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Here the scripture clearly teaches that no true believer is a Christian, and that the respect for the diciplines of the law has not been negated by faith.
Posted : 17 Sep, 2012 09:11 AM

JUDAISM is a false religion ~ which is why all of the Prophets and Apostles were slaughtered by Satan's seed concealing themselves behind this fictional title.



CHRISTIANITY is a false religion ~ which is why it began out of ancient paganism, and still practices the cult practices of "Christmas", "Easter", to list a few, and the practice of declaring the dead to be saints, when the Apostle Paul, was clearly speaking to the saints which were ALIVE in Rome:



"To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." [Romi'im/Romans 1:7]



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True believers, true bachiyr ~ eklektos, by the Wisdom of Elohim, do comprehend having been made 'wise', that as one may not comprehend anything in life without a dichotomous contrasting mechanism, and so it is that the law was balanced by the testimony, and so the Two bacame ONE:



"TO THE LAW AND TO THE TESTIMONY, IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO THIS WORD, IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM". [Isaiah 8:20]



Why do you yet insist in calling the seed of Abraham by the exonym "Christian"? Aren't you aware that it was a derogatory title used of the heathen, first in Acts 11:26, and than again in Acts 26:28, and then again as the brethren approached the apostle Peter, telling him that they were ashamed to be "called by that name", and that while Peter addresses that "no man is to be ashamed if he suffers/is persecuted while being called that name", he nonetheless establishes, that it is an exonym, not the endonyms of "bachiyr", "eklektos", "sheep", "wheat", et cetera?:



"Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf." [I Petros/Peter 4:16]



"IF ANY MAN SUFFER AS A CHRISTIAN"..?



This is clearly teaching that true believers, who "suffer as a Christian", are not Christian!



Why would Peter state that we are "NOT TO BE ASHAMED" to be called by this exonym, if we were/are to be called "Christian(s)"..?



We, which are believers, believe only in that which is established in the sripture:



"Meditate upon these things; give thyself WHOLLY to them; that thy profiting may appear to all." [I Timotios/Timothy 4:15]



This is why Paul, although he was called "a Christian" by Agrippa, returns to the true name, or the endonym of the redeemed that were/are to be drawn out of the goy, "elect":



"I ENDURE ALL THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF THE ELECT [not Christian], THAT THEY ALSO MAY OBTAIN THE SALVATION WHICH IS IN MASHIACH YAHUSHA, WITH ETERNAL GLORY!" [I Timotios/Timothy 2:10]



Where is there any "ETERNAL GLORY" in either Judaism, which has no end, and cannot comprehend the prophecies of the wheat, or in Christianity, which asks men, "DO YOU WANT TO GET SAVED?"



How does either of these fictions, these apostate religions, affirm the dichotomous wisdom of two found in the New and Old Covenants?



THEY DON'T!~



There is no such title as "Christian", ever being the basis of the New Covenant/religion, as there was no title as "Jew", ever to be of the Old Covenant/religion, and this is clearly established in the scripture:



"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." [Galatea/Galatians 3:28]



Here Paul teaches that "there is neither Jew or Greek" in Mashiach, and yet you insist on teaching that there is?



Now, for the assault on the integrity of the Torah. It would take one greater than He, which did author the Torah, to weaken it, or do away with it.



Satan tried to do it, through his seed, in the Old Testament period, and is now trying to do it yet again, in this New Testament period. But pay close attention to the FACT, that they are NOW COMBINED TOGETHER, and know that the Law has not been done away with, it has just been established that "it" is not the means of salvation ~ that was done before time began!



Should anyone to even for one minute assert that the authority of the Torah has been done away with somhow through faith, is a fool, he/se knows not the scripture, and is an abomination unto Elohim:



"He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer [shall be] abomination." [Mashal/Proverbs 28:29]



This is why Yahusha/Jesus CLEARLY SAID that He did not come to do away with the law. The law is to be obeyed, because it is a wise path, not as a means of salvation. We, which are of the chosen seed, were so decreed to be His anointed ones, before time, not because we "wanted to get saved":



"THEN SHALL THE KING SAY TO THEM ON HIS RIGHT HAND, 'COME YE BLESSED OF MY ABBA, INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU [bachiyr/eklektos ~ chosen]BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD!" [Mattityahu/Matthew 25:34]



It is wonderful that the sheep hear the Voice of Yahusha, and that they cannot be deceived, nor will they ever follow another ~



Let this New Testament scripture forever silence those who hate the Torah, and teach that the Law has been done away with:



"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." [Romi'im/Romans 3:31]





Shalom!

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Here the scripture clearly teaches that no true believer is a Christian, and that the respect for the diciplines of the law has not been negated by faith.
Posted : 17 Sep, 2012 09:34 AM

I see you have no problem starting new threads but a big problem when it comes to answering objections in your threads.

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Here the scripture clearly teaches that no true believer is a Christian, and that the respect for the diciplines of the law has not been negated by faith.
Posted : 17 Sep, 2012 01:39 PM

Here is what the Scripture ACTUALLY says and what it teaches is plain.



Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.



This was a label that was given to them that showed the unity between the Jews and the Gentiles in the faith of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. i.e. they were now no longer referred to separately but under one name - CHRISTIANS.



Acts: 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.



We see hear that the Apostle Paul by his speech to King Agrippa had almost persuaded him to become a CHRISTIAN. Notice what Paul says, I would to God that not only you (Agrippa) but also ALL that hear me today were altogether such as he was - A CHRISTIAN. (albeit not in bonds but rather free)



And here is what an expensive dictionary tells us a Christian is:

Christian: 1. A person who has received Christian baptism or is a believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

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Here the scripture clearly teaches that no true believer is a Christian, and that the respect for the diciplines of the law has not been negated by faith.
Posted : 17 Sep, 2012 10:06 PM

Ironically the website you promote calls themselves Christians, so you must be directing us to learn from people who are not true believers. Why would you do that to us?

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