gospel.:applause::angel::peace:
Matthew 20:20-24: �All these {Commandments} I have kept, the young man said. �What do I still lack?� Jesus answered, �If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. **THEN** come, follow Me.� When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus says, �It is hard for a rich man to enter the *KINGDOM OF HEAVEN*. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the *KINGDOM OF GOD*.�
Tithing is mentioned 15 times in the OT and Zero times in the NT. Giving a tenth is mentioned in Hebrews 7:4-9 about Abraham giving a tenth to Melchizadek and giving a tenth is mentioned 3 other times in the NT in Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42 and Luke 18:10-14 as follows: The saints are commanded to give to the poor directly and not through the Church. The saints held church in houses . There is no mention of any money given for a church building in the NT.
Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a **NEW COVENANT** so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the SACRIFICE of Himself... so Christ was SACRIFICED ONCE to take away the sins of many people, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
Hebrews 8:8,9,13: God found fault with the people and said {In Exodus 25:40}: The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a **NEW COVENANT**{Read Deut 18:17-19!!} with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will **NOT** be like the covenant I made with their forefathers.....By calling this covenant **NEW**, He made the first one **OBSOLETE**; and what is **OBSOLETE** and aging will soon disappear.� {When all the words of the New Covenant were completed by the Book of Revelation in AD 96!!}
Hebrew 10:8-10: Jesus said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them. Although the law required them to be made. The He {Jesus} said. "Here I am, I have come to do your will." He {Jesus} set aside the first {Covenant} to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus ONCE FOR ALL!!
Matthew 19:27-30: Peter said to Jesus, �We have left EVERYTHING to follow you! What then will there be for us?� Jesus says, �I tell you the Truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me {Including Paul}will also sit on 12 thrones...And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for My sake will receive 100 times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last {In this life}will be first.� And there will be plenty of room for 100 houses and 100 fields in the New Jerusalem since it will be over 1377 miles long and wide and high.
I John 2:3-5: �We know that we have come to know Him if we *OBEY HIS COMMANDS*. The man who says, �I know him,� but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in Him.�
2 Corinthians 6:4-10: As servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses, in beatings, imprisonments; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love, in truthful speech and in the power of God; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; dying, and yet we live on; beaten and yet not killed; *POOR*, yet making many rich; *HAVING NOTHING*; and yet possessing everything.�
I Timothy 6:5-10: There are men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain....If we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge them into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all evil.:applause::angel::peace:
PJ, keep it movin... if Richard, and George, and Agapeton and whomever don't have enough faith to believe in tithing or giving to church,, or don't feel a need in their hearts to give or believe in the church, or that the Old Testament is still valid or whatever, as true Christians believers do, so what? That's between them and their God, you just keep doing what you're doing, these are rebellious gainsayers and they will have to answer for their good works, or dead works, and vain works and vain faith, whatever and however God will judge them in their giving and not giving and their unbelif in the WHOLE WORD OF GOD OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT..
God said every person will be judged according to what they have done and haven't done in the flesh and spiritually, whether its good or bad; everyone will be judged for good deeds out of knowign the truth and doing it, or bad deeds out of ignornace and not knowing to do; and out of knowing to do but out of a rebellion heart refuse not to do what they know to do right, which is sin...
Every person will be judeg according to the law of what they know and without the law of what the don't know...
One thing for sure you sure cant go wrong for giving to the church ministry of the Lord.
If you asked Richard to explain one of the passages he has posted he couldn't, so there you have that,., all he can do is post what he doesn't understand without explaining it.
So keep it moving God's got your back and is looking out for you, and you have seen and are seeing the blessings in your life of the promosies God ahs made to those who give freely of thier increase.
You, Keep tithing and giving and receiving the blessings. Paul teaches us not to allow the devil to steal away from us those blessings and rewards God has promised us.
So obey what you know to be true of God's words, and not what George's and Agapeton's , and Richard's word say Christians shouldn;'t be doign when it comes to the church and giving of your increase, cause you ain't got to answer in the great judgment to them but to God, and your blessings and rewards don't come from neither one of them, BUT FROM GOD!...
SO WHO YOU GONNA CALL WHEN YOU HAVE NEED OR WANT???... THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! not neither one of them.
PJ, keep it movin... if Richard, and George, and Agapeton and whomever don't have enough faith to believe in tithing or giving to church,, or don't feel a need in their hearts to give or believe in the church, or that the Old Testament is still valid or whatever, as true Christians believers do, so what? That's between them and their God, you just keep doing what you're doing, these are rebellious gainsayers and they will have to answer for their good works, or dead works, and vain works and vain faith, whatever and however God will judge them in their giving and not giving and their unbelif in the WHOLE WORD OF GOD OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT..
The Farmer
Being a disciple of Yeshua involves KNOWING the truth,as revealed within the Scriptures.
I will post a small amount of the truth about the BIG BUSINESS called 'THE CHURCH'.
The people which are not involved with what i write, i appreciate these men,women and children.
I can only speak for myself.
I have been given FAITH-PISTEUO to be trusting YHWH and His Word.
English-Faith
Greek-Pisteuo
G4100
πιστεύω
pisteuō
Thayer Definition:
1) to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in
1a) of the thing believed
1a1) to credit, have confidence
1b) in a moral or religious reference
1b1) used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul
1b2) to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith
2) to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity
2a) to be intrusted with a thing
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from G4102
Since 'TITHING' is not within the annuls of the 'NEW COVENANT', i do not believe that ANY person is OBLIGATED to give ANYTHING to anyone or any establishment..
People have been spiritually BEATEN into giving.
Much FALSE GUILT,has been laid upon the people which are ignorant of the Word of YHWH..
Most of the funds are squandered by the so-called senior pastors,pastors,leaders,CLERGY..
This is what your 'TITHE' is used for!
Your 'TITHES' and others SUPPOSEDLY at work.
These funds are used for SALARIES (And some of these charlitans are RAKING in the dough as the people PERISH in their UNBELIEF).
There are a lot of six and seven figured salaries,even as there are people which cannot make ends meet.
How about Health benefits
There is housing for these crooks
Either for renting a place to meet or for MORTGAGES.
Electricity
Water
BUILDING MAINTENANCE
Repairs of plumbing,electricity,damage to walls,ceilings,and floors.
Painting and repairing crakcs and holes in the buildings structure.
So called worship team salaries.
Instruments and the maintianing of them.
Chairs & tables
Some places by books for people to read,along with making CDs of the meeting,YET these are then sold back to the people for a small PROFIT.
Here is a tremendous theft being funded by these ill gotten funds from the people.
Traveling within the country once called America ( Now called the HOMELAND).
Traveling ABROAD oveseas,at the EXPENSE of the Sheeples tithing.
These rip-offs artists say this is necessary for them to be speaking at places that have invited them.
They also claim they are doing OUTREACH,to start a church where one has not been established.
There is so much more then what i have written.
The conclusion:
IF the people had been instructed with the truth of the WOrd of YHWH about 'TITHING',these places might not be here today.
There is to be seperation of the believers and the governments.
The 'church' is a 'BUSINESS' violating the Word of YHWH,even ACCEPTING from the Government tax exempt status.
Yet what has Yeshua said concerning this.
Mat 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
Mat 22:19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
Mat 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Mat 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
For this purpose the 'church' does not hear about the deep things of YHWH.
Instead their ears are being tickled as they EMBRACE the things of the WORLD.
I hope you have a Blessed and safe week.
Shalom
The Farmer
ps:
Joh 8:31 Then Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in Him, If you continue in My Word, you are truly My disciples.
Joh 8:32 And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
