Author	Thread: A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith
Admin	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 24 Dec, 2012 10:00 PM ".....Scripture also teaches�that people may possess a faith which is one of the Holy Spirit, and yet which is a�non-saving�one. This faith which we now allude to has two ingredients which neither education nor self-effort can produce: spiritual light and a Divine power moving the mind to assent. ... Saving faith has Christ for its object; so has a non-saving faith (John 2:23, 24). Saving faith is wrought by the Holy Spirit; so is a non-saving faith (Heb. 6:4)." [Studies on Saving Faith by A.W. Pink] _______________ According to A.W. Pink a unregenerate person may have faith, even a faith given by the Holy Spirit. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 02:04 AM And unregenerate person may also have grace which is given by the Holy Spirit. It's not a grace will ultimately lead to his/her salvation though. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 04:49 AM and you say i put restrictions on a sovereign God??????? What exactly are you doing here? God does what he wills, his Spirit blows where it wills. Who is the clay to question how God works?????? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 06:57 AM The orthodox postion of Calvinism is even the non-elect are given grace in they are even allowed a life on this planet, however A.W. Pink is speaking of a entirely different matter. He clearly states a person may have Faith given by the Holy Spirit yet not be regenerate. This is in direct opposition to what Dljrn04 & Graceundeserved have been preaching; only a regenerate person can have Faith. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 11:34 AM Really, I have never made such a statement. No wonder you keep twisting and adding to Gods word. You do it to mine to. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 11:34 AM Really, I have never made such a statement. No wonder you keep twisting and adding to Gods word. You do it to mine to. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 12:18 PM No it's not, further proof that you are confused Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 04:01 PM Then please correct and enlighten this poor ignorant confused twister of words of the true orthodox position Calvinism takes on faith & regeneration : ) Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 25 Dec, 2012 06:41 PM First explain why what you have presented is indeed opposite of the Calvinist view. You always boast in your understanding of it. You even start threads stating as much. How did you come to come to the conclusion you have in this thread? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:27 AM Faith in the living God and his Son Jesus Christ is always the result of the new birth, and can never exist except in the regenerate. Whoever has faith is a saved man. Charles Spurgeon from the sermon �Faith and Regeneration� --------- Are you sure you are Calvinists??? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 01:00 AM Pink and Spurgeon are speaking of different types of faith. I never claimed to be a Calvinist. Furthermore, Spurgeon doesn't speak for everyone and neither does Pink. Shall we start quoting people for you? Post Reply

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