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dljrn04

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marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance
Posted : 7 Jan, 2012 02:01 PM

"What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all---to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow."

C. H. Spurgeon

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2012 03:45 PM

James replies:



Amen to that!!!





Here are some that have been said to me personally by other Christians:



1. Hey I chose Jesus, and the only reason God chose me is because He looked in to the future and saw I would have faith.



2. Who cares what Christians in the past believed, I don't need to know that stuff, I have the Holy Spirit and I have my Bible.



3. I used my free will and I chose Jesus and THAT is why I am a Christian.





Notice all three of these are about the great "I".





ARROGANCE!!!





In Christ,



James

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marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance
Posted : 7 Jan, 2012 08:20 PM

Donna AI cant speak for the others that you all label ad armainien but, that statment couldnt be firther from the truth of me, as I am quite aware that I can do nothing without him, and I am nothing except for him! This statement is ful of false asumtions, I have said the only difference between you and I is I just happen to think If I hads wantesd to I could have rejected God, everything else as far as salvation Iline up withyou all or most of it!

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Posted : 8 Jan, 2012 02:46 PM

When a person excepts the Word of Truth in his heart.

That definately is Not arrogance.

When you except Man's doctrines that is ignorance.



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