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A Challenge for PhillipJohn
Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 01:04 PM

PJ,



Over and over you chide folks for their "Calvinism" or their "Reformation Theology"



So P.J - I am asking you, for the benefit of everyone on the forums, please explain to us what you mean when you say "Reformed Theology" Please be as detailed as you can. It will help everyone gain a better understanding.



What Is Reformed Theology? Is there such thing as a "monolithic" reformed theology? If there is, how does that "Reformed Theology" differ from what the Bible teaches? On what key doctrines, do you believe that reformed theology errs?



Let's look at an example. The Bible teaches that God is Sovereign. As far as I know, all the major theologians from the reformation believed this to be true.



P.J., Do you believe that God is Sovereign? If so, does that mean that you believe in "reformed theology" ? If not, why not?

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 01:15 PM

P.J., Do you believe that God is Sovereign? If so, does that mean that you believe in "reformed theology" ? If not, why not?



I do not believe in reformation theology because the lord is sovereign, but i also know he does not communicate in any such manner as some does his sovereignty.



Correction Bob there is no chiding Calvinist, those are your words.



I like the father hate all unbelief, pride is not a Godly trait.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 01:32 PM

All of my questions still stand unanswered. P.J., we know that you do not believe in "reformation theology". However, we have no clue what you mean when you refer to "reformation theology"



So my challenge to you still remains from above. You are creating much confusion by not explaining what you mean.



Chide means: scold - rebuke, reprove - upbraid - reprehend - reproach.



P.J you chide folks constantly for believing in reformed theology or for being "Calvinist"



I and others will await your answers.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 01:43 PM

AKA....Bob I don't know what any of the stuff in your post means. I just know I'm not reformed so I must speak out against it, even though my posts prove out ignorant I am on the subject. I say that I believe God is sovereign and then I take it right back because God is sovereign, only to the point I allow Him to be. Really, if you take my belief to it's natural conclusion, God has no sovereignty at all. I am okay with that and I don't mind that I'm not in line with scripture as long as I get to keep my freedom. You see Bob, at the end of the day...Although I may profess that it's about Christ, it's really all about me. The pastors I listen to teach me that God can only act if I allow him to. Bob, I'm really the god of this world - PJ

P.S. - If you want to know some of my beliefs, here is a good overview of the "pastors" I listen to....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ks3EdMMT48&feature=related



Ryan - That's interesting PJ, because that's sort of what I expected you to say all along. I'm glad you finally decided to admit it to us. It makes it easier to ignore you now. Those are some interesting "pastors" indeed. Here are a couple of pastors I listen to for comparison....You tell me which pastors are more God-glorifying...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6k2lMPR67w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNUQduNiII

P.S. - These videos aren't on the topic of reformation theology

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 01:56 PM

You say you are not reformation theology, but no man can walk in the light and agree with darkness.



Jesus would not agree with as to not being Calvinist, you either agree or you don't, and everything you ever said always agreed with that theology.



Without Faith no man can please God.



Btw you have proven you will not accept the truth so there is no more to say.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 02:02 PM

PJ,



All I have asked you to do is to provide some detailed explanations of the terms that you use so often in these threads.



If you can not do so, then I would suggest that you stop throwing those terms around.



If you are refusing to do so, then I ask you this question: Why when someone comes to you asking bread, do you give them a stone?

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 02:33 PM

Bob you are the one throwing around stones.



I serve up only the bread.



You see my Jesus knows every word of Jn 3:16 is true.



My Jesus knows all are able to Call.



The theory's know are able are all stones of death.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 03:52 PM

This is going to be interesting. I'm still waiting on brother PJ to prove his point on my questions to Christians topic.





I wonder what he would do when he finds out that what he is defending is a "Reformed" or "Calvinist" belief that was taken from the RCC and repackaged under a new brand of "ordained ministry." lol

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 04:00 PM

This is going to be interesting. I'm still waiting on brother PJ to prove his point on my questions to Christians topic.











I wonder what he would do when he finds out that what he is defending is a "Reformed" or "Calvinist" belief that was taken from the RCC and repackaged under a new brand of "ordained ministry." lol





I can answer that very simple Agapeton you are trying to pass off something not true.



You see it is not hard.



The doctrine opposes simple bible truth, it deny's the very truthfulness of the word of God.



No word No faith.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 04:15 PM

The truth can be researched, brother PJ.







So can your statements.





And one of them coincides with the Scriptures.

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2012 04:24 PM

Scripture must be known, it is not known by searching it is known by obeying scripture.



There is no dilemma here go ahead with your surprise, The answer is in the word.



We do not put our meaning to scripture. we believe scripture with the heart.

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