Any time you are willing to be accountable we will addres your practices.
Agapeton that is simply your opinion and that is
not of any value to the body of christ.
ME: Considering I posted Scripture along with known and accepted Greek terminology of what the word of repent means and you've not once reconciled your statement with Scripture to show for it, it would stand that all you have stated is nothing BUT opinion, brother.
Everything is in line with scripture and you will
not see it until you come into agreement with
scripture.
ME: Um, bro, I've yet to see anything from you to prove your point, much less A point for that matter. So how can one, namely the silent reader, come to an agreement if you have given nothing but the air to beat at? Kind of pointless to make a point without any reference to point it out, brother. Get my point? If not, then I can point you out to it.
Any bible student of the word could take you to
scripture that proclaims everything i said but
they would be scripture's that you by reason say
are not true.
ME: And yet, a seasoned Bible scholar and student like you can't. So what are you trying to say then, brother PJ? Are you saying that your not a student of the Word because you can't do it? Ok. Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying it, so that I now know, to file your comments somewhere.
The faul is not with the one that believes the word
of God.
ME: You're right. It isn't. That is why I posted the Word of God to you to show your unbelief within reason and you proved it by doubting.
You can not believe with your mind.
ME: Bro, I'm honestly starting to doubt all that you say because it comes from nothing but your mind.
Has the author of this thread finally admitted to his unbelief of Scripture or is he trying to hint that he is trying to intimidate someone? * inserts thinking man emoticon here*
Cause it sure seems to be the case.
And if the author is not admitting to the later, then he is surely trying to incite strife which is the admittance of the former.
phillipjohn Posted : The word of God is free to whosoever will drink.
ME: True, brother, that is, was, and never has been the dispute. What is your point, if any, other to cause strife (and prove the former) as usual?
The post is as the word decrees mark those that try to proclaim another gospel another Jesus. Jeus is not an opinion.
ME: I see. So you are finally coming out by admitting that you preach a gospel of a spirit and a promise of an unintelligible prayer language that doesn't exist in Scripture?
I'm glad that you finally are coming to grips with this, brother. See! God is a God of answered prayers! May all all Glory and Honor be upon the Lord Jesus Christ who is Holy and worthy to be praised forever!
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
New Living Translation (�2007)
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
That is a good Scripture Shalom and one walking in the light of it, knows the difference between the mind and the spirit, thus knowing when one is trying to communicate out of their mind or their spirit.
shalom716 Posted: New International Version (�1984)
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
New Living Translation (�2007)
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12
ME: Shalom, What are you using this verse for exactly, sister? Because if it is to try to justify why one should use the Word to bash people into subjection and tro try to hurt their feelings, then the interpretation you have of this verse is incorrect.
The Verse actually means that the Word of God is SO exact that it hits the mark on its meaning.
NOT that it convicts and proves someone as being wrong or convicts someone. Sadly, people tend to misuse this verse to fit their wrong intentions to put others into subjection by their ability to be take "jabs" on fellow believers.
phillipjohn Posted: That is a good Scripture Shalom and one walking in the light of it, knows the difference between the mind and the spirit, thus knowing when one is trying to communicate out of their mind or their spirit.
ME: like this guy for example. The poor man causes strife then when he gets proved wrong, he has to make a topic to try to justify his reason for causing strife in the first place because he couldn't come up with a Scriptural answer after he gave a wrong opinion of the Word without any remorse or sorrow in doing so. This is the reason for the topic.
"John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive." by SirJames
He said: Faith as spoken of in scripture is not a general term, it is always specific and most be according to the topic or subject matter.
Bible faith is totally of the heart or spirit of man.
The intellect, mind, or intelligence is in no way invovled with faith.
Faith comes by hearing the word of God with the heart
The process of faith is primarily a three step continaul process
The second part is believing with the heart or Spirit of man, the heart of man is where the Spirit ofgod and man's spirit are in union together in the midst of mna the spirit.
The third and ongoing step is mixing faith with the word heard and believed, this is actually what the bible refers to as being a doer of the word.
That being said bring together all the scriptures relevant to repentance and being born again and you will know faith for the new birth.
Repentance is simply turning from, and then to in this instance The lord ship of Jesus. "
I ADDRESSED HIM:
That's a nice explanation, PJ. But seriously. How about we look at the Bible's definition of repentance instead of say what we think it means.
Even if we look at the new birth which you just mentioned, Jesus never said anything about one having to repent in his whole exposition of it. He did say that one had to only believe on Him and His name to enter and see the kingdom of God. He said that one must be born of water and Spirit but never mentioned repentance. He did mention belief though. He said one who believed would be saved and one who didn't would be condemned in John 1:18.
So again, what is the Biblical meaning of repentance?
I showed him what the Bible meant with the definition of repentance:
Strong's says it is "to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider."
Thayer says it is "to change one�s mind." it is definitely not confessing one's sins because it is different from the text and it's presentation.
HE LATER SAID: James we have all played your game numerous
times and those that believe understand what
you try to do.
Twisting the word is well it speaks for irtself.
I ADDRESSED HIM WITH: you're right PJ. The Word did speak for Himself on this:
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, What shall we do, that we may work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.
By the way, I think you still need to reconcile what you said with the steps to believing and the repentance definition, brother, because your explanation was just a "tad" off there.
I still see no repentance in that work of God statement Jesus mentioned that John 6 part there.
HE did not reconcile his earlier statement with Scripture to prove his point and came back with:
No It was exactly correct, you are doing exactly what james and George do bending the word to fight your opinion.
In otherwords you alter the word to fight your life style.
Believing the word of God is accepting as it is written.
George, you and James say man can not believe.
Jesus say's man can believe I agree with him.
I ADRESSED HIM WITH: Pj, bro. Seriously, you didn't say anything that went along with Scripture cause if you did, then you could attach a verse to it in support of it.
But you didn't.
The only thing you've provided so far is rhetoric. And I'm actually being nice by calling it that, brother.
You've stated that repentance meant one thing and I've showed you what it meant according to the Bible. You've stated other unsupportable things and yet you say it is truth?
How can this be truth if it is not researchable within the Word of God, brother? I mean if the Word cannot be searched then who is to say that you aren't one of those who come in the name of Jesus saying falsities? There is a standard that we must go by, bro. That is the Word of God.
And the rest is history with this topic being born. How much more can a man be showing his " example of Intimidation-Unbelief" other than by making this topic in response to something that could have easily been terminated had he supplied the Scriptural answers he was so pridefully and arrogantly boasting of?
As I said before, If this topic was made to prove a point it was made on the authors behalf of his attempt to admit to: A. intimidate or B. unbelief of Scripture
Then it was perfectly made in proving himself to be both.
Only YHWH can judge the thoughts and intents of the heart, not me.
I just want to love my G-d and my neighbor as myself and I pray that YHWH will bless and keep you, make His face shine upon you and be gracious unto you, lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.
Scripture needs no support you proved you do not agree with scripture and Jesus as lord will correct those that are willing to walk in truth.
You point the finger and tell all they are wrong as you refuse to submit to scripture, my actions is to obey scripture and point out your trying to proclim doctrine against scripture.
