Thread: Lilith In the Esau-Edom Story of Losing the Birthright and Wanting It Back
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Lilith In the Esau-Edom Story of Losing the Birthright and Wanting It Back
Posted : 27 Mar, 2012 03:58 PM
Lilith In the Esau-Edom Story of Losing the Birthright and
Wanting It Back
Isaiah 34: 5, 14-15 says ""For my sword shall be bathed in heaven:
behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my
curse, to judgment.....The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet
with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his
fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a
place of rest. There shall the great owl make her nest, and lay, and
hatch, and gather under her shadow: there shall the vultures also be
gathered, every one with her mate."
In telling us that in Idumea, or Esau-Edom, there are wild beasts, satyrs and screech owls Isaiah can be said to be saying that Idumea is an evil place. But why the association of the demonic Lilith with the screech owl in the land of Esau-Edom?
John Gill in his Bible commentary says of Isaiah 34: 14 that "By the name "Lilith", it appears to be a night bird, which flies and is heard in the night. The Jews call a she demon by this name, which, they say, has a human face, and has wings, and destroys children as soon as born; and therefore the Jews, especially in Germany, write upon the four corners of the bed of a new mother, Adam, Eve, out Lilith; the same with the Lamia of the Romans; and so the Vulgate Latin here renders it."
Idumea is Edom, the land of the Edomites, the descendants of Esau, who
the Lord is said to hate. Romans 9: 13 says "As its is written,
Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." This is quoted from
Malachi 1: 2-3, "I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein
hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet
I loved Jacob,
3. And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste
for the dragons of the wilderness."
Why did God hate Esau?
In Genesis 25: 31-34 there is the story of Esau giving away his
birthright to Jacob: Edom.
31. And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.
32. And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit
shall this birthright do to me?
33. And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and
he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
34. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did
eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his
birthright."
But Esau who became Edom on despising and giving up his birthright
wants to get his birthright back. His descendants want again to be
the chosen of God. Malachi 1: 4 says "Whereas Edom saith, We are
impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus
saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and
they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people
against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever."
But what has the screech owl, or Lilyiyth, to do with Esau-Edom?
On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith they say that "Lilith
(Hebrew: לילית‎; lilit, or lilith) is a character in Jewish mythology,
developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought
to be related to a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian
texts.......In Jewish folklore, from the 8th�10th centuries Alphabet
of Ben Sira onwards, Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created
at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This contrasts with
Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs. The legend was greatly
developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic
midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism.[3] In the 13th Century
writings of Rabbi Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, for example, Lilith left
Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not
return to the Garden of Eden after she mated with archangel Samael.[4]
The resulting Lilith legend is still commonly used as source material
in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy, and
horror."
So, the Lilith of Jewish mythology refused to be subservient to Adam.
Then, on the site http://www.batr.org/wrack/032512.html it is said
that "The contemporary feminist movement found an inspiration in this
image of Lilith as the uncontrollable woman and decisively changed the
image of Lilith from demon to powerful woman. In 1972 Lilly Rivlin
published an article on Lilith for the feminist magazine Ms., with the
aim of recovering her for contemporary women.......As Lilly Rivlin
writes in her "Afterword," "In the late twentieth century,
self-sufficient women, inspired by the women�s movement, have adopted
the Lilith myth as their own. They have transformed her into a female
symbol for autonomy, sexual choice, and control of one�s own destiny."
The site above goes on to say "Rebellion from submission to God�s will
is a primary cause for damnation. Hell on earth is found within the
realm of demonic behavior. Iniquity and unholy conduct flows from the
hubris of false self-importance."
"Note that at the core of feminist independence, is a silent sense of
self-inadequacy. Never admitted, but always demonstrated the "Betty
Friedan" syndrome produces The Slattern Single Mother. "When women
accept that it is normal and healthy to live alone and raise a child,
much less several; they deprive their flesh and blood from any
reasonable chance to grow up with the love and enduring influence of a
father." Lilith is an empty vessel and a perversion. Procreation is
sacred and children are gifts from God. "
So, that feminism which exalts Lilith who refused to be submissive to
Adom, as their heroine
follows the transformational Marxists of the Frankfurt School and
Theodor W. Adono's claim that Christianity and the family cause the
authoritarian personality and fascism. Feminism with Lilith as their
model attacks the family.
Lilith, then, as the screech owl of Isaiah 34; 14 represents a refusal
to submit to the will of God the Father. Esau-Edom in despising his
birthright and in giving it away refused to submit to the will of God.
And following I Corinthians 10: 11, "Now all these things happened
unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon
whom the ends of the world are come," the Esau-Edom story of losing
the birthright and then wanting it back (Malachi 1: 4) can be seen as
an example for our admonition at this point in time. Christian
Zionism, a surrogate for physical Israel which lost its status as a
collective or house as the chosen people on rejecting Jesus Christ, is
in effect helping them to re-enact the Esau-Edom story.
Lilith In the Esau-Edom Story of Losing the Birthright and Wanting It Back
Posted : 28 Mar, 2012 07:25 AM
The Christian Zionists, or dispensationalists, in becoming surrogates for the "chosen
people," the physical Israelites, have given up their identity as "...a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation..." (I Peter 2: 9) to physical Israel.. But physical Israel as a group, as a house, lost its standing through apostasy and by, as a house or collective, rejecting Jesus Christ. "Behold, your house is left unto you as desolate." Matthew 23; 38. And in Romans 11: 20 Paul explains that "...because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith..." "They" are the physical Israelites, the Jews, who did not accept Christ. Paul says, though, in Romans 11: 2-5 that God did not cast off all of physical Israel, and God preserved a remnant of physical Israel as his elect. But physical Israel as a house was left desolate, which does not indicate they remain the chosen people.
The re-enactment of the story of Esau's losing the birthright and his descendants wanting to get it back would seem to be a different topic than the exalting of the demon spirit Lilith to the status of a model for the feminists who have supported Transformational Marxism in rejecting and attacking the family and Christianity - subverting the patriarchal paradigm. Especially in the fifties and sixties and perhaps also in the seventies, the re-enactment of the Esau story by dispensationalism and the feminist use of Lilith in subverting the patriarchal paradigm would appear to be unrelated. But after the Counterculture, after the Frankfurt School of Transformational Marxists began to exert influence on American culture and institutions and after Marxist Benjamin Bloom's Educational Goal Taxonomies influenced American education, and after feminism arrived in the early seventies, Lilith as the spirit of subverting the patriarchal paradigm of the family and of Christianity is very relevant.
Yet Titus 1: 14 warns "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men,that turn from the truth." In light of what Paul says about a return to circumcision as one shadow of the substance which is Christ in the New Covenant, and of the issue in Acts 15: 1-5 about a return to circumcision, Jewish fables could be seen as referring to a return to the shadows of the Old Covenant (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 17). But Jewish fables can also include accepting Jewish mythology (on Lilith) as truth. While the Jewish mythology on Lilith is not scripture or truth, demon spirits do no doubt participate in the attack upon God as the authority figure in Christianity and on the family as under the father figure. Lilith is the screech owl representing Edom or Idumea in Isaiah 34: 14.
In their "long march through the institutions" it was very important to the Transformational Marxists to include the Christian churches, to make the church a dialectic church. So, the subversion of the patriarchal paradigm by non-violent Marxism, supported by the Counterculture, Benjamin Bloom's influence upon education and feminism (Lilith) helped diminish faith in the true Gospel of Christ and made it easier for false doctrines to remain in the churches. Actually, dispensationalism took over many churches before Transformational Marxism and feminism became powerful in the seventies. It was a humanism then which set the stage for the spreading of false doctrines in the churches, especially dispensationalism which was the most popular one.
