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More On Romans 11: 25-26 and Dispensationalism
Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 06:34 AM

More On Romans 11: 25-26 and Dispensationalism



Romans Chapter eleven is written in part as a parable, the parable of

the good olive tree. "For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree

which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a

good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural

branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?" Romans 11: 24.



Those who are under the influence of dispensationalism often have a

hard time in understanding the use of metaphor in scripture, in part

because dispensationalism says all scripture is to be seen as literal,

not metaphoric.



"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as

our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him

hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them

of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which

they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other

scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing

ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with

the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." II Peter

3: 15-17



Lets try to figure out what the good olive tree represents, because

this is important for interpreting Paul in Romans 1; 25-26, when he

says "All Israel shall be saved.."



The good olive tree cannot be the "church," because Paul says those

who are the natural branches can be grafted into their own olive tree.

The good olive tree is Israel in some form. The dispensationalists

might try to claim its "All Israel," which at the time of Christ would

include the religion of the Pharisees, or Talmudic Judaism. But Paul

is talking in Romans 11 about salvation, and the elect. When he says

in Romans 11: 17 that non-Jews can be grafted into the good olive

tree, he is talking about their being saved in Christ. There is no

salvation in the religion of the Pharisees, or in Talmudic Judaism.



Since the good olive tree is the source of salvation for Jews who

believe in Christ and also for non-Jews who believe it has to be Jesus

Christ..



"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15: 24



John 10: 16 says "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:

them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall

be one fold, and one shepherd."



Putting Matthew 15: 24 and John 10: 16 together, we can say that

Christ has only one group he calls his own; and there is no "church"

different from the house of Israel. Dispensationalism postulates that

Christ has two different folds, the Jews and the "church."



The "church" is not mentioned in Romans 11.



Christ can be said to have come to the house of Israel to transform it

from the fleshly or physical into the spiritual. In John 3: 1-7

Nicodemus, a Pharisee, talks to Christ who says to this Pharisee

"Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." This

is a part of the transformation of physical Israel into a spiritual

house, that the Jews must be born again in Jesus Christ in order to be

in the spiritual kingdom of God which is within us.



Christ as the physical seed of Abraham in a sense becomes Israel when

he is born in human flesh on earth.



Hosea 11: 1: "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called

my son out of Egypt."



Matthew 2: 15: "And was there until the death of Herod: that it might

be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out

of Egypt have I called my son."



Isaiah 49: 1-7 says "Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people,

from far; The

LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath

he made mention of my name. 2. And he hath made my mouth like a sharp

sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a

polished shaft; in his quiver

hath he hid me; 3. And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in

whom I will

be glorified. 4. Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength

for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and

my work with my God. 5. And now, saith the LORD that formed me from

the womb to be his

servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered,

yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be

my strength. 6. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my

servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved

of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that

thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. 7. Thus saith

the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to

him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant

of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship,

because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and

he shall choose thee."



Exodus 4: 21-23 says "And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to

return into Egypt,

see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in

thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the

people go. 22. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is

my son, even my firstborn: 23. And I say unto thee, Let my son go,

that he may serve me: and if

thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy

firstborn."

Though Christ is God, he is called Israel in Exodus 4: 22. And Isaiah

49: 3 refers back to verse 1, "The Lord hath called me from the womb,"

which is Christ. Hosea 11: 1 also refers to Christ as Israel.



Paul explains in Romans 11: 6 that "For if the firstfruit be holy,

the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches."

Christ is the firstfruit (I Corinthians 15: 23), who is the root of

the good olive tree.



Even though the good olive tree of Romans 11 has to be Christ because

those grafted into it are saved, yet the good olive tree is also some

form of the house of Israel that Christ was sent to transform and

save.



We might say, following Romans 11: 5 where Paul refers to those Jews

who accepted Christ as the remnant, that the good olive tree is also

the Remnant of Israel.



The good olive tree can be seen as the house of Israel reborn in

Christ Jesus as John 3: 1-7 shows.



Paul tells us in Romans 11; 17 that non-Jews are grafted into the good

olive tree, which is Christ as its the root. He does not say that the

"church" is grafted into the good olive tree.



Christ was sent only to the house of Israel. The "church" from the

Greek ekklesia, is only a meeting, assembly or congregation of the

house of Israel reborn in Christ. There is only one fold, or one

group, in Jesus Christ, which is the house of Israel reborn in him.



So, when Paul says in Romans 11: 26 that "All Israel shall be saved"

he is referring to the house of Israel reborn in him, not that those

Jews who reject Christ will someday all be saved. As individuals

Jews, like anyone else, can be saved, but not as a group, for "Behold,

your house is left unto you desolate." Matthew 23: 38.

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More On Romans 11: 25-26 and Dispensationalism
Posted : 24 Feb, 2012 06:47 AM

AMEN Brother Halfback,



Thank you for explaining Romans 11:25-26, clearly so that I could understand it and I agree with you completely on how scripture is to be interpreted metaphorically and not always literally.



:applause:

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