Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 10:18 AM
Are trying to "EVANGELIZE" in this and other forums? I mean seriously.
I've been reading some people's topics here and they seem to be acting as if they are in a pagan country and have to evangelize by preaching every doctrine but that of the life, death, resurrection and the forgiveness of sins we have received through his shedding his blood on the cross and the eternal life with God and the reconciliation of a relationship we will receive if we believe upon Him.
I've not seen any here trying to encourage others in topics. I have seen many try to separate themselves from each other here though. Ironically enough the person that unites us all is hardly ever the similarity or the object of of use to bring us together here.
I admit, I am a teacher, so I try to ask questions to get one to pay attention to something in full before they respond.( By the way, people. I'm giving you a hint as to WHY I make topics now so please don't go all Pharisitical and start condemning. ) I do this to try to get people to respond so that there is something to be learned by all and occasionally correct a stumbling sibling. BUT MAN! I've seen more people call others non-believers here and question whether the person is Spirit filled! Talk about some serious misapplication of Scripture and Godlike principles that the Word speaks of. I mean, since when did Paul EVER question whether the believers were spirit filled in the stumbling congregations he addressed his rebuke to?
And this debate and arguing stuff that I've been seeing here? How passive aggressive is that? People just throwing out verses in a strong arming brow beating manner to have the other in submissive surrender to a misapplied with out any explanation except:
You're an unbeliever.
You're not spiritually mature like I am.
Who is your teacher?
I'm going to pray for you and you should pray for me.
You are a non-repentant sinner.
You don't have the Holy Spirit.
Don't question me because you are a trouble maker.
Don't question things in the Bible because your faith is not strong enough or not really in the right standing.
I'm not going to listen to anything you say because you don't believe the same as me.
Your spirit is unclean.
You are spiritually ignorant.
You think too much.
Don't think at all.
You are not worth listening to.
I don't know about you but all these traits are something that Jesus rebuked the Pharisee for doing in the Gospels. So WHY as Christians, are we all doing this here when our Lord Strictly rebuked those who did such things?
Where is our child like ability to listen to one another and our God given patience to not react and STUDY for OURSELVES as to what God tells us INDIVIDUALLY through HIS SPIRIT so that He can be FULLY MANIFEST in OUR COLLECTIVE UNITY to express HIS OVERABUNDANT RICHES instead of go to someone else other than the Holy Spirit that makes you understand the very words on your Bible?
Again, Why are you here?
If it is to evangelize then this forum isn't the place cause there are only a very few people that read this things so GO and preach Christ in the WORLD. But if we constantly gather in a place where we see EVERYONE FOLLOW THE SAME CHRIST then LET US ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPIRIT OF PEACE THAT IS IN US and actively DISPLAY nothing but LOVE to the one who is CALLED and CALLS upon THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
May the taste of Lord Jesus Christ be the constant taste on your lips other than coffee this morning. And may His EXAMPLE be the sustenance that your stomach is nourished by as you inspect the fruit that you bring to and from your mouth.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 11:16 AM
Hey Sal:
Very good,well done as the Holy Spirit has given you the empowerment to write this.
Yep,i myself have been part of the problem.
I find that i do not want to be on this site as this is really not as personal as i would like it to be.
I also find that there are people that are afraid to understand the Word of YHWH from the veiwpoint of eternity,
meaning from the mind of YHWH.
I do not mind being rebuked and corrected when my understanding is not in line with the Scriptures,
Yet to be called the devil,and have the devil emoticon applied just shows my that these self professed spirit filled people have no idea who the Holy Spirit is,or what He is like.
I do not understand why people just want to be taught by the SO-CALLED clergy,senior pastor,pastor,teachers,
leaders,and those claiming to be of YHWH when the evidence shows other wise.
I will probably leave this site as i would rather find a site where the people actually edify one another,this is the reason i turned off my profile during the week.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 02:42 PM
George. Brother, I understand but I encourage you to stay. The things that these brothers and sisters don't understand the gravity of their error nor to the pay attention to the words they say. But what is good in the sight of the Lord is that their words are a perfectly positioned description of their heart. The most Ironic part of this forum and website that I find interesting, is that once one makes a post in a topic, it is shown on the user's profile. So let these people keep on saying what they do to show who they are in Christ. Just as the Mark is a visible mark, they too, wear it full well on their profiles and will be judged by the very same words they spoke it in the Day when they bow the knee to our Lord Jesus Christ. So you see, as they seek for a "spouse" on this site and displaying how incapable they are at emulating a relationship with Christ with others in the faith by the unkind and unmerciful words they leave to others in topics. Then so too, will they also be judged by the one who views their profiles and reads their heart by the over abundant words they say towards others. They will be Judged now, as they will be judged by our Lord. So, be glad, brother. For what did our Lord say? He said that all in Him will be persecuted for His sake. And if you are persecuted for wanting to impart some of that intimacy upon the brethren by the brethren then they too are doing what the Lord predicted would happen. It is His will. And be glad that you are on the narrow path. Rejoice my brother.
Remember, in the last days they will hate the brethren and seek to follow what ever tickles their ears. Let them preach a gospel of another spirit and the promise of another language because in THAT DAY, they will all confess His name and gnash their teeth.
By the way, brother. One more thing. Don't go. People are reading. I get responses from others who are. You do what you are called to do and keep bringing Christ here. Let the Phorum Pharisee do what they do best. Let them dig a ditch and lead others like them into it. That is their purpose in the Kingdom of God. To help the harvesters grab them and throw them to the fire when the wheat gets separated.
PJ, It would be nice but it seems that you and your siblings have been here for some time. I can see why the forum hasn't grown with new posters. They see the narrow minded in it and leave it faster than they came. Your first remark was a perfect example of what your heart is like and it too, is also attached to your (virtual) person.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 03:12 PM
And yet you are the one who calls others in unbelief, PJ. Who are you and the others here to say who has the right to stay or go knowing that WE ALL KNOW IN PART and are still subject to sin? Do you not sin, PJ?
Do you not curse God when you look at a child of God, who is made in the image of God, and consider that person an unbeliever, of one of a lesser understanding, or not having the Spirit of God, PJ?
Who are you to say? Who made you and you alone the sole authority on such matters? Last I heard we were ALL living stones being built up to make a temple of God. So who are you to judge what stone is not worthy of fitting in the places that God has put?
I love you, brother PJ, but you need to really consider and ask to Lord to give you the patience and love He has with you, so that you can display it towards others you think don't deserve the same.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 03:35 PM
I say you did not receive the Spirit of God but those are first your confession not mine, not one time have I ever implied anyone is any less a Cristian for rejecting the Gift Of God.
The word itself's say's those that do not receive the word of God, dishonor the lord.
Now it is not the greatest wrong to not walk in all that has been provided for the church, the wrong is in saying it is not as declared to be the truth, or again the word of God is not accepted as the truth.
When you or anyone twist other's words as you do it is called lying.
So once again let it me made clear it is not I that have authored the word of Truth, I am a believer of the word of God, and so being a doer of the word, as instructed by the living word of God.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 03:53 PM
PJ Posted:say you did not receive the Spirit of God but those are first your confession not mine, not one time have I ever implied anyone is any less a Cristian for rejecting the Gift Of God.
The word itself's say's those that do not receive the word of God, dishonor the lord.
Now it is not the greatest wrong to not walk in all that has been provided for the church, the wrong is in saying it is not as declared to be the truth, or again the word of God is not accepted as the truth.
When you or anyone twist other's words as you do it is called lying.
So once again let it me made clear it is not I that have authored the word of Truth, I am a believer of the word of God, and so being a doer of the word, as instructed by the living word of God.
GOD SAYS: Mat 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, "Can this be the Son of David?"
Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons."
Mat 12:25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand.
Mat 12:26 And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
Mat 12:27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.
Mat 12:28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Mat 12:29 Or how can someone enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.
Mat 12:30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
Mat 12:31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mat 12:33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad, for the tree is known by its fruit.
Mat 12:34 You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Mat 12:35 The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil.
Mat 12:36 I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,
Mat 12:37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Mat 13:14 Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: "'You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive.
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.'
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear.
Mat 13:17 For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Mat 13:31 He put another parable before them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field.
Mat 13:32 It is the smallest of all seeds, but when it has grown it is larger than all the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches."
Mat 13:33 He told them another parable. "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven that a woman took and hid in three measures of flour, till it was all leavened."
The kingdom of God is about cultivating life, PJ. If you speak nothing but condemning words to fellow brothers then consider your heart, brother.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:02 PM
Angelforlove Posted: @ agapeton Consider your own attitudes and Posts against others here.You are not perfect. You talk against Women teachers.And cut people down. What Spirit are you in, brother!!!
ME: I understand, dear sister. I never said that I was, but I do adhere to the Word since there is a greater condemnation for those to who should take up teaching.
Jas 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
But can you show me where this woman pastor or teacher is in Scripture, sister so that I can repent?
Because I only find this:
1Ti 2:9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1Ti 2:10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness--with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness.
1Ti 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
1Ti 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
So, when I see someone teaching something that does not go in accordnace with the Word of GOd shall I just let this teaching go and make others stumble?
Or shall I follow my Lord and Savior to rebuke, comfort, and admonish the person?
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:25 PM
A man that is a student of the word, would not try and manipulate anyone with a scripture as you just did.
We need to repeat it again The ministry Gifts are subject to first receiving the author of The gifts.
How is it any can think they are greater than the lord Jesus and not need the power of God to live the Christian life, and then place themselves in one of the ministry Gifts.
Eph 4:8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
These Gifts are all in The One Gift: The promise of The father- "The Gift of The Holy Ghost".
This is the source of the anointing that came upon Jesus when he was baptized in water, the anoint comes upon The Believers that receive The baptism of "The Holy Ghost"
