Thread: Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
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Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
Posted : 19 Jan, 2012 04:16 PM
I went to public schools in Missouri, and in every classroom I had, there was the same poster.
It was Darwin's theory of evolution.
This poster had a monkey at one end, a white man on the other, and a dark skinned man in the middle.
The message was clear that the dark skinned man was not as evolved as the white man.
If you study Darwinism, you end up with the conclusion that Black folks are not as evolved as white folks.
Before Darwin, the word "race" meant nationality or culture.
One spoke of the Scottish race, or the Irish race.
But with Darwinism, "race" came to mean skin color and facial features.
I think that because Darwinism is taught in public schools as fact and not the theory it really is, is the reason that a LOT of black Americans are insecure about themselves.
I think this insecurity shows up on their part by caring more about looking good, than being good, and anger as well because they believe, without ever admitting it to themselves that they got a lousy deal by not being as evolved.
Now, this view gets reinforced in America, because black culture in America has degenerated badly, and so they confuse the results of a bad culture, with, thinking that is just they way they are as a group.
The remedy for this is for them to consciously reject the Darwinian worldview, and instead embrace the Christian worldview whether they are Christian or not.
The Bible PLAINLY says that ALL PEOPLE came from Adam and Eve, and that all people have an inherent dignity and worth, BECAUSE they are made in the image of God.
This means, they were created to be morally upright. To be creative, and rational, as well.
Liberals fight us Christians every day in the public schools, and demand that Darwins theory be taught as fact, and they don't want anyone teaching the children that they all came from the same ancestor, and that they were made in the image of God.
Black folks in America have been preyed upon for too long by the Liberals in Government, and the liberals in academia.
Even plenty of Black Christians do not have a Christian worldview.
They view the Bible as only good for certain things, instead of the Bible being the lens that they look at ALL OF LIFE through.
Teaching ALL CHILDREN to have a Christian worldview is the necessary foundation to raise black culture in America.
Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 10:28 AM
James said: I went to public schools in Missouri, and in every classroom I had, there was the same poster. It was Darwin's theory of evolution. This poster had a monkey at one end, a white man on the other, and a dark skinned man in the middle. The message was clear that the dark skinned man was not as evolved as the white man. If you study Darwinism, you end up with the conclusion that Black folks are not as evolved as white folks.
Ella say: James, Your statement is the typical message and reflection of your OWN THOUGHTS in your OWN mind, and as to what YOU perceived when YOU viewed the poster of Darwin�s theory of evolution, because it is the typical covert seductive message of racsim of America. Nevertheless, I really do understand what you�re trying to say on this topic and your inflated concerns and conclusive statements, as YOU received the intended message of such poster. But you come across as having just read an article on this topic of Biblical/Christian worlwideview, and you�re now trying to put it into context of your own thoughts, and it ain�t happening� You are speaking from your own personal perception in making these statements you really don�t understand yourself� I was raised and grew up in Black America, long before you were even born, I lived in the home of poor Black Americans and went to church in Black America ; I was well taught and educated in the Black American�s school system and was taught Darwin�s theory of evolution, and attended classes in anthropology in college undergraduate studies in White America�s college; I was married in White America and lived in White America for over 30 years and rasied two fine sons in White America, and taught them to appreciate and accept both cultures of Black, Hispanic, and White America's cultures; I worked in White America in the best of the best of night clubs as an entertainer singer. And I think have a pretty good understanding of how both Black and White America thinks, lives, and I think I have a clear understanding of the bases of White America's perceptions and their lack of understanding in many things about people of the races, and the differences in cultures of other races in America. And I would dare to say, that I also pretty much know about White America�s ways, their denials, and manners and lack of such, as well as that of Black America� Yet, in all my days of life experiences, I have never in all my days in life and living, have I ever heard of such statements as you are making on this thread, in such condescending manner as to say, �that the teaching of Darwin�s evolution theory concludes that Black folks are not as �EVOLVED� as White folks�� WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD DOES THAT MEAN??.. these are YOUR OWN personal conclusions and perceptions and they are not based on anything of truth from facts or research statistical data of surveys that you are anyne has has taken asking Black America question to this effect, nor is anything you are speaking based on your personal experiences in, or from associating closely with Black Americans, nor is what you speak based of what anyone of Black Americans decendants has spoken to you.
I must ask you, how are you therefore able to make such conclusive statements here, of course, outside of your receiving and believing the message that has been instilled within YOU by the Darwin poster and that message of White America's OWN theory about Black America? What do you mean by this comment, �you will end up with the conclusion the black Folk are not as �evolved as White folk?� How do you define EVOLVED in this statement?
James said: Before Darwin, the word "race" meant nationality or culture. One spoke of the Scottish race, or the Irish race. But with Darwinism, "race" came to mean skin color and facial features.
Ella says: I must also disagree with you in this statement, becasue the word �race� has always meant what it has always been defined as being in meaning, Darwin�s posters and theory of evolution did not change the meaning of the word �race�, White America changed the meaning of the word �race� to justify separation and segregation and prejudice (pre-judge) and discrimination (the-crime-of-the-nation, and defined it to mean racism as it relates to Black America dn people of color in America.
James said: I think that because Darwinism is taught in public schools as fact and not the theory it really is, is the reason that a LOT of black Americans are insecure about themselves.
Ella says: Again, James,these are your OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS and denial of the truth, and you don�t have the slightest clue as to what you are speaking outside of your own personal thoughts and opinions, which is as the presumption of MOST White folks and their own perceptions of Black folk thus, history supports this and so does data. The Public school sytem in the teaching of Darwin's theory of evolution has not on thing to do with nothing you are speaking, but society does. What survey have you done or read that would prove such data in your statements and conclusions, as being taken by a �LOT of Black Americans that would provide such conclusions you have drawn in this topic as you present as facts, that Black Americans are �insecure about themselves?� Who told you this? As I�ve stated I was raised in Black America and I don�t find this statement of your�s to be based on facts or any form of truth as I know facts and turth to be about Black America� but what you speak is based on what White America has for years and as history reports, concluded in their own thoughts, minds, and opinions, and how it is how White America perceive Black America as being, which in reality or more in actuality, can be consider and described as a racism which is the bases for White America�s unbiblical/Christian worldview and their own unChirtsian worlview perception of how they view Black America. Their own denial of many of history's truth give way for their own insecurities that they fail to face and therefore, project out on Black Americans in their attempt to feel superior, and to make Black America feel and look inferior.
James said: I think this insecurity shows up on their part by caring more about looking good, than being good� and anger as well because they believe, without ever admitting it to themselves that they got a lousy deal by not being as evolved.
Ella says: Well, James if you�re going to base such presumptions propaganda on your own personal thoughts according to your unbringing as YOU perceive Black America as being insecure by caring more about �looking good, than being good.� What shall we say to these things? Are you implying that White America does not care about their looks, but rather care more about being good. How racist can you be with such insolent comment? I would dare ask cosmetic companies. health facilities and food companies, and plastic surgeons how much money they make on Black Americans puying their products compared to White Americans who buy their products?... and this includes both men and women. It is a known that White America is obsessed with their looks and go overboard even to to the extent of death with all kinds of pills, and health aids and treatments, doing harm to their bodies, remodeling and reshaping trying to stay young to never grow old. If these companies depended on Black Americans to get rich, they would not be in business or as rich as they are today. LOL�
So, What you are saying is, that Black America is insecure therefore, they would rather look good, than be good, and White Americans are not concerned about their looks, because they would rather �BE GOOD� than look good� what a condescending racist statement of denial to make, to think and say, that White America is GOOD?� And to imply that Black America is not good, because they focus on their looks rather than being good, yet stats prove than White America spend more money in one day on their looks than most Blacks make in a year�s salary trying to survive in daily living, White America borrow money for plastic surgeries, when Black America can�t borrow money to make a house or rent payment. BTW, What does �BEING GOOD mean? Again, I say, what a condescending racist statement if you think White folk are good and Black folks are not. Your comments are sterotypical of what happens in the minds and thoughts of many of minds in White America, you come to believe your own propaganda.
James continues:� and anger as well because they believe, without ever admitting it to themselves that they got a lousy deal by not being as evolved.
Ella says: You�re saying that Black America is �angry because they got a lousy deal by not being as �EVOLOVED AS WHITE FOLK? WOW! How profound can this statement be?� Racism in America had nothing to do with being evolved? Or did it?� uuhh, maybe I wasn�t �evolved� enough to know that the sufferings afflicted on Black America and other people of color in America by White Americans, was due to the fact that Black America nor the other races of color had not EVOLVED� Well, sur, I�ve heard it all!� James what in the world are you saying here?� again, I ask, where are you getting your information? And who is telling you this, and what kind of kool-aid are you drinking, or what is your pot laced with�Phenobarbital?� because you are sound asleep on this topic? And what survey have you taken of Black America to make such judgment calls and statements. And again what are you intending to mean by the sue of EVOLVED and EVOLUTION? It would go to reason from data in history that it is the White folk who have not ADMITTED TO THEMSLVES THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE NOT EVOLVED from the ways of their own making in their behavior and attitudes toward Black Americans and other races of people of race color in America.
James said: Now, this view gets reinforced in America, because black culture in America has degenerated badly, and so they confuse the results of a bad culture, with, thinking that is just they way they are as a group.
Ella says: Please explain this statement. What are you saying and meaning that the Black culture in America has degenerated badly? and THEY, are you speaking about the thinking of White America confuse the results of a bad culture with thinking that is just the way they are as a group? � or are you making another one you�re your presumptuous statement without facts to support what you speak? What in the name of the Lord are you saying here? And again, I ask you to provide your statistical date to support your information and observations and as a matter of fact views you have presented here, that you have taken from your survey of Black America, that brings you to such absorbs racist conclusions.
James said: The remedy for this is for them to consciously reject the Darwinian worldview, and instead embrace the Christian worldview whether they are Christian or not.
Ella says: James, there is no need for YOUR remedy, in case you have not been informed, BLACK AMERICA DOES NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTON! Never have Black America ever believed in evolution or anything that Darwin theory says, and not much of what White America has said or have to say about their thoughts or degrading names of references about Black Americans as a people. I think you should come up with a remedy for the end to White American�s own issues and problems and racist thoughts with thinking that they are superior to all minority groups of people, not just Black America. Oh, yes, you do well to come up with a remedy to bring White America into embracing the Biblical/Christian worldview of what God say in His Word of Truth, and to have their minds renewed unconditionally to come to grips to think like Christ would have us all to think and be, then maybe we would not have racism in America.
Remember, racism and the degrading of the word "RACE and its meaning, DID NOT start in Blakc America's culture, or with Black folk, it started with, and in White America with White folk.
James said: The Bible PLAINLY says that ALL PEOPLE came from Adam and Eve, and that all people have an inherent dignity and worth, BECAUSE they are made in the image of God.
Ella says: Yes, this is true, and this is what you you have need to work on and come up with a remedy as pertaining to White America, to impose on their minds their need to embrace the truth that God does say that, �ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED IN HIS IMAGE AND CAME FROM ADAM AND EVE AS OUT PARENTS OF THE HUMAN RACE.� BUT, the problem is, as I've started, but I will make it clear for your understanding is, that until White folks in America get this CONCEPT OF TRUTH in their spirits and minds then there will continue to be problems with racism with White America thinking they are better and have the answers to, and in all things, and that Black America has the problem that was in fact created by the racism of White America.
The problems isn�t with Black America, it with what White America perceives in their own minds about Black America and all other races of people, and this is what you should diligently work and discover to find a remedy to fixt that would bring about change in White America.
Just as you have presented here, your OWN THOUGHTS OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE TRUTH AS YOU PERCEVE THEM, � this is the typical perception of Black America by White America, which is rasim, as to think Black America having a problem, Black America needs fixing, Black America need help in how they view themselves� I am not denying that there are many problems in Black America, and Black Amrica also admits such, but this isn;t the honest case within White America, when in fact, and the truth of the matter is, that its White America who has more problems than they are willing to admit and accept and, has need to change their attitudes and perceptions of Black America... and it is White America who is in denial of their own problems and those they forceably created in Black America and among other cultures, and it is Whit America how believes that Black America and many other cultues of the races of pople of color as being inferior to White America... and it is White America who is in denial as having a savior complex and feel a need to fix all the races to become as they are, becasue of thier won self serving perceptions of themselves as being superior.
James said: This means, they were created to be morally upright. To be creative, and rational, as well. Liberals fight us Christians every day in the public schools, and demand that Darwin�s theory be taught as fact, and they don't want anyone teaching the children that they all came from the same ancestor, and that they were made in the image of God.
Black folks in America have been preyed upon for too long by the Liberals in Government, and the liberals in academia. Even plenty of Black Christians do not have a Christian worldview.
Ella says: Explain what you mean here. Are you saying that Black America is not morally upright, and White America is morally upright? I know you don�t care for me to go there when it comes to being morally upright in White America, when data shows differently that what you might believe in all areas of sins, you speak as White America has higher moral standard than Black America, when it is a proven that Whhite Americas commit moral sins Black Americans wouldn�t even dare think about commiting before God, so I KNOW you don�t want me to go there. I know what Christian/Biblical worldview is all about and its theory especially when it comes to moral sins in White America, But do YOU know What Biblical/Christian worldview is all about when it comes to what God says? I don�t think so, because you don�t know what you�re talking about on this topic, as you make statements inferring that White America has it going on, because they have EVOLVED, AND BLACK AMERICA IS LAGGING BEHIND BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT EVOLVED�
And again, I ask you where do you get your information and data to make such a defining statement. And how do the liberals play into all of this. How do politics fit into the Biblical worldview concept? Sound like you�re campaigning? Black America has more of a Biblical worldview, as to use your phrase than White America, because Black America does not involve its self with man�s doctrines or the teachings of past church leaders or church founders, nor make idols out of them, nor does Black America hold its founders as equal to, or better than God or what God speaks in His Word.
Black Americans are rather fearful to even do much questioning what God says in His Word, and would dare not to even challenge what God speaks in His word, whereas this is not the case in White America. One thing about it, Black America will not conform to what White America says or how White America thinks, and to be honest this is what a lot of what you�re speaking here that Black America needs to be get on board and be taught to conform to the way White America thinks and understand God�s word and the things of God as White folks do�
And Whether you like it or not, your statements on this thread speaks for many in White America, and infers that White America think that all people should be as they are, because God only has spoken His word to them, and they must have the right answers to all the problems in the world among all races of people, and especially for Black America.
James said: They view the Bible as only good for certain things, instead of the Bible being the lens that they look at ALL OF LIFE through.
Ella says Again James, you are making many statements that you have no idea as to what you�re speaking, as they are your own or someone else�s presumptuous thoughts who is in denial of the truth about White America. Again, where is your data to support what you�re speaking here. And who told you this?
James said: Teaching ALL CHILDREN to have a Christian worldview is the necessary foundation to raise black culture in America.
Ella says: How is teaching ALL CHIILDREN THE BIBLCIAL/CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW THE NECESSARY FOUNDATION FOR RASING BLACK CULTURE IN AMERICA� Black culture needs RAISING?� You make racist statement as to say that Black America based on your views and thoughts as in your subject lacks the learning and knowledge and intelligence of White America therefore, Black America�s must be taught the ways of White America�s thinking, in order to be equal and learn the Biblical/Christian worldview as a necessity to raise their children, then Black America will have evolved� What a joke you are!!! .. Then it would go to say that White America has not been taught the Biblical/Christian worldview of what God means by the value of life and family and who is your neighbor� otherwise there would not be so many innocent families and co-workers and innocent people being killed by LOTS of White Americans when they get angry and take it out on everyone in sight including killing themselves.. AND there sure would not be ANY FORM OF RACISM IN AMERICA!!
You see, its ONLY in America that the word RACE is defined by the color of a people�s skin, and is allowed to bring about injustice, and all kinds of seprartion which is caused by racsim, one RACE of people THINKING they are SUPRIOR to all others, which is NOT THE BIBLICAL/CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW NOR IS IT GOD�S TEACHINGS, NOR IS IT THE MEANING OF, NOR DEFINES BIBLICAL/CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW.
Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 11:18 AM
Shared ~ The Bible PLAINLY says that ALL PEOPLE came from Adam and Eve, [[[ and that all people have an inherent dignity and worth, BECAUSE they are made in the image of God. ]]]
This means, they were created to be morally upright. To be creative, and rational, as well.
*** Ummmm�:rolleyes:...James�Don�t you Believe the Reformed Doctrine of Total Depravity that ALL people are Depraved with No Dignity�Worth�Ability to be Rational or Moral until Regenerated ???�Ima not sure why you would say this on a post about Black people�and Ima not goin there�We all be Equal in the Eyes of GOD regardless of the Color of Skin or Social~Economic standing in the world view�and Darwin...well...imho...its a Evolving world...there is Only one Constant...and thats GOD~Jesus~HolySpirit...Luv Ya�xo
Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 05:48 PM
Jude your comments are childish, and dishonest.
It is sad to see someone like you trying to muddy up the waters when this is a simple subject, but an important one.
I will repeat somethings I have already said, and proven with Scripture several times, and you will probably lie about it again, the next time it comes up, but here comes the truth AGAIN:
1. BEFORE THE FALL
Mankind was created in God's Image and had a perfectly free will, in which he was able to sin, or not.
2. AFTER THE FALL
God's image in man was blurred and smeared, but it is still there.
You can see it mans rationality, creativity, and his guilty knowledge of God and His goodness.
Mankind's WILL became enslaved to sin, and is now UNABLE to repent and trust in Jesus.
NO ONE has EVER SAID that "God's image was lost in the Fall".
Black Americans suffering from a lack of a Biblical WorldView..........
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 06:24 PM
ET said:
Ella says Again James, you are making many statements that you have no idea as to what you�re speaking, as they are your own or someone else�s presumptuous thoughts who is in denial of the truth about White America. Again, where is your data to support what you�re speaking here. And who told you this?
James replies:
You should probably just say you disagree, and then be SPECIFIC ABOUT IT.
Data to support what I am saying? I repeat: in EVERY classroom I grew up in public school, there was the SAME POSTER.
It had a monkey on one end, a white man on the other, and a darkskinned man with thick features in the middle.
I BET you have Seen the SAME POSTER.
ET said:
How is teaching ALL CHIILDREN THE BIBLCIAL/CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW THE NECESSARY FOUNDATION FOR RASING BLACK CULTURE IN AMERICA
James replies:
Just like I said: Teaching children in public school that they were created in the image of God, INSTEAD of teaching that people merely evolved from pond scum.
I do think that Evolution is not only a lie, but then gives children no reason to have a moral base. And I DO think that that poster, before they removed them and acted like they never existed AFFECTED some black childrens view of themselves.
It is just a guess, but I bet I am right.
ET said:
� Black culture needs RAISING?� You make racist statement as to say that Black America based on your views and thoughts as in your subject lacks the learning and knowledge and intelligence of White America therefore, Black America�s must be taught the ways of White America�s thinking, in order to be equal and learn the Biblical/Christian worldview as a necessity to raise their children, then Black America will have evolved� What a joke you are!!!
James replies:
Let me get this straight..........
Black children in America hardly even have a chance to have two parents in the household, and black babies have an almost 50-50 shot at being killled in an abortion mill, and Black teenagers drop out of high school at about a 50% rate, and YOU are saying that because I think that Black folks need to have a Christian Worldview as a foundation to help raise black culture, that I am making a "racist statement"?
Black culture in America is terrible, and worse than ever!
Check out the graduation rates of Blacks in the 50's, the marriage rate, the abortion rate, crime rate, etc.
Good Grief ET, do you ever read a newspaper?
ET said:
�that the teaching of Darwin�s evolution theory concludes that Black folks are not as �EVOLVED� as White folks�� WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD DOES THAT MEAN??..
James replies:
It means just what you said. If you are so shocked about it, PERHAPS YOU COULD GOOGLE "Darwinism and Racism".
Read about five websites that all say this, and then you will over the fact that I believe it also.
ET said:
I must also disagree with you in this statement, becasue the word �race� has always meant what it has always been defined as being in meaning, Darwin�s posters and theory of evolution did not change the meaning of the word �race�, White America changed the meaning of the word �race� to justify separation and segregation and prejudice (pre-judge) and discrimination (the-crime-of-the-nation, and defined it to mean racism as it relates to Black America dn people of color in America.
James replies:
Well you are wrong! I REPEAT: BEFORE Darwin, the word "Race" meant nationality or culture.
AFTER Darwin, it came to mean skin color and facial features.
ET said:
The problems isn�t with Black America, it with what White America perceives in their own minds about Black America
James replies:
Yeah that is just flat out denying reality ET.
Next you will be saying the biggest problem blacks face in America is racism.
You can't even admit that black culture is degenerating to the point that a black man is more likely to go to prison than college, then you need to accept reality. You have left the topic I was talking about entirely.
ET said:
you come across as having just read an article on this topic of Biblical/Christian worlwideview, and you�re now trying to put it into context of your own thoughts, and it ain�t happening�
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Posted : 21 Jan, 2012 02:32 PM
James would you happen to have any stats on how many babies have been born to White teens who go away secretly to pregancy.materinty home to have their babies, and put them up for adoptiong to relatives or friends, and return back home and continue their high school as if nothing has happen?
Also did you know that Black teens or women were not allowed to go to abortion clinic until the early or late 1980's?
Did you know that these White babies born to White teens in pregnancy home are not counted as the teen having given birth, NOR WERE THEY APART OF CENSUS, OR ANY STATS, because they were adopted out.
Did you know that, Black girls have their babies at home, and kept their babies, because in the Black community the girls are taught YOU AIN�T GOT NOTHING TO GIVE AWAY, THAT GOD PUT THERE, AND YOU AIN�T GOT NOTHING TO THROW AWAY, AND YOU SHOOOO BETTER NOT KILL AN INNOCENT CHILD OF GOD WHO DID NOT ASK TO BE BORN. Black girls kept their babies and continue to do so even so today, where as White girls do either one of the two, abort them or go away to a pregnancy home and put them up for adoption.
Did you know that, if Black teenage girls are getting MORE ABORTIONS than White teenage girls, how in the world can Black teenage girls also be HAVING MORE BABIES in single parents homes than White teenage girls? You can�t do BOTH!... HAVE MORE BABIES THAN WHITE TEENS, AND AT THE SAME TIME GET MORE ABORTIONS THAN WHITE GIRLS� but according to you and the lie of generational propaganda handed down to you, and since you have EVOLVED, this just might be POSSIBLE.
Did you know that In the 1930s, licensed physicians performed an estimate 800,000 abortions a year? And these were not done on Black teens or women these were done on White teens and women?
Did you know that Black teens and women were not allowed to go to pregnancy home for have their babies, becasue these homes were started back in the 1900's for ONLY White grls ages 12 to 25, to go in secret to have thier babies, and Black couldn't go to them?
Did you know that White single teens and married women alike under the many names of Jane and Sue, and Mary would come into the Black community to midwives to have abortions and no one knew about it execpt their parents, or a close family member?
Do you know that pregancy homes are un number up to about 200 or 300 across Amercia where White teens and women go and have thier babies in secret, and no one ever knows about it, cuz, the babies are adopted out?
Did you know that Balck teens and women still can;t afford to go to these homes,a dn would rather keep thier babies that adopt them out or abort them?
Last point, did you know that the justice system is not fair and balance when it comes to Black men and White men in Amercia who commit the same crime, but that White man will not do the same time as the Black man r Hispanic or other minorty group of men? Maybe you haven;' heard of such in Amercia..:laugh:
So whatever newspaper you are finding your information in, I think you need to find a new paper to start reading... and if you refuse to come out of denial, I can post more information for you about abortions and who is really getting pregnant in Amercia, and crime and the court system, by reputable researchers, but the reports are not making it to the front ages of your newspaper that you read....
I will visit your site when I can find time to just hang out with ya! Thanks for the invite!
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Posted : 23 Jan, 2012 08:29 AM
James shared ~ Jude your comments are childish, and dishonest.
*** Is that right ???...My comment is truthful...and calling me childess for speaking truth I will accept as a compliment...for I am a Child of GOD...you just dont like that I called ya on the total depravity doctrine when your 1st posting is clearly the opposite of it...the only ones muddying the waters are those that are double minded...some men dont like it when a woman speaks a truth...sorry ifin I hurt yer feelings...even though I have no power to do so...I still Love ya James and will continue to even though ya dont want or need me too...Be Blessed brother and hava God HolySpirit Filled day...xo
