Author Thread: I Don't Want Free Will
dljrn04

View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 06:57 AM

"I frankly confess that, for myself, even if it could be, I should not want "free-will" to be given me, nor anything to be left in my own hands to enable me to endeavour after salvation; not merely because in face of so many dangers, and adversities and assaults of devils, I could not stand my ground ; but because even were there no dangers. I should still be forced to labour with no guarantee of success.� But now that God has taken my salvation out of the control of my own will, and put it under the control of His, and promised to save me, not according to my working or running, but according to His own grace and mercy, I have the comfortable certainty that He is faithful and will not lie to me, and that He is also great and powerful, so that no devils or opposition can break Him or pluck me from Him. Furthermore, I have the comfortable certainty that I please God, not by reason of the merit of my works, but by reason of His merciful favour promised to me; so that, if I work too little, or badly, He does not impute it to me, but with fatherly compassion pardons me and makes me better. This is the glorying of all the saints in their God." - Martin Luther, The Bondage of the Will (Grand Rapids: Revell, 1957), 313-314.

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 11:18 AM

A most excellent citation from a most excellent letter.



ALL Glory to God.

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 11:22 AM

Donna,



Are you and I Lutherans now? :ROFL:

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 02:04 PM

You have it>!!



It is not a matter of want it, you are instructed to renew it to the word of God.

Post Reply

dljrn04

View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 05:03 PM

get over yourself pj i has nothing to do with the created ones, it has everything to do with the creator.

Post Reply

dljrn04

View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 05:04 PM

:ROFL:





maybe Bob

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 06:22 PM

We have free will if you want it or not.



Walking in the will of God in a choice.



Romans 10:9,10

Is a Conditoned upon our Faith in Jesus.

Post Reply

teach_ib

View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 07:46 PM

Philippians 4:13�I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

**** It's not about me being able to do anything through my own strength...it's about putting my faith and trust in God to help me.

Philippians 3:8�Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,�

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Galatians 2:16�Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.�

18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.�

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.�

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.�

21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 07:50 PM

it is God [not man] which works in you BOTH TO WILL [God causes us �to will�] and TO DO [God causes us �to do�] of His good pleasure" to bring about His intentions (Phil. 2:13).

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 07:52 PM

Amen - thank you brother Mike.

Post Reply



View Profile
History
I Don't Want Free Will
Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 07:53 PM

"**** It's not about me being able to do anything through my own strength...it's about putting my faith and trust in God to help me."

You can't have it both ways. You know it sounds right to say it's not about your strength....Then you say something like, "It's about putting my faith and trust in God"....Sorry but that is through your strength in your belief.

Post Reply

Page : 1 2 3 4 5