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Posted : 1 Dec, 2012 02:16 AM

The Bible warns us that in the last days in which we live there will be many false Christs�those who claim to be Christ but who are imposters. Jesus said, �Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ; and shall deceive many.� (Matt. 24:4-5). We who profess to be Christians must take heed. We must be very careful that we are not deceived. Our calling is to trust, love, and follow the true Christ and Him only. We may have nothing to do with the false Christs who are so numerous in our day.



We know about the Christ of the cults and other religions. He is a good man, a prophet, the first creation of God, a great spirit, a divine idea, or even a god himself. But he is not true and eternal God. He receives his existence from another who is greater than he. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ.



We know about the Christ of Roman Catholicism. They profess that He is true God. He suffered and died for the forgiveness of sin. He arose again, ascended into heaven, and is coming again. But he is not a complete Savior. The Christ of the Roman Catholics can not save sinners without their own good works and the intercession of priests. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ.



There is, however, another false Christ who is much more dangerous than the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism. He has deceived people for many years and he continues to deceive millions. This Christ is so dangerous that, if it were not impossible, he would deceive the very elect (Matt. 24:24). He is the Christ of Arminianism.



This false Christ is extremely dangerous because in many ways he appears to be the True Christ. They say that he is true God, equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. They say that he died on the cross to save sinners. They even say that he saves by his grace alone, without the work of man. This Christ will have nothing to do with the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism.



But watch out! Be warned! The Christ of Arminianism is not the Christ of the Bible. Do not be fooled!



1. The Christ of Arminianism � loves every individual person in the world and sincerely desires their salvation.



The Christ of the Bible � earnestly loves and desires the salvation of only those whom God has unconditionally chosen to salvation. (Ps. 5:5, Ps. 7:11, Ps. 11:5, Matt. 11:27, John 17:9-10, Acts 2:47, Acts 13:48, Rom. 9:10-13, Rom. 9:21-24, Eph. 1:3-4)



2. The Christ of Arminianism � offers salvation to every sinner and does all in his power to bring them to salvation. His offer and work are often frustrated, for many refuse to come.



The Christ of the Bible � effectually calls to Himself only the elect and sovereignly brings them to salvation. Not one of them will be lost. (Isa. 55:11, John 5:21, John 6:37-40, John 10:25-30, John 17:2, Phil. 2:13)



3. The Christ of Arminianism � can not regenerate and save a sinner who does not first choose Christ with his own �free will.� All men have a �free will� by which they can either accept or reject Christ. That �free will� may not be violated by Christ.



The Christ of the Bible � sovereignly regenerates the elect sinner apart from his choice, for without regeneration the spiritually dead sinner can not choose Christ. Faith is not man�s contribution to salvation but the gift of Christ which He sovereignly imparts in regeneration. (John 3:3, John 6:44 & 65, John 15:16, Acts 11:18, Rom. 9:16, Eph. 2:1,Eph. 2:8-10, Phil. 1:29, Hebr. 12:2)



4. The Christ of Arminianism � died on the cross for every individual person and thereby made it possible for every person to be saved. His death, apart from the choice of man, was not able to actually save anyone for many for whom he died are lost.



The Christ of the Bible � died for only God�s elect people and thereby actually obtained salvation for all those for whom He died. His death was a substitutionary satisfaction which actually took away the guilt of His chosen people. (Luke 19:10, John 10:14-15 & 26, Acts 20:28, Rom. 5:10, Eph. 5:25, Hebr. 9:12, I Peter 3:18)



5. The Christ of Arminianism � loses many whom he has �saved� because they do not continue in faith. Even if he does give them �eternal security,� as some say, that security is not based upon his will or work but the choice which the sinner made when he accepted Christ.



The Christ of the Bible � preserves His chosen people so that they can not lose their salvation but persevere in the faith to the very end. He preserves them by the sovereign electing will of God, the power of His death, and the mighty working of His Spirit. (John 5:24, John 10:26-29, Rom. 8:29-30, Rom. 8:35-39, I Peter 1:2-5, Jude 24-25)



As you can see, although the Christ of Arminianism and the Christ of the Bible may at first seem to be the same, they are very different. One is a false Christ. The other is the true Christ. One is weak and helpless. He bows before the sovereign �free will� of man. The other is the reigning Lord Who wills what He pleases and sovereignly accomplishes all that He wills.



If you believe and serve the Christ of Arminianism, you must recognize the fact that you do not serve the Christ of the Bible. You have been deceived! Study the Scriptures and learn of the True Christ. Pray for grace to repent and trust Christ as your sovereign Savior.



Rev. Steven Houck

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 04:59 AM

What you write here is really senseless to me because in your view of things a individual has no choice but to be saved and those who are lost have no chioce but be lost.



If this is so then you telling people who have no choice but be lost to some how be different in their thinking is really senseless, is it not?



Its like telling someone who is drowning you are drowning. What good can that do?



So for only the few who are chosen by God that leaves no hope for the rest.



If one only preachs out of obedience to tell those who have no choice that they are lost the preaching is in vain.

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 05:38 AM

10Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.





Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.







The seed is the word of God. 12Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. 14And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. 15But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.





All of Jesus words up till here.







21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:21



30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Acts 16:31



9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Romans 10:9





13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Romans 10:13



I end with that note by Paul���



Speaks for its self.....Glory to God in the highest and the Christ of salvation to all who believe on Him......

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 05:44 AM

Oh by the way I am not Arminian. I am Christian. I never studied any of his writing whoever he is. I only ever studied Christ.



Do not ever allow another place a title on you.



I think those who call then selves calvinist are following after a man and not Christ. The same who say they are Arminian are following after a man and not Christ.



This goes for Joel Osteen, Joe foch, Chuck smith, Joice myer, Billy gram, or any teacher.

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 02:30 PM

LTM shared ~ Its like telling someone who is drowning you are drowning. What good can that do?



*** I agree...These kinds of Posts are just a way of telling people that they are not Saved because they are not believing the Gospel of Calvin...:rolleyes:...xo

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 03:30 PM

Like typical Jude, always making it about a man...She just doesn't get it

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 03:47 PM

"The Christ of Arminianism" ???



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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 05:06 PM

Try to follow. If we look at your extensive history here...you have a LONG history of saying that those who oppose you follow man. Those who oppose you do not say the same of you.

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 08:33 PM

you dont get it...I dont get it .... they dont get it..... My dog doesnt get it.......the post man doesnt get it.........My dry cleaner doesnt get it........The president doesent get it.......



Does anyone see a pattern?



What a a beautiful reality that God gives the keys to the Kingdom of God to those who are so helpless and clueless.



You just have to laugh.......

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2012 11:29 PM

Nice try....if someone doesn't get it then there is nothing wrong with me pointing it out. You think making a joke out of it is some sort of refutation? It's not.

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 11:30 AM

Ya...I see a pattern...:laugh:...



GUD...Ryan...and Donna too...you just dont get it !!!...I dont know any other way to say this except say it as Simply as Possible...



There are some people here...some Arminians and some Not that just dont Buy the Reformer "Tulip" Doctrine...and no amount of trying to Convience them (which is the HolySpirits work not ours) is going to get them to Convert to it...The sooner some folks here Except that then the sooner we can All carry on with Fellowship in Christ Jesus...xo

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