The father has and still does operate by faith and he expects his children to do the same.
One of the things faith does is call things that be not as though they where. What ever the word say about man is the father's love for you spoken in faith, with words full of faith for the hearer to receive.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
The first recorded example
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Another example by Jesus: This is Jesus faith talking:
Jn 11:8 His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again?
Jn 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Jn 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.
Jn 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
The father has and still does operate by faith and he expects his children to do the same.
One of the things faith does is call things that be not as though they where. What ever the word say about man is the father's love for you spoken in faith, with words full of faith for the hearer to receive.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
The first recorded example
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Another example by Jesus: This is Jesus faith talking:
Jn 11:8 His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again?
Jn 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Jn 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.
Jn 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
PJ,I have spoken with you about this before.
You are CLIAMING that YHWH,and Yeshua need 'FAITH; to be doing as the Scriptures say.
You are treading upon dangerous ground YOUNG MAN.
You have no understanding of YHWH and Yeshua both being Omnipotent,Omniscient and Omnipresent.
YHWH is the SELF EXISTING and SELF SUSTAINING ONE.
As the Father is so is the SON.
Joh 14:9 Jesus said to him, Am I so long a time with you, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one seeing Me has seen the Father! And how do you say, Show us the Father?
PJ as far as creation check this for yourself.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
Gen 1:2 and the earth being without form and empty, and darkness on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moving gently on the face of the waters,
Gen 1:3 then God said, Let light be! And there was light.
Where do you see ELOHIM needing faith for this.
This is the Omnipotent,Omnipresent,Omniscient, Elohim accomplishing what only ELOHIM can accomplish.
Creating from out of nothing,everything which we can see,and cannot see.
And you think you can call out of nothing that which can be seen.
We have seen some examples of that on this site concerning the promises of God:
For instance the first promise to church and the priority of the head of the church to the church.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
In the rejecting of this great promise some still flirt in the corruption of this world.
Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
