To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 12:52 PM
Luk 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the YEAR of the Lord's favor." 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."
The Passage that Jesus read was from the book of Isaiah from chapter 61 verses 1 and two. " The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound; to proclaim the YEAR of the LORD's favor, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all who mourn;.."
Question: If Jesus was the Lamb of God who would take away the sins of the world, He would have to fulfill all the Scriptures about being the lamb, correct?
With that being said: If we are to take Luke's chronological account (Luke 1:3) of Jesus' ministry on earth; where do we get the idea of Him being anointed and baptized to His crucifixion being a total of THREE YEARS when The Scriptures only say that the ACCEPTABLE time was ONE YEAR?
Does that make sense? Seriously. If the Scriptures say that the Lamb who was to be slain was also to be of ONE YEAR (Exodus 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a YEAR old...), then where did, or do we get the idea of Jesus' earthly ministry was THREE YEARS from?
Did Jesus, the lamb of God, sacrifice a lamb at the temple those 2 of the 3 years since he followed the Law on the passover, or was it only one year since he did this?
How can we reconcile the fact that the synoptic gospels show it to be one year ministry and we come up with three years in Christendom?
Wouldn't it even further explain the fact that Jesus' one year ministry would be one major reason WHY Philo, the Jewish historian at the time of jesus' existing, didn't hear of him and write of him in his time in during the feasts that he attended there?
Can we find proof for this, or is it also a man made assumption that was accepted through out time? Can we find proof of this anywhere?
To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 01:36 PM
Agapeton, only unbelief need proof of God's word to be truth, which would eman that you DO NOT BELEIVE BY FAITH WHAT IS RECORDED IN GOD 'S WORD TO BE TRUE.
Again, I ask you.. what's your intent and purpose? It sure isn't to educate anyone, outside of what is already written. Are you seeking to prove that Jesus was not 30 years old when He started His ministry and was baptized? And that it was three years later that He died , OR what is it that you seek prove of and are you trying to prove.
You are in opposition to eveything the Bible state, so I wonder if indeed you are a true Christan believer by faith... you present yourself as someone who is an unbeliever until you are proven to you that what is recorded is true... I think you have need to check and balcnce your own salvation to see if it be of God or of your own mind and on your own terms... and not by faith to believe.
You also have need to understand waht is meant by Acceptable Year... go read a few good commentaries or seek counsel from your pastor, that is if he is a Bible belieiving minister of God's word and is in the body of Christ, not a doubter of what is written...
If you seek when His ministry started, is started after He was baptized according to what is written:
Luke 3: 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: �You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.�
23. Now Jesus himself was ABOUT THIRTY YEARS OLD when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph...
What next on your agenda to try and turn peopel AWAY from their faith under your disguise of trying to be informative.
Soon, I am wondering if I shouldl start a list of your oppositions to what the scirpture teaches.
This is the Acceptable Year you had better get your little self together in STUDYING, NOT READING, AND DOUBTING GOD'S WORD, BUT ALLOWING IT TO SINK DEEP INTO YOUR SPIRIT, AND COME OUT OF YOUR CARNAL MIND...
To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 01:41 PM
You have need to seek the Holy Spirit for His REVELATION OF GOD'S WORD... You don't have a spiritual clue as to what you are questioning or asking of proof! Nor do you know or understand what is meant by Jesus being the Lamb of God as God CALLS HIM... I think you should ask God why He calls Him the Lamb of God becasue you have no idead what you are asking or saying...:zzzz:
To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 01:47 PM
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To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 01:36 PM
Agapeton, only unbelief need proof of God's word to be truth, which would eman that you DO NOT BELEIVE BY FAITH WHAT IS RECORDED IN GOD 'S WORD TO BE TRUE.
Again, I ask you.. what's your intent and purpose? It sure isn't to educate anyone, outside of what is already written. Are you seeking to prove that Jesus was not 30 years old when He started His ministry and was baptized? And that it was three years later that He died , OR what is it that you seek prove of and are you trying to prove.
You are in opposition to eveything the Bible state, so I wonder if indeed you are a true Christan believer by faith... you present yourself as someone who is an unbeliever until you are proven to you that what is recorded is true... I think you have need to check and balcnce your own salvation to see if it be of God or of your own mind and on your own terms... and not by faith to believe.
You also have need to understand waht is meant by Acceptable Year... go read a few good commentaries or seek counsel from your pastor, that is if he is a Bible belieiving minister of God's word and is in the body of Christ, not a doubter of what is written...
If you seek when His ministry started, is started after He was baptized according to what is written:
Luke 3: 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: �You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.�
23. Now Jesus himself was ABOUT THIRTY YEARS OLD when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph...
What next on your agenda to try and turn peopel AWAY from their faith under your disguise of trying to be informative.
Soon, I am wondering if I shouldl start a list of your oppositions to what the scirpture teaches.
This is the Acceptable Year you had better get your little self together in STUDYING, NOT READING, AND DOUBTING GOD'S WORD, BUT ALLOWING IT TO SINK DEEP INTO YOUR SPIRIT, AND COME OUT OF YOUR CARNAL MIND...
ME: Sister DO YOU EVEN TRY TO ATTEMPT TO READ THE TEXT THAT IS LAID OUT IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE YOU JUDGE PEOPLE?
How can you even come up with the idea that I'm saying that Jesus isn't THIRTY YEARS OLD WHEN I STATED ABOUT HIS MINISTRY FROM THE TIME OF HIS BAPTISM TO THE CRUCIFIXION?"
HOW ABOUT YOU ACTUALLY READ THE TOPIC AND THEN ASKING WITHOUT CASTING JUDGEMENTS BASED ON YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE THINGS IN FRONT OF YOU?
MAN! Seriously. You are blind to certain SIMPLE truths of Scripture. THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) show that Jesus' ministry was ONE YEAR.
MY QUESTION IS AND WAS: WHERE DO WE GET THE IDEA THAT HIS MINISTRY FROM THE TIME OF HIS BAPTISM TO THE CROSS WAS THREE YEARS?
To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 02:21 PM
Agapeton, The problem is not me in judging YOU, but in judging what it is that YOU are trying to understand, and what it is you are in opposition to, as it relates to your purpose and intent without clarity of you being able to explain what it is you're seeking to understand; or what it is you would have others to even be spiritually enlighten with, as pretaining to the information you present. ... that so far, has not proven spiritually worthy to listen to, or to receive what it is you're trying to give out, because it is in opposiotin of biblical teachings and filled with doubts.
The tenor of your questions and comments sound more as if you are trying to denounce and say that what Christian believers believe in, is incorrect... because you have the correct answers, and that Christians don't know the truth of the matter.
So far you have denounced and judged Christian's beliefs in tithing, giving to churches, the Ten Commandments, and now here you go with this... I've asked before, what's next should Christian beleivers not believe in ? The Communion?...
Matthew Henry Commentary:
And he preached the acceptable year of the Lord. Let sinners attend to the Saviour's invitation when liberty is thus proclaimed. Christ's name was Wonderful; in nothing was he more so than in the word of his grace, and the power that went along with it. We may well wonder that he should speak such words of grace to such graceless wretches as mankind. Some prejudice often furnishes an objection against the humbling doctrine of the cross; and while it is the word of God that stirs up men's enmity, they will blame the conduct or manner of the speaker. The doctrine of God's sovereignty, his right to do his will, provokes proud men. They will not seek his favour in his own way; and are angry when others have the favours they neglect. Still is Jesus rejected by multitudes who hear the same message from his words. While they crucify him afresh by their sins, may we honour him as the Son of God, the Saviour of men, and seek to show we do so by our obedience.
Gill's Commentary Isaiah 61:2 - To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,.... Not an exact year, but time in general; for such are wrong, who from hence conclude that Christ's public ministry lasted but a year, since it is certain, by the passovers he kept, that it must be at least three or four years; the whole time of Christ on earth was an acceptable and desirable time, what many great personages desired to see, and did not: this time may take in the whole Gospel dispensation, which was ushered in by Christ: the allusion, as before observed, is to the year of jubilee, when there was a proclamation of liberty; of release of debts; of restoration of inheritances, and of cessation from work; all which must make it an acceptable year: and this proclamation was made on the day of atonement; and Jarchi interprets the phrase here of a "year of reconciliation"; or "the year of atonement to the Lord", as it maybe rendered; this was made by the sacrifice of Christ, and is proclaimed in the Gospel, and makes a most considerable part of it.
It may be rendered, "the year of the good will of the Lord"; and such was the time of Christ's coming on earth, to save men, and make peace and reconciliation for them, Luke 2:14 and was an "acceptable time" indeed; acceptable to the Lord himself; as were the incarnation of Christ, his obedience and righteousness, his sufferings and death, his sacrifice and satisfaction; since hereby the perfections of God were glorified, his purposes fulfilled, his covenant confirmed, and his people saved: acceptable to men; as were the birth of Christ; the things done by him; peace made, pardon procured, righteousness brought in, and salvation wrought out; all which must be acceptable to such who are lost, and know it, and are sensible that nothing of their own can save them; see 1 Timothy 1:15.
the day of vengeance of our God; when vengeance was taken on sin, in the person of Christ; when he destroyed the works of the devil, the devil himself, and spoiled principalities and powers; when he abolished death, and was the plague and destruction of that and the grave; when he brought wrath to the uttermost on the Jews for the rejection of him, who would not have him to reign over them; and who will take vengeance on antichrist at his spiritual coming, and upon all the wicked at the day of judgment. Kimchi understands this of the day when God shall take vengeance on Gog and Magog.
To comfort all that mourn: that are under afflictions, and mourn for them; and under a sense of sin, and mourn for that; who mourn for their own sins, indwelling sin, and their many actual transgressions; and for the sins of others, of profane persons, and especially professors of religion; these Christ comforts by his Spirit, by his word and ministers, by his promises, by his ordinances, and by the discoveries, of pardoning grace and mercy, "annum placabilem Jehovae", Vatablus; "annum placabilem Domino", V. L. (t) Heb. "annum benevolentiae, seu bneplaciti Jehovae", Piscator, Tigurine version; "annum complacentiae", Vitinga.
To preach the acceptable YEAR of the Lord... Luke 4:19..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 02:28 PM
Shared ~ How can we reconcile the fact that the synoptic gospels show it to be one year ministry and we come up with three years in Christendom?
*** I must admit..I've wondered this also...:rolleyes:...so where is it in the Bible that we can find Jesus Ministry was 3 years long...was he 30 years old and then Preached for 3 years and Crucified at 33 years of age ???...I've not found it...Anyone ???...There is a Time Line from Birth to Crucifiction...Right ???
Also...Some Theologens say that Saul/Paul was with Jesus for 3 years...I dont find that either...Anyone ???...xo