Author	Thread: you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies
elishabroadway View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 06:31 AM Pastor Markus Bishop surrendered to Bay County sheriff�s investigators around 8:00 Tuesday morning, but Tuesday afternoon the 47-year-old was back to work at his Faith Christian Family Church. Sheriff�s officials are charging the pastor with domestic battery against his wife, 42-year-old Margie Bishop. According to the incident report, the Bishops got into an argument in their home at the Exclusive Preserve on the night of Sunday March 16. That�s when Margie Bishop claims her husband hit her with his fist. The next day Mrs. Bishop left their home and traveled to her parents house in Broward County. That�s when she filed the report against her husband, but his attorney says Bishop did not intentionally injure his wife.�He was watching television, went to sleep on the couch and woke up with her over him hollering at him. When he told her to go back to bed she threw a glass of wine in his face. They then started a pushing-shoving match and then she may have gotten injured in what I would call a wrestling match. Basically there was some pushing and shoving that took place,� said Waylon Graham, Markus Bishop�s attorney. Along with the picture, Margie Bishop released a statement today saying �in the past I have tried to deal with Markus� violence and verbal abuse in different ways to no avail. For the benefit of the church and all those, including me, who continue to care for him, it is my sincere hope that he seeks and finally receives proper treatment for his problem.�She goes on to say �I am saddened by his attorney�s public mischaracterization of the recent assault and their desperate attempts to focus the attention away from his brutal attack. (Hat tip to Spark.) Now as I said, it�s a charge, not a conviction. It�s a hard thing to prove when these pimps beat on their wives, given it occurs in private. Unless the court convicts him, I can�t say much else. With the Bynum parking lot beat down, there was a 2nd witness. Personally, I would not be surprised if he did it. But given Markus Bishop has possibly fallen out of line with 1 Peter 3:7 [click to expand link], let�s see what this pulpit pimp is teaching is flock. (And then you�ll see why I call him a pulpit pimp.) 1 Peter 3:7 (New American Standard Bible) 7 You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. Spark tells me he�s a money pimp, preaching the prosperity doctrine heresy and he seems to be rather open about that and his ties to some other pimps. Markus Bishop Markus Bishop is the Senior Pastor of Faith Christian Family Church of Panama City Beach, Florida as well as an internationally known author, speaker, and host of the Faith Is The Victory television broadcast. In 1993, the Holy Spirit directed Pastor Bishop to take the message of Biblical finances and the anointing of increase to the world. Since then, he has ministered on Kenneth Copeland�s daily television broadcast as well as in financial conferences with Dr. Creflo A. Dollar, Jr. Pastor Bishop�s book, Our Covenant of Prosperity, has sold over 250,000 copies worldwide and has been featured on Trinity Broadcasting Network as well as in Kenneth Copeland�s Believer�s Voice of Victory magazine. He has received thousands of testimonies of how this message of increase from God�s Word has produced miracles in the finances of those who have put its principles to practice. Pastor Bishop�s ministry focuses on the local church as he fulfills his call �to prepare God�s people for works of service� (Ephesians 4:12 NIV) and proclaim the message of deliverance and restoration to every area of life � spirit, soul, body, and finances. He encourages others to let the Bible be the final authority in their lives. So he says that the Holy Spirit told him to go preach money to the world. Well this is what my Bible tells me. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (New American Standard Bible) 3 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. Men depraved of mind and deprived of truth are supposing godliness is a means of gain. Markus Bishop is depraved of mind and deprived of the truth. (Well I can�t say he�s guilty of beating his wife, but he�s not looking like a good man.) The Apostles did not go around preaching earthly financial �increase�. They were homeless preaching a message of salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ and telling us to be imitators of them, 1 Corinthians 4:11-16 [click to expand link]. Jesus did not go around preaching financial �increase�. There are no recorded miracles of Christ or the Apostles taking 2 coins and turning them to 5000. Scripture teaches a message of contentment. 1 Corinthians 4:11-16 (New American Standard Bible) 11 To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty, and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; 12 and we toil, working with our own hands; when we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure; 13 when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, even until now. 14 I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. 15 For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16 Therefore I exhort you, be imitators of me. Markus Bishop mentions he hangs with heretic Kenneth Copeland. He holds money pimp conferences with heretic Creflo Augustus Dollar, Junior. And of course others of like depraved mind have written him, to tell them that they got money and claimed godliness is a means for financial gain, Luke 6:39-40 [click to expand link]. Luke 6:39-40 (New American Standard Bible) 39 And He also spoke a parable to them: �A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40 �A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher. If he sees the Bible as the final authority, how can he waste time on money, claiming to preach about spirit, soul, body, and finances. He reads like a Christ-less motivational speaker more than anything the Bible shows to be a pastor, 1 Timothy 3. The man is greedy for money and teaching a false doctrine. But it seems with all his money and fame, he can�t even keep a wife. It would be good if Markus Bishop would strive to earnestly reconcile with his wife and repent of the heresy he spews, but until then, all saints should avoid him and his associates until they repent and turn to sound doctrine. Post Reply
View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 06:34 AM No it is an example of your unbelief? You have put yourself in all of His Guilt. Post Reply
View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 06:36 AM Btw The way Elisha you just said it is the Gospel to cause this man to sin that is very interesting what is the scripture for that. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 12:10 PM No PJ I said the prosperity gospel not THE Gospel of Jesus Christ why dont you produce somwe scripture PJ that says we are suposed to be getting rich? And how on earth does me posting that article from a news paper make me guilty of markus bishops sin, is it your opinion that we are to ignore and condone this behaivor? I may be guyily of wrath or maybe some unforgivness toawrds him but I am not guilty of huis sin! Please please say something with some substance how exactly have I demonstrated unbelief I believe my God will provide for me I know he is able to make me rich but will he? is it his will? I doubt it because wealth usualy corrupts people and the word says where your treasure is your heart will be. But PJ just because I dont believe the prosperty garbage that this man has been preaching doesnt mean I dont believe in My savior, my whole point is always I dont need wealth because I have him, and He owns everything so why is it that you would say I have unbelief?? that makes no sence at all. I see though now PJ how you turn on someone if they disagree with you especialy about money and prosperity that seems to be what is important to you, well thats between you and the Lord but do go throwing stones at me and calling me a doubter I dont have to believe in a get rich gosdpel its malarky the Lord has instruced us to follow him and he didnt go anywhere but to that cross and he didnt have one material thing when he got there but he went to heaven where his riches were that is what we are to do set our treasures in heaven you have yet to say anything that makes and sence to support your prosperity gospel. by the way the gospel is not prosperity I dont know where you get that , what it is , is Jesus the perfect lamb crucified as a sacrifce for our sins and God raised him the 3rd day as a testimony that he had defeted death and hell anbd the grave so that we can live again! Thats the gospel PJ where in the gospel do you find prosperity? when the Lord spoke to the wealthy man he tld him to give away everything he ownded take up his cross and follow him he said even to hate your family if he wants us to love our family so much less then how much less would he have us to love our wordly possesions we are to seek spirtual things anything else he gives us is a bonus a blessing its extra he dont owe it to us, we should be happy in rags and ashack the cross was enough PJ dont you think? Post Reply
View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 12:38 PM All that unbelief will not Justify your sin Elisha. It is not a matter of me being right it is the integrity of the word of God. I have never once said we are to be getting Rich those are your words never mine. I have said the gospel is prosperity in every aspect of life, but that is not my words, those are the words of Jesus. Btw the way The bible says we are Rich it is not a matter of getting rich it is a matter of walking in the Light of the Gospel. The Blessing. Man is redeemed from all form's of poverty. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 26 Jan, 2012 05:07 PM Then PJ why do you so strongly disagree with me then say you do not disagree with what I am saying, I never said prosperity in al aspects of like were not the gospel absolutly it is, all I have ever said is the preachers that get on telivision and talk people into sending money in they never tell the people they need salvation their main concern is getting a check and in order to get hte check they tell some por shmuck who is probably eating bon bons and smoking paul malls on the couch flipping between the tv preacher and the home shopping channel to send this preaher man money and he wil;l reciave a money blessing from God or God will open the doors for him a new job like it is some sort of magic spell I did and still do believe that the Lord will cause us to prosper if our hearts are right, but if our hearts are right we wont be concerned with getting money to the point where we are sending some man on tv money while he is blowing on an audience through a microphone and they are all falling backwars then he cuts in and sdays something like "are you in need of a new job well the Lord said if you will give 684 dollars he will give you the job you have been praying about" then someone buys into it, cause there are thousands of people praying for a job but 1 or 2 after sending the money will get the job then they mistakenly think that because of that money they sent they got their job and maybe they did get it because of that money but only if they gave it with the right heart and spirit they will not report of the hundreds who sent in the money and are still getting unemployment or worse. I dont have unbelief in God PJ its man I dont believe in and there is no doubt that god willprosper us but we are not to treat it like a game like these people do saying OH here God I gave you 100 now I am waiting for my 700 back from you THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS thats is not not not how prosperity works and thats all I have been saying please be specific about what is wrong about that comment and how it is unbelief, I can see how people get agrivated PJ I love you but you have no right to acuse me of having unbelife yteah I got some unbeliefe but its you and the TV preachers I dont believe I do believe God and every word he says while you are pointing me to scripture you have yet to post one that suports what you are saying and if you can come up with one I am sure there are 2 or 3 that say we are to be content and all the scriptures that say we are not to love treasures in this world and our treasure are in heaven why wont you adress that and where your treasure is your heart will be, why is it PJ that because I disagree with you , you think you cab judge the conditon of my soul as unbelief = lack of faith and without fath you cant be saved so when you start scraming unbeliefe you are implying I am not saved and you dont have any idea whether or not i am saved all you think you know is that I have unbelief but this is where you are wrong because I believe full well that God can and will prosper a man in his entire life including money hey only waqy yoyu can acuse me of unbeliefe is if I didnt believe God was able to do that, and I believe he cvan and will, I just dont believe it has a darn thing to do with what we are giving especialy if we are giving with the wrong spirit and wrong heart, why cant you understand that? why is it so hard fopr you? are you even reading what I am saying, when did I ever imply I didnt believe God was in control of everything including the money its man whom I say isnt in control and he isnt in control of the money or how God prospers in any way that is all in Gods hands thats all I been saying some tv preachers hirelings is what they are (not all of them) make it into a spell like witchcraft tats evil and its not they way of the gospel we are to give no matter what He does for or to us what in the world makes that my unbelief? PJ would you continue to give if you knew you would struggle for the rest of your life here but in the end you would ne with Jesus, why are you so causght up with the treasures in this world they will not make you happy The same preacher that told the story about giving 100 dollars and said he had spent his suit money giving to a church and he has never bought a suit since also said this "anyone who says money wont make you happy has never had any" so does that sound like a godly man to you? Post Reply
View Profile History	you will know a tree by the fruit it bares, and just cause markus bishop calls himself pastor does not make him a man of God/ and if he isnt a man of God (which he is not) then me posting this is not sin, its merely an example of what this financial prosperity gospel is producing, I am ashamed that people like this are confused with pentecostals and full gospel churches, this is not what I affilkiate with this is low down rotten sin and I do not psrticipate in such church bodies Posted : 27 Jan, 2012 02:08 AM Yes you do Elisha the bible is Right you are not. Do you know that is selfish? Post Reply