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dljrn04

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The Master doesn�t need Mega
Posted : 19 May, 2012 02:19 AM

God does not work through big battalions, He is not interested in numbers; He is interested in purity, in holiness, in vessels fit and meet for the Master�s use. We must concentrate, not on numbers, but upon doctrine, upon regeneration, upon holiness, upon the realisation that this is a holy temple in the Lord, a habitation of God

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The Master doesn�t need Mega
Posted : 19 May, 2012 01:19 PM

There is nothing wrong with large crowds gathering to hear the Gospel. Jesus taught/preached to crowds of over 5,000 men...probably 10-12,000 with women and children. The disciples preached to crowds of 3,000 or more.

It's not the size of the crowd, it's the content of the message. Too many of the mega churches are more interested in the numbers but there are still some great Bible preaching churches that bring in large numbers.

People can't get saved if they don't hear/read the Word.

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The Master doesn�t need Mega
Posted : 19 May, 2012 10:16 PM

I agree with you all the way Teach IB this is how I was saved..watching a Preacher of a Mega Church on TV.

Also watching a few of them on TV has kept me focused in times of trials.:angel:

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The Master doesn�t need Mega
Posted : 21 May, 2012 02:31 AM

I disagree, the larger the church the less oversight there is. Less accountability. Large groups are fine for revival meetings, or evangelism as Christ did in his day, but church is a different story. The church is for teaching, nurturing, admonishing God's people to live in a God glorifying way, to be Holy as he is Holy. That is the point the writer is making.

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Posted : 21 May, 2012 08:57 PM

(Less accountability.)



God is the only one that holds us accountable. So the size of a church has nothing to do with that.





(The church is for teaching, nurturing, admonishing God's people to live in a God glorifying way, to be Holy as he is Holy. That is the point the writer is making. )



So How would more people effect one from learning and being nurtured, admonished??

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Posted : 21 May, 2012 09:55 PM

The New testament church set the example of adding deacons to the team to assist with the church's ministries. I've belonged to all sizes of churches...it's not the size, it's the message and the quality of the staff (pastor, assistant pastors, deacons, teachers, etc.). I currently attend a larger church (we have close to 200 in attendances on Sunday nights). It's one of the best (and largest) churches I've attended (and I've lived throughout the US and visited in many parts of the world.)

The focus on the Bible and what it says. There are programs/activities for cradle to grave...all focused on getting the Gospel message to every creature regardless of status, race, origin, etc.

Churches have a personality...we each need to find the one of the size and quality that God made you for. Ensure the message is right...not that it 'tickles' your ears.

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Posted : 22 May, 2012 06:37 AM

kind women, we are to be accountable to God agreed. God has given authority to pastors, elders, and deacons to feed the flock. God's sheep are to be under their authority this side of glory. Just as he has given authority to fathers and husbands to have headship over the home.



Yes size of churches matters. If you are preparing for a marathon do you go to a gym where there are hundreds of people preparing, and you do more waiting around to exercise. Or do you go where you are going to get the most prepared for the race. Same with the church. I go where there is the most preparation for heaven. God does the sanctifying, but it is my responsibility to do the homework.

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Posted : 22 May, 2012 02:32 PM

Your right size of churches matter...if it is too small it doesn't offer what all the members need. If it is too large without the appropriate staff, it will not be able to manage the members needs (as was the problem when the deacons hip was established in Acts).

I have been members of large and small churches that were ineffective in feeding the flock...although there were some in each that received what they needed at that phase of their Christian life...and our spiritual needs do change over time as we mature in our walk, as we face trials, as our family situation changes.

If I was preparing for a marathon, I may go to a large gym which had an array of trainers that could identify and help my needs.

It doesn't take much to prepare for heaven. The focus should be on getting others into the fold...changing their eternal destination. Church and the ministries of that church should provide opportunities to learn how to reach the lost and then disciple them and then allow them to serve in ministries to reach the lost...the full cycle to follow Jesus command to get the Gospel out.

A small church may not offer opportunities for Christians to use their talents and it may not offer opportunities to reach the spiritual needs of all members/age groups. For me to grow I have to have opportunities to teach/be involved. Just sitting in the pew every service doesn't work...although I went through seasons in my life where I needed that. In a small church someone could get burnt out if someone else wasn't available to step in occasionally.

If a small church is what meets your needs, then that's where you should be. I just ask that you don't stereotype all large churches as ineffective. I know of many that are very effective in reaching the lost, discipling them, and making them productive for the Lord.





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Posted : 22 May, 2012 08:26 PM

I agree that the size doesn't matter of the church. I am a part of a large church now about 500 or more but thats only the time I go there is one service on Sat. and 2 on Sun. So its pretty big compared to my last church of about 100 or less. There are differences. I could learn in both. There are more ways to serve in the larger, my children and I have more people to fellowship with, their are more home Bible studies. opportunities for mission trips etc..

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