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Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic
Posted : 21 Aug, 2012 11:26 AM

Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic



"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2. And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3. But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5. For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." Genesis 3: 1-7



Satan, the first facilitator, lured Eve into a dialogue, and through the dialectic process fixed Eve's obedience to God, and overthrew the absolute patriarchal authority of God. The human father in the family is a reflection of God's patriarchal authority, and the father is told to love his wife and children.



This is a topic that is not easily understood by many Americans, and it is not understood by people in the American churches as being the problem it is. Many of them believe that Marxism is limited to the political and economic areas and is not relevant to culture, psychology, the media and religion. But Transformational Marxism is not bolshevism. In fact, many of the change agents leading the infiltration of American culture by Transformational Marxism posed as psychologists and psychiatrists, and there were other American psychologists, not part of the German Frankfurt School, who were allied with the Frankfurters in their movement to change American culture and religion. A part of this infiltation has been the use of the Hegelian-Marxist dialectic.



The Frankfurt School Marxists mixed Marx with Freud, and then later in America they mixed personality-social psychology, clinical psychology, the Group Dynamics movement, and the encounter group movement with Marxist theory. In the process of mixing Marx with psychology, the American psychologist and psychiatrist allies of the Frankfurters perfected the Hegelian-Marxist dialectic as an attitude and belief changing procedure and adapted it to small groups, though it is also used on large number of people by the media and by politicians. And their Hegelian-Marxist dialectic attitude change procedure was used by the Rick Warren people in the Purpose Driven Church, in some mega churches and the movement emphasizing church growth over being true to the Gospel. But the use of the dialectic in promoting and in defending man's leaning to his own understanding is not limited to the church growth movement and to the huge churches.



Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), along with Georg Lukacs, was the founder

of cultural Marxism. Gramsci pioneered the concept of cultural

hegemony as a means of changing a society into a collectivist Marxist

state. Gramsci was from Italy while Lukacs was from Hungary.



Gramsci taught that capitalism in the West kept its control not only

by violence and economic power, but also by culture. The bourgeoisie

had created a hegemonic or dominant culture, which kept capitalism in

power. The Marxist revolution had to first change the culture to take

over capitalist society.



And Gramsci believed that Marxism must first establish its cultural

dominance in society and then when that dominance was in place the

people would willingly obey the Marxist political authorities. He saw

Marxist intellectuals as directors (later called "facilitators" in the

U.S.) who created Marxist cultural dominance by means of ideological

institutions which are education, the media, and religion.



The intellectuals of the German Frankfurt School operated from major American universities. Theodore W. Adorno, who posed as a personality-social psychologist, was lodged in the University of California at Berkeley and at first Herbert Marcuse was at Brandeis University, and later at the University of California at San Diego. Marcuse was more of a sociologist and philosopher than a psychologist.



Antonio Gramsci was an incremental, or slow step by step

revolutionary rather than an advocate of quick and violent takeover of

a government. Gramsci talked about the "long march through the

institutions" to take over Western society. This slower, step by

step takeover of the culture of the West is exactly what has been

happening since the fifties and sixties.



Georg Luk�cs (1885-1971) was one of the two founders of Western

Marxism, the ideology that departed from the Marxist orthodoxy of the

old Soviet Union. His Transformational Marxism advocated a slower

takeover of Western Europe and the United States by changing the

culture. As such, Transformational Marxism is not Bolshevism - of

Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin - which sought to take over capitalist

nations by overthrowing national governments and then purging out

those who opposed the Bolshevist regime by shooting them.



On http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid...frankfurt.html and

Georg Luk�cs and "Aufhebung der Kultur," Abolishment of Culture, they

say "Lukacs identified that any political movement capable of bringing

Bolshevism to the West would have to be, in his words, "demonic"; it

would have to "possess the religious power which is capable of filling

the entire soul; a power that characterized primitive Christianity."



They go on to say that "What differentiated the West from Russia,

Lukacs identified, was a

Judeo-Christian cultural matrix which emphasized exactly the

uniqueness and sacredness of the individual which Lukacs abjured. At

its core, the dominant Western ideology maintained that the

individual, through the exercise of his or her reason, could discern

the Divine Will in an unmediated relationship. What was worse, from

Lukacs' standpoint: this reasonable relationship necessarily implied

that the individual could and should change the physical universe in

pursuit of the Good; that Man should have dominion over Nature, as

stated in the Biblical injunction in Genesis. The problem was, that as

long as the individual had the belief�or even the hope of the

belief�that his or her divine spark of reason could solve the problems

facing society, then that society would never reach the state of

hopelessness and alienation which Lukacs recognized as the necessary

prerequisite for socialist revolution."



From its beginning, the leaders of Transformational Marxism knew they

could be more effective if they concealed the Marxist nature of their

work, and instead led the society of the West out of the protestant

individual based cultural dominance with its morality, individual

freedom, self-reliance and relationship to Jesus Christ.



"In 1919, Lukacs was the Hungarian Minister of Culture of the

government of the short-lived Hungarian Soviet Republic ."

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid...frankfurt.html



When Lukacs became Deputy Commissar for Culture in the Bolshevik

government in Hungary, one of Lukacs�s first acts was to introduce sex

education into Hungary�s public schools. Lukacs wanted to create a

culture in which sex outside of marriage was accepted, to help destroy

the West's Christian based sexual morality, and eventually to do away

with the Western, protestant individual based culture itself.



In 1922, inspired in part by Lukacs, a group of German Marxists

established a think tank at Frankfurt University in Germany called the

Institute for Social Research. This institute, soon known simply as

the Frankfurt School, would become the center of cultural Marxism.



The Frankfurters wanted to change the economic focus of traditional

Marxism to a cultural focus. To do this they first turned to Sigmund

Freud. Later in the United States, Theodor W. Adorno pretended to be

a personality-social psychologist and researcher using paper and

pencil questionnaires. Soon a number of 20th century change agents,

including some psychologists and psychiatrists - Abraham H. Maslow,

Carl R. Rogers, the Frankfurter Eric Fromm, Wilhelm Reich on the

fringes of the Frankfurters, Norman O. Brown, Irvin D. Yalom and

Herbert Marcuse, a Frankfurter Marxist sociologist, all began to lead

Gramsci's long march through the institutions of America.



How would Transformational Marxism began to take over our

institutions? The answer by the leaders of Transformational Marxism

was the counterculture of the sixties and seventies which was to begin

the process of takeover of the American culture. The counterculture

established the drug movement, sexual rebellion against Christian

sexual morality, plus feminism, the Black movement, as well as the

homosexual and lesbian movements. Lesbianism became politically and

sexually correct in the major universities soon after the seventies.

The major universities became change agents, with their politically

correct feminism, gay rights, lesbianism, homosexuality, self psychology, and

Marxist sociological ideology, all within cultural Marxism. Pornography, as on the Internet, is allied with all this because it too attacks Christianity and the family.



The Baby Boomer generation became the target of the Frankfurt School's

intellectuals, the first American generation to become influenced by the new

collectivist cultural dominance created by Transformational Marxism.



American generations born before the Baby Boomers began in 1946 tended

to follow a culture of protestant based individualism, a culture that

valued individual freedom, individual moral responsibility and

self-reliance. The transformation of American individual-based culure

derived from the protestant Reformation is not yet complete, but its

well along in its "long march through the institutions."



And the stealth

Marxist intellectuals knew that they had to weaken American Chfristianity

and in the language of metaphor of the Bible, to deprive the salt of its savour.

Matthew 5: 13 says "Ye are the salt of he earth: but if the salt have lost its savour wherewith shall it be

salted. It is hencedforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and to be trodden under

foot of men."



The leader of the Transformational Marxists, Theodor W. Adorno, in his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality,

talked a great deal about diminishing and even destroying the influence of Christianity, along with the family, in

the West.



The Greek word from which "savour" is translated is moranthe, a form of moros, dull of stupid. In other

words, Matthew 5: 13, in using the metaphor of Christian moral and spiritual leadership of people as "salt" is really talking about Christianity's loss of cognitive competence, but its a spiritual competence, from having something of the mind of Christ, and having some part of His light to give to others who can accept it. The dialectic process makes people dumber, and when the Christian churches become the target of the stealth Marxist dialectic,

the Christians become dumbed down to some extent. The Christians under the dialectic lose their light

from Christ, but this is all part of the falling away of II Thessalonians 2: 3 and the leavening of the churches of Luke 13: 21.

Its not only the dialectic that has caused a loss of the light, but also the failure of the zeal for the truth which has been going on for many decades.

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Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic
Posted : 21 Aug, 2012 04:04 PM

Has it dawned on you that dialectics is Satan's wisdom, and it was designed to be a contrasting mechanism for Abba YaHUaH's (YHUH) eternal dichotomy?



Is this not present in the wisdom of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil?



This is why there are Two Trees in the Garden, representing Two fruits: Temporal Dialectics and Eternal Dichotomies.



The Old Testament Hebrew word for "proverbs" is "mashal". It is the same word that is used in the Hebrew for "parable". It is very interesting that Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) granted to Shlomo the understanding of parables and dialectical thinking, and here comes the Messiah teaching with parables, and the scripture stating that He did not teach without one.



Shalom!

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Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic
Posted : 21 Aug, 2012 07:13 PM

The dialectic tries to diminish or overcome the absolute truth and absolute morality of "It is written." It wants everything to be a matter of opinion, not of absolutes.



"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."

Proverbs 3: 5-6



The dialectic comes out of man leaning to his own understanding, and not in acknowledging God.



"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." I John 2: 15-16



Transformational Marxism and its use of several forms of psychology knows only the flesh of man, and that includes man's pride, and psycholgized Transformational Marxism exalts man's flesh above man created as a living soul.



One cannot have a zeal for the truth of scripture if he has a dialectic mind from Satan by way of psychologized Transformational Marxism.



Man in his flesh wants relationship. God offers a relationship to man also but man must stay in a position of faith before God for that relationship to exist. Man wanting a relationship with something like a congregation then places that relationship above position, which is belief in absolute truths of scripture and absolute morals, though Christ died so we can be forgiven for sins.

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Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic
Posted : 22 Aug, 2012 12:24 PM

The dialectic tries to diminish or overcome the absolute truth and absolute morality of "It is written." It wants everything to be a matter of opinion, not of absolutes.



:applause:....xo

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Genesis 3:1-7 and the Origins of the Contemporary Dialectic
Posted : 22 Aug, 2012 02:57 PM

Guess you met your match Halfback, only wrong gender, :ROFL:



Yah bless you all, bit over my head, good to see you sister Jude, and welcome to the forum, Mr. N.

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