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Seperation of 'church' and state !
Posted : 23 Feb, 2012 07:49 PM

This is for all of the Politically Correct people.







Mat 22:15 Then going, the Pharisees took counsel so as they might trap Him in words.

Mat 22:16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth, and it does not concern You about anyone, for You do not look to the face of men.

Mat 22:17 Then tell us, what do You think? Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

Mat 22:18 But knowing their wickedness, Jesus said, Why do you test Me, hypocrites?

Mat 22:19 Show Me the tribute coin. And they brought a denarius to Him.

Mat 22:20 And He said to them, Whose image and inscription is this?

Mat 22:21 They said to Him, Caesar's. Then He said to them, Then give to Caesar the things of Caesar, and to God the things of God.

Mat 22:22 And hearing, they marveled. And leaving Him, they went away.





Shalom

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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 05:13 AM

I must be very thick this morning or I need more coffee, I don't get what your trying to say. Could you please explain?

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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 12:21 PM

Hey Donna:



Most peole whch claim 'SEPERATION OF CHURCH and STATE'

These same people may not understand what they a crying.



Yeshua in the posted Scriptures says that a person is to give to Ceasar which Ceasar believes belongs to him.

Money is one of these things,so too are the things of this life.



Yet do these same people give to YHWH which belongs to YHWH.



Any so-called 'church which has taken the tax-exempt status is not an Organism,but rather an organization.



They are not rendering to ceasar that which is ceasars.

Also these people do not give to YHWH which is His,meaning they do not proclaim the word of YHWH as it has been written..



The ears of the people are being tickled,while the doctrines of faith fall by the wayside.



Such things a Hom-sexuality,and Le-bianismis are not even touched,for fear of losing the tax exempt status,or being thrown in jail.



The 'chruches' do not let the people know about the political and economic status,for fear of losing tax exemtion,and jail.



If the 'churches' lose people,then there goes the seniour pastors vacation,and his bonus.



These places should forgo the tax status,and proclaim the truth that has been given to us by YHWH.



SO there might be some persecusion,well this is to seperate the wheat from the chaff..





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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 12:52 PM

I am blind to the things of the world obviously. I hear of the sodomy agenda, the holocaust of abortion, and the doctrine of faith all the time in my church. The only vacation my Pastor gets is two weeks a year away from the pulpit and he usually stays home and reads or goes to visit family.

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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 01:09 PM

I believe we as Christians need to remember that Christ Jesus will be Judgeing the Churches as it is written in Revelations...NOT us...He also said we are not to be (troubled)...worried...all these events must happen before His Triumphant Return...:bouncy:...Come quickly LORD...come Quickly...xo

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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 01:37 PM

Yup,

Understand Jude:



Yet how many people are blindly waiting for the rapture,yet they do not want to know what is happening right under their noses..

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Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 02:25 PM

YUP !!!...its really sad that people are so blindly mis-lead by other doctrines...Jesus also said that many would be...



Matthew 13:14-16~

14~ And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 ~ For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 ~ But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.



Mark 4:11-13~

11~ And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12~ That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

13~ And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?



Acts 28:26-28~

26~ Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

27~ For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

28~ Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.



Thats why its so Important to Preach the Gospel...for it is by Hearing the Word that many will come to LORD...



Mark 16:15~ And he (Yahshua/Jesus) said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.



Rom 10:16-18~

16~ But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17~ So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18~ But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.



xo

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Posted : 25 Feb, 2012 03:43 PM

Very interesting point george about rendering to ceaser, I guess the exemption status is ceaser deciding what is and is not his!



As far as churches not proclaiming the truth out of fear , thats hog wash.. Both the churches I attend speak out strongly against hom&%$sexuality and also abortion and all of that stuff, even gay in the military!! and one of the churches I attend when I go home for a visit is a "corporate church" thats not my words but it is what you would consider one.. I am sure they get tax exempt status I dont know! But they dont sweeten things up for anyone he will say in a second if you dont like it yu can hit the door!!! So again george you have a streio type in mind sometimes and its not always true!



and like I said if ceaser is the one who said that the churches dont have to pay taxes then really none of the churches money belongs so cearser

, right? I dont know I am not defending it because I do know that there ae many many people that claim tax exempr aatus that abuse and misuse it ticks me odd



But what you are saying about not saying the truth , thats bologna, I assure you:peace:

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